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Pope Benedict to deliver 'intense' message during Fatima visit
EWTN News ^ | 5/5/2010

Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley

"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.

Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.

The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.

Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.

The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."

It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.

The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.

This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.

During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.

He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.

According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.


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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I pray for your soul, actually.


141 posted on 05/06/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne; Alex Murphy
Where did I say it was?

Don't worry. You didn't say it anywhere.

The antis can't read or hear what we write or say. They have to make stuff up and then attack their phantoms.

142 posted on 05/06/2010 9:09:04 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

No . . .

Non Roman Catholics et al

find the wild fantasized extrapolations, inferences, assumptions ostensibly based . . .

seemingly on a very rubbery Bible, dictionary and history

to be well beyond tolerable belief in a number of specifics.


143 posted on 05/06/2010 9:09:38 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg

I recall Christ saying, “Jerusalem, O Jerusalem, how often I have wanted to gather you to me, as a mother hen gathers her chicks.”

But, I guess He didn’t mean what He said....


144 posted on 05/06/2010 9:12:09 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Fascinating . . . reminds me . . .

I’ve observed in my life . . . that generally speaking . . .

prayers of bitterness, resentment, hostility, despising hatred, and the like

are not particularly powerful . . . i.e. in good ways.

Thankfully, God is sovereign. Maybe He makes allowences where there’s a microgram of good intension thrown in with all the seething bitterness.


145 posted on 05/06/2010 9:12:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: johngrace

Excellent Scriptures.

Do you know any RC’s hereon very familiar with them?

How about practicing them more than on Christmas and Easter?


146 posted on 05/06/2010 9:13:57 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

Is that from IT’S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD?


147 posted on 05/06/2010 9:14:50 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Hey! I have to admit! Your Right about all types of christians{catholics and the rest}. Thats point well taken!


148 posted on 05/06/2010 9:18:07 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Quix

Actually, I pray that God will bless you with the wonderful love of a mother for a lonely, lost child. I pray He will introduce you to His mother, and that she will lead you to become worthy of the promises of Christ.


149 posted on 05/06/2010 9:20:27 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Quix

I did not post the Picture. But yes. Great Movie- Jonathan Winters was the best!


150 posted on 05/06/2010 9:21:17 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Quix
Actually the deal here is about humility and faith.

Meister Eckhardt wrote about this, and if YOU don't know about THAT Dominican brother, you are missing a treat.

Lemme 'splain:
IF you trust God's promise of the protection and guidance of the Holy Spirit, then even if your particular prelate is a bozo (as is often the case), his very boso-osity is a gift in the form of a chance to step out in trust that God's Spirit it going to make it come out all right despite local bozos.

This is an AWESOME spiritual challenge and exercise --simply awesome. Sometimes it's hard to obey a boss whom we think to be right.

It's REALLY hard to obey a boss whom we know to be a bozo, because we trust God's promise (as we think it to be) to protect the Church even with bozos like Peter and most of the subsequent Popes.

The Catholic experience provides the faithful with many many opportunities daily to make a conscious, purposeful commitment of trust to God.It's a real blessing. It's as if God were saying to each one of us, "Okay, do you trust me when I give you a bishop who is a poltroon and a dolt?"

We have it easy. Job said, "Though he slay me, yet will I trust the Lord.

Catholics say, "Even though He obviously looked long and hard for the biggest horse's patootie He could find,and made him our bishop, Yet will I trust the Lord."

and at the end of the difficult and frustrating day we weep with relief because God Himself has once again proved Himself worthy of trust and love.

151 posted on 05/06/2010 9:22:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: johngrace; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Good.

Given your relatively short number of years on FR, perhaps you haven’t read a high enough percentage of my rantings to realize I’ve always emphasized that.

The Vatican umbrella includes almost everything from A to Z as does the Protty umbrella.

Of course, only the Roman Catholics et al pretend—in many hagglings back and forth—that

THEIR . . . uhhhh burps . . . aren’t acidic and aren’t embarrassing—and that except for a rare wayward monk or priest way over THERE and waaaaaaayyyyyy back long ago—they are ALL as pure as the driven snow and

ONLY believe exactly what the Catechism says and ONLY practice exactly what the Catechism says to practice.

Annnnnnnd . . . most preposterous of all . . . that the Catechism agrees 100% with 100% of Scripture.

Please excuse me. Those last lines are likely to trigger some upchuck.

I didn’t realize what great fantasizers the RC’s were before I joined FR.


152 posted on 05/06/2010 9:23:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg

Yes.

I agree. Trusting God in such cases is an exercise in growing in Faith, big time. Been there. Done that.


153 posted on 05/06/2010 9:25:20 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

Good.

I’ll take your word for it.

Blessings to you in The Lord’s grace and love and in walking in His Spirit attentive to HIS voice.


154 posted on 05/06/2010 9:27:11 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; johngrace; All

Now lettest Thou thy servant depart in peace. Thou hast fulfilled Thy promise. Mine own eyes have seen Thy Salvation which Thou hast prepared in the sight of all peoples, a light unto the Gentiles, and the glory of Thy people Israel.

All y’all, that’s from the gospels. Heh.


155 posted on 05/06/2010 9:27:13 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: johngrace

Was one of the few really pleasant things I did with my blood dad in my 63 years . . . at the Cinerama in Scottsdale not long after the movie came out.

I laughed belly laughs at probably 95% of the gags.

The guy kicking the bucket at the end was the precisely right finishing touch.

I think I saw THE BROTHERS GRIMM BIOGRAPHY/FAIRY TALES also in Cinerama at the same theater.


156 posted on 05/06/2010 9:29:59 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: markomalley; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
+

Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

157 posted on 05/06/2010 9:31:56 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Quix

Hey I am a big old time movie buff. I am 48. I used go up until the Mid 80’s to this cinerama theatre they were great. I just want to say I personally would of love to have seen its Mad mad mad world on that screen. I own the dvd. I just love it.


158 posted on 05/06/2010 9:36:46 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Quix; MarkBsnr
It boggles my mind that you really believe what you wrote.But it is WAY too late for me to try to address it.

Quix, you think you have no kinship with the wacky liberal sodomite Xtians.

But yeah you do: Neither of you is in communion with the See of Rome.

But it was just as trivial and arbitrary for God to choose ONE guy in Ur of the Chaldees and to say to Abraham, "I am going to explain monotheism to you AND I am going to put you through trials in which you make nearly all the wrong choices, but at the end I will bless you, but you won't understand the blessing in all its wonder until you've been dead for over a millennium.

You make the mistake of thinking that because we make these outrageous claims, we must think we are the bees knees!

But just as Mount Sinai is a mountain nobody would look at twice if the Torah had not been delivered there, so also the Catholic church is the most ludicrous dam' thing you could imagine. No person of discernment could ever confuse the glory of God with the gaudy display of the Church.

More tomorrow maybe, I am officially at the end of my tether. May the Lord grant us a quiet night and a peaceful death.

159 posted on 05/06/2010 9:37:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Quix

You just gave me an idea. I have to move down south. When I get there since its warmer I want to get those tv projecter that can go on the inside or outside wall . I have family already there. That sounds like fun. I hate most new movies. Alot trash.


160 posted on 05/06/2010 9:41:57 PM PDT by johngrace
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