Posted on 05/05/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
Does Teppe know that you were a member of what you refer to as a “mainstream faiths” for decades after you became an adult yourself...
Now just what does that do to your credibility on that subject ???
And while you were a Presbyterian you dont seemed to have found out what was untrue about Presbyterianism...
Strawberry Waffle ???
YUM
Goes good with a cuppa coffee...
:)
If I could I’d post the picture, my husband took me out for breakfast before work..........Nice way to start the day. (coffee is a given)
Are you honestly now telling me that the "pure religion" that the apostle James referenced -- of helping orphans & widows -- can only be accomplished by marrying them? (Really?) Your ancestor couldn't have supported this widow & orphans other than through the marriage route? Since when?
If polygamy is so completely evil, maybe you should try a religion who’s God has not supported polygamists in the past! I’m just asking for a little intellectual honesty from you .... is that so hard?
And I'm asking of you, Teppe, for a lot more intellectual consistency. If you think that God, by "supporting" Abraham and Jacob, that he was likewise endorsing polygamy...then...are you consistent?
I suppose you'll next tell us that God's approval of David meant that adultery can be institutionalized as well, eh? Or since God elevated Solomon, you're next going to advise we all take 700 wives & 300 concubines? Really? If not, why not?
Or what about Hosea? He was told by God to marry a prostitute, Gomer. And Gomer carried on her trade post marital covenant. Are you now telling all Mormon and Christian males that they should seek out active prostitutes, marry them, and let them carry on their trades in their homes? All because God told Hosea to do it -- which means, in your eyes, that God sanctions prostitution as a Mormon cottage industry? Really? Is that part of your "restoration" plans? Did the Christian church remove "many plain and precious things" from the New Testament -- additional "homes" carrying on Hosea and Gomer's tradition? And you're "out" to restore all of these "alternative" sexual traditions? Really?
I do object to Polygamy, but I have the intellectual honesty to admit that we worship the God of Polygamists (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob). So ... apparently, it must not be as evil as you say it is.
Come on Teppe. If this is your interpretation of polygamy, then do you likewise conclude that David's adultery "must not be as evil as you say it is"??? Do you likewise conclude that Gomer's prostitution activity occurring pre-and post marital covenant "must not be as evil as you say it is"? Or what about Solomon? Do you concluded that 700 wives & 300 concubines "must not be as evil as you say it is"? (Even though 1 Kings 11:3 & Nehemiah 13:26 & Deut. 17:17 tells us directly otherwise?)
You see, Teppe, your faulty interpretations are rooted in a faulty worldview. You concluded that first people need to do all they can do obedience wise, and then God comes and sanctions them, endorses them, sponsors them, etc. No. Jesus said, "For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Matt. 9:13)
Jesus specifically became a son of man to "support" sinners, Teppe. And, yes, that apparently was a "missing lesson" by your Sunday School and Seminary teachers!!!
And why, Teppe, do you reduce God's Word to merely what I "say it is"??? What? You don't trust God's Word at face value? You have to attribute it to me to downplay it? You don't believe Deut. 17:17; Lev. 18:18; 1 Kings 11:3; Or Nehemiah 13:26?
What about the Book of Mormon, Teppe? Do you take that as God's Word? Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord. (Jacob 2:24)
Direct Q: Is polygamy "abominable" to your thus "saith the Lord" god or not?
If you can't answer these questions directly and truthfully and consistently, then, yes, I'm going to call out your lack of intellectual integrity. And simultanously, I am going to respectfully request for a third apology from you -- this time for calling into question my "intellectual honesty." (I still haven't received the second apology from you I respectfully requested)
My Dad credited her with saving his life through her nursing when he had to have a heart valve transplant and later...
I can remember him not allowing us to sass Mum or talk back to her...
If we asked him for anything or to go somewhere it was always “What does your mother say ?”
They talked and agreed on everything...especially on raising us and discipline...Mum would say “Wait till your father gets home...”
LOL
I have a new and decadent approach using coconut oil instead of corn oil or butter to fry. Also I make a Jiffy baking mix thick biscuit batter with two eggs.
Fry it on lower heat in the coconut oil and you won't need anything but fresh strawberries and your favorite topping. Absolutely decadent if you like coconut oil.
And a large cup of coffee makes my day.
How yummy. I love pop corn popped in coconut it is the best!!!!
Wait till your Dad gets home........ a classic. My mom would say sometimes, “your Dad knows how mad this makes me”. I was terrified. I didn’t tell that scared me to shivers. (Why, my Dad had lost an arm in WWII and somehow I always imagined she had pulled if off)
You win!!!
SLC has LOT’s better looking ones!
(Are they ALL looking for a RM?)
Hmmm...
He didn’t look French to me?
AMEN!
How can one putter without a place to putter in?
Dog gone!
(He makes ME envious!)
Those are the REAL Mormons: the Flds.
The SLC bunch was (is?) afraid of the U.S.Gov't and quit following GOD's law, as found in D&C 132.
How's your LONG term memory?
Did you EVER remember just what it was that Joseph Smith claimed to have LEARNED that was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism of his day?
(You DID see the SCRIPTURE (mormon) that I posted where JS called ALL Christians APOSTATE; didn't you?)
Are YOU ready to go back on a REAL hand-cart trek?
One where the Living Prophet® sent SO many MORMONs to their deaths?
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
Man, I hope you didn’t pull a muscle with this stretch of an article...slow day at Anti-Mormon Central?
And all 13 people who ever see the thread get together for a high-five, superiority fling later.
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