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Immigration, Politics, and the Church (Ecumenic) ^ | May 6th, 2010 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 05/07/2010 6:50:59 AM PDT by GonzoII

On the day after Cinco De Mayo, I’d like to take a deep breath and talk about the Catholic position on Latino immigration, an issue which promises to become ever more important and controversial in our national debate. During the health care debate, critics of my position on the Democrat bill would say that it was more Republican than Catholic. Of course, I would describe it as (in order) Catholic, prudent and conservative. (As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not registered with any political party.) These same critics I hope will be relieved to find out that I don’t, in fact, have much patience with the Republican party-line on the issue of immigration, and that I am critical about what many “conservative” politicians are saying about the issue.

A few points for background: I grew up in southern California, where Latino issues, culture and the reality of illegal immigration was far more pressing that it is in much of the country (or at least was when I was growing up). I have visited Mexico several times and while I obviously am no expert about Latinos, I’m not the greenest of gringos either (I hope). My experience is in part formed by knowing individuals who work for the Church on both sides of the border. Also, much of my thinking about the political and cultural debate has been formed by working with and talking to individuals associated with APP’s Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles - this article published in Politico gives a good snapshot of their views. Finally, when I cite various sources in this post, I am not endorsing everything this individual or organization has said, just the points I’ve highlighted.

If the issue of the Catholic position on Latino immigration in our politics doesn’t interest you, feel free to cease..

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: immigration


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1 posted on 05/07/2010 6:50:59 AM PDT by GonzoII
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[Bill 1070] Makes Arizona An Instant Epithet

2 posted on 05/07/2010 6:54:16 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
Related threads:
Bishop Slattery calls for secure borders, immigration reform [Tulsa, OK]
Cardinal: Catholics are key to achieving immigration reform [ or stopping it ]
Welcome the Stranger (Catholic theology & Church history against illegals)
Arizona immigration law shows need for reform, Archbishop Chaput writes
Bishops to the Left of Senate Dems on Immigration
Mahony blesses L.A.'s rally [pro-(illegal)immigration rally]
Jose Gomez (future LA Archbishop), champion of illegal immigrants [2005 post]
Catholic Money and Tax Dollars Finance Illegal Alien Rally
Cardinal Mahony speaks on illegal immigration
Catholic Church Facilitates Foreign Invasion
Archbishop Timothy Dolan: Immigration Reform. Here We Go Again
US Catholic Bishops Opposition To Arizona Immigration Law Leaves Many Unanswered Questions
US Catholic church attacks 'draconian' Arizona law
Pope Benedict urges bishops to work for recognition of immigrant rights
Arizona's Proposed Illegal Immigration Crackdown Akin To Nazi Tactics, Cardinal Roger Mahony Says
Hispanics increasing Catholic numbers in US, but assimilation has downside
Fewer receive sacraments
Does the American Catholic Church Have a Numbers Problem?
US Catholic bishops condemn US immigration raids
Gathering calls for 'fair and humane' immigration policies [Catholic Bishops on immigration reform]
Journey to Justice: A Catholic Vision of Immigration
Catholic Church Chooses Wrong Side Again
Survey: Catholics Adapt to Culture at Cost of Committed Faith [Blacks 1/7 of the population, but only 1/25 of the Catholic Church]
GOP Senator: Immigration Bill's Fate Hangs in the Balance [SBC, Catholic Church support the bill]
Recognize Christ in every immigrant, bishop urges U.S. Catholics
Local Catholics celebrate diversity [Catholic "Immigration Mass" in Apple Valley, CA]
Putting faith in search for rights [Catholic "Immigration Mass" in Chicago, IL]
Praying for immigration reform [Catholic "Immigration Mass" in Los Angeles, CA]
Irish, Latino Catholics march for immigrant rights [Catholic "Immigration Mass" in San Francisco]
Catholics push for immigration reform [Catholic "Immigration Mass" in Raleigh, NC]
Withholding their 'amens' [Catholics object to a call for a revised immigration policy at Lent]

3 posted on 05/07/2010 7:19:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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