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Mahony blesses L.A.'s rally [pro-(illegal)immigration rally]
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 01, 2010 | Robert Faturechi

Posted on 05/02/2010 8:45:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Cardinal Roger Mahony was smiling widely Saturday as he navigated the crush of immigrant rights supporters rallying in downtown Los Angeles, enlivened by the throngs of adoring supporters who kissed his hand and asked to be blessed.

"Thank you, Arizona," he said, to no one in particular. "Thank you, Arizona."

For the cardinal, the thank-you was two-pronged.

Mahony compared Arizona to Nazi Germany after the state passed a strict new law that allows police to check the legal status of anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant.

But Mahony said the Arizona legislation might turn out to be a net positive, hastening the passage of federal immigration reform. It also gives the Catholic church a welcome break from criticism of its handling of sexual abuse allegations against priests.

"When we have internal problems, we have to deal with them, but this allows us to continue our outreach," Mahony said. "This is an important part of moving on."

>----SNIP----<

Mahony called the Arizona legislation unconstitutional. He also challenged Gov. Jan Brewer to release a set of clear criteria defining what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" that an individual might be undocumented.

"They can't," he said. "Because you'd come up with ‘brown skin, black hair and listens to ranchera music.' "

Midway to City Hall, the cardinal crossed paths with actor and devout Catholic Martin Sheen.

"Martin Sheen, come join the Cardinal," one of Mahony's handlers shouted.

"No, no. I'm gonna go this way" the actor called back apologetically.

Before rejoining with the marchers at the head of the procession, Mahony greeted attendees under the shade of a check-cashing outlet on Broadway. He placed his palm on the foreheads of followers, blessing them and offering words of support in Spanish.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: freformed; immigration; martinsheen; prudentialstatement
Mahony compared Arizona to Nazi Germany after the state passed a strict new law that allows police to check the legal status of anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant.

But Mahony said the Arizona legislation might turn out to be a net positive, hastening the passage of federal immigration reform. It also gives the Catholic church a welcome break from criticism of its handling of sexual abuse allegations against priests.

1 posted on 05/02/2010 8:45:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

And he Blesss Pedophiles too Finishes with amen and Happy Hunting


2 posted on 05/02/2010 8:47:06 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Alex Murphy

Why wouldn’t he? He should be in jail himself, shuffling around and hiding pedophile priests for almost 40 years.


3 posted on 05/02/2010 8:50:42 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Pandering to illegals just as some Catholic priests pandered to the Mafia.


4 posted on 05/02/2010 8:52:49 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Alex Murphy

We need a good African Pope who won’t tolerate people like him. Bring back ex-communication, shut off all of his funds, ban him from church property.


5 posted on 05/02/2010 9:02:29 AM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Cardinal Mahony, your analogy comparing Arizona to Nazi Germany is shameful.
6 posted on 05/02/2010 9:03:11 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Alex Murphy

Worst. Cardinal. Ever.*

*=Tied with Cardinal Law of Boston, another bad apple.


7 posted on 05/02/2010 9:04:38 AM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: lazypadawan

Wow, I guess it will suck for the MSM when Mahoney is replaced!


8 posted on 05/02/2010 9:07:13 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Alex Murphy
Mahoney is full of Baloney.
9 posted on 05/02/2010 9:08:56 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: BenKenobi

Ya got that right.
A whole lot of FReepers won’t like it much either.

The Catholic ones will be dancing in the streets.


10 posted on 05/02/2010 9:12:44 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Alex Murphy
Mahony compared Arizona to Nazi Germany after the state passed a strict new law that allows police to check the legal status of anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant.

I support the church loosing it's tax exempt status when this type of thing is allowed to run free.

allows police to check the legal status of anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant.

NO BIGGER LIE CAN BE TOLD. AND it is repeated over and over in the dying lying lame stream media - these people have never read the LAW. It allows no such thing - there must be probably cause.
11 posted on 05/02/2010 9:13:20 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: hoosierham

Persinally, in choosing friends, Catholic bishops are not near the top of my list.


12 posted on 05/02/2010 9:18:49 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years.)
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To: OldNavyVet

This guy Mahony is a four flusher. A pandering, unabashed, indiscriminate phony of the highest order.


13 posted on 05/02/2010 9:24:14 AM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: Alex Murphy

As usual, ICE was nowhere to be found.


14 posted on 05/02/2010 9:24:16 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Alex Murphy

The best response to Mahony and the Bishops is not to support the churchs financially especially Catholic Charities and the the Catholic Cammpaign for Human Development.

These Bishops and Cardinals have never had a real job and they are very poor stewards of the monies that they raise and only use it to advance their personal agendas such as illegal aliens.


15 posted on 05/02/2010 9:28:36 AM PDT by ethics
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s not just Mahony. The RCC endorses illegal immigration.

Catholic Legal Immigration Network
http://www.cliniclegal.org/

Mission Statement

To enhance and expand delivery of legal services to indigent and low-income immigrants principally through diocesan immigration programs and to meet the immigration needs identified by the Catholic Church in the United States.
CLINIC History

In 1988, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) established CLINIC as a legally distinct 501(c)(3) organization to support a rapidly growing network of community-based immigration programs. CLINIC’s network originally comprised 17 programs. It has since increased to more than 185 diocesan and other affiliated immigration programs with 290 field offices in 48 states. The network employs roughly 1,200 attorneys and “accredited” paralegals who, in turn, serve 600,000 low-income immigrants each year. CLINIC and its member agencies represent low-income immigrants without reference to their race, religion, gender, ethnic group, or other distinguishing characteristics.

# In 2007 alone, CLINIC provided 7,676 detained immigrants with “know your rights” workshops.
# CLINIC founded the only toll-free referral line for asylees seeking accurate information about available services and programs. In 2007, the National Asylee Information and Referral Line took 9,067 phone calls from detainees, their families and their supporters, and provided 3,439 detainees with individual screenings and interviews. Referral information is available in 19 different languages.
# In 2007, CLINIC made 211 legal rights presentations to children, consulted with 288 children, and fielded 1,781 phone calls for advice and referrals on detained children’s issues.


16 posted on 05/02/2010 9:32:13 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Alex Murphy



17 posted on 05/02/2010 9:39:26 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Rational Thought
"Cardinal Mahony, your analogy comparing Arizona to Nazi Germany is shameful."

Agreed. I am ashamed to say I am Catholic after reading this criminal's remarks. Disgraceful and disgusting. May he rot in hell with all the pedophile priests he defended.

18 posted on 05/02/2010 9:46:43 AM PDT by Wonderama Mama (Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Clock King

An African pope would probably be soft on illegal immigration.


19 posted on 05/02/2010 10:23:00 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: al baby

that’s why I witheld and substantially decreased my church donation here in LA because I know it’s not going to God and it funds the rape scandal under Mahony’s watch at the L.A. archdiocese.


20 posted on 05/02/2010 10:47:31 AM PDT by max americana
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To: vladimir998
Upon his retirement , Mahony needs to join the Episcopal Church in LA, soon to be led by lesbian Bishop Mary Glasspool. This would allow both Protestants and Catholics to gain on the exchange. Neither one would have to be concerned about sexual advances by the other, and he could pose as an administrative consultant ostensibly to educate her regarding arcane duties of the office of Bishop. However, there might be some problem if he traveled to Rome and she accompanied him as an administrative aide.The pair would be the darlings of the LA journalists who would fawn over every move of the lovely couple. Wouldn't this start the tongues wagging.
21 posted on 05/02/2010 11:13:24 AM PDT by bronx2
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To: Alex Murphy
...a set of clear criteria defining what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" that an individual might be undocumented. "They can't," he said. "Because you'd come up with ‘brown skin, black hair and listens to ranchera music.' "

How about "Doesn't speak English, suggesting strongly that the individual was not raised in this country, and doesn't have any proof of being a legal visitor."?

22 posted on 05/02/2010 12:10:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bronx2

“Neither one would have to be concerned about sexual advances by the other,”

LOL!


23 posted on 05/02/2010 12:11:59 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Alex Murphy

I walked away from the catholic church on the day that commune preayers included one for an end to the death penaty.


24 posted on 05/02/2010 12:19:03 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years.)
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To: Clock King
We need a good African Pope who won’t tolerate people like him. Bring back ex-communication, shut off all of his funds, ban him from church property.

Catholic was once a valuable brand that men died for, rather than denounce.

And now we are witnessing a disgraceful act of suicide.
25 posted on 05/02/2010 12:25:30 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: hoosierham
Mahony is on his way out and a very orthodox and straight shooting Archbishop is coming in -- so don't worry!

Cardinal Roger Mahony's Religious and Political Agenda
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In Defense of Archbishop Gomez's Handling of Abuse Scandals
Archbishop Gomez: Who is He?

Why Archbishop Gomez is like other Bishops Appointed by Pope Benedict
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Precious words from the archbishop... [Jose Gomez]
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Vatican: Archbishop Gomez appointed to Archdiocese of LA

Pope's 'Revenge' As LA Gets Opus Dei Bishop [Pope's "Revenge" on Hollywood Sodomites!]
Gomez Holds Both Conservative And Progressive Views [Denounced College for Pro-Abortion HRC Invite]
Pope Names Latino Leader For L.A. Archdiocese [Member of Conservative Opus Dei Movement]/a>
Historic Appointment to LA Archdiocese
Report: Gomez is going to L.A.
It's Official: New Archbishop [Gomez} for Los Angeles
El Tiempo Ha Venido -- Reports: (Archbishop) Gomez Up to LA (Catholic Caucus)
[To replace Cardinal Mahony] Vatican rumor: an American prelate in play?
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 1)
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 2)

26 posted on 05/02/2010 12:40:08 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BenKenobi

It’s already happened

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2505079/posts?page=26#26

An adjutor is already in place!

Sing joyfully!


27 posted on 05/02/2010 12:42:13 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I would encourage Cardinal Mahoney to consider the Catechism of the Catholic Church, specifically section 2241:

“Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants’ duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.”


28 posted on 05/02/2010 12:45:02 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Salvation

Great!

When is Pedophile Protector Cardinal Law going to go?

Or is Mahony just going to retire to the Vatican with the rest of the Pedophile Protectors?


29 posted on 05/02/2010 2:23:06 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

I have no answers to your questions, but my intuition tells me that Mahony might stick around Southern CA for a year or so.

Hard to tell.


30 posted on 05/02/2010 2:27:07 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cheerio

I support imprisoning people for the crime of stupidity who confuse the acts of an individual with the teaching of the Church. In fact, you and Mahony can share a cell.


31 posted on 05/02/2010 8:02:26 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: TSgt
The RCC endorses illegal immigration.

Bearing false witness is a sin.

32 posted on 05/02/2010 8:04:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
You are not aware of the current immigration laws, that have been in existence since 1940 requiring all non-us citizens in this country to "carry their papers"?

Why would I be sharing a cell? Because I said something you disagree with?
33 posted on 05/02/2010 9:00:45 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio
I support the church loosing it's tax exempt status when this type of thing is allowed to run free.

I don't, because that will set precedent for the next church to "loose" its tax-exempt status for opposing abortion, homosexual acts, "gay marriage", etc.

It's the same argument we make on the First Amendment: a government permitted to censor positions with which we disagree will soon permit itself to censor those with which we agree.

34 posted on 05/02/2010 10:17:29 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Bearing false witness is a sin.

So I made up the Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Cardinal Mahoney and the plethora of other priests and bishops who harbor illegal immigrants?

Are you brainwashed?
35 posted on 05/03/2010 4:43:20 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Bearing false witness is a sin.

So is raping children and covering it up.
36 posted on 05/03/2010 5:01:27 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: BenKenobi

I bet Mahoney and a good number of other lefties are NOT HAPPY with the Pope’s new appointment to fill Mahoney’s vacuum. Maybe they can whine themselves right out of the Archdiocese. Won’t be a moment too soon. I hear that Abp. Gomez will come in alongside Mahoney in May, even tho Mahoney does not step down til next February. Goodbye, Mahoney. Not a moment too soon.


37 posted on 05/03/2010 6:53:20 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: bboop

Why do you think they are interviewing him now? They want to milk the most out of Mahoney as a ‘Cardinal’.


38 posted on 05/03/2010 12:37:23 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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