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Why Young Catholics Are Leaving the Church
Inside Catholic ^ | May 7, 2010 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 05/07/2010 8:18:15 AM PDT by NYer

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To: carton253; Judith Anne

“Speaking as a crazed evangelical, the issue for me is Jesus.”

That’s what is wrong with us “crazed evangelicals.”


41 posted on 05/07/2010 9:23:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Irisshlass
Can you lead me to where it speaks about abortion?

The WCF itself does not speak to it. But here's the next closest thing:

Q & A - What is your stand on abortion? [The Orthodox Presbyterian Church on abortion]

42 posted on 05/07/2010 9:25:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Judith Anne
crazed evangelicals

That's not making it personal?
43 posted on 05/07/2010 9:26:00 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Grunthor

Your own personal, “Jesus”, who looks suspiciously like Pat Boone.


44 posted on 05/07/2010 9:26:36 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: TSgt

In order for something to be “making it personal” on the Religion Forum, it must be speaking of another Freeper, individually.


45 posted on 05/07/2010 9:27:06 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Grunthor

Haha...I sign some of my christmas cards every year to my liberal cousins...from your right wing christian fundamentalist wacko cousin...LOL


46 posted on 05/07/2010 9:27:08 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Alex Murphy

Thank-you.


47 posted on 05/07/2010 9:29:13 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Desdemona
Frankly, it’s a matter of really bad catechesis as to why people wander away as late teens. If you really know the Faith, there is no leaving. Shifting worship and devotion style, maybe, but no leaving.

Being well catechized is a tremendous help, but the main reason is most late teens never really were Catholic. It started before they were born with their grandparents, who remained Catholic, but began to drift. Most of their children stopped going to Church as soon as they left home, but married in the Church to please the parents and for sentimental reasons. For the same reasons, the children baptized their own children. But it ended there. Many late teens of today haven't been back to Church since they were baptized.

48 posted on 05/07/2010 9:29:23 AM PDT by MayfairFly
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To: rj45mis

It’s the same militant group every time.

One of them, Irisshlass, attacked my military service when they were unable to form an intelligent argument.


49 posted on 05/07/2010 9:30:33 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Nosterrex; mlizzy
They leave for all sorts of reasons, but many are enticed by nondenominational feel good, and high energy groups. Entertainment replaces commitment. Most will leave religion with its moral absolutes and become spiritual, which is a euphemism for egotist hedonism.

Excellent point! Hence my suggestion that christianity, with its 30,000+ churches, has turned faith into a supermarket where one can pick and choose. That is not what our Lord intended. According to Scripture, Christ wanted us to be one (John 17:22-23). We are all as a Church to be of one mind and to think the same (Philippians 2:2; Romans 15:5). There is only to be one "faith" (Ephesians 4:3-6), not many. For the Church is Christ's Body and Christ only had one Body, not many.

50 posted on 05/07/2010 9:30:59 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: MayfairFly

It is the scandals and the outside influences...especially college.


51 posted on 05/07/2010 9:32:00 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: 0beron

And yours looks suspisciously like the Virgin Mary.


52 posted on 05/07/2010 9:35:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Irisshlass

“I sign some of my christmas cards every year to my liberal cousins...from your right wing christian fundamentalist wacko cousin...LOL”

My hippy mother still can’t figure out how she raised a conservative son.


53 posted on 05/07/2010 9:36:21 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: 0beron
Your own personal, “Jesus”, who looks suspiciously like Pat Boone.

I can almost see the resemblence....



54 posted on 05/07/2010 9:37:49 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Judith Anne

NYer, a pro-Catholic FReeper posts most of the threads that are not so Catholic friendly. Do a search and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

The post is usually followed up with some type of justification or condemnation of the article. Other FReepers, such as me, post opposing thoughts on said article and are immediately labeled anti-Catholic bigots.

This begs the question, why even post the article, especially un-caucused articles?

Or do some FReepers simply not understand the concept of this forum?


55 posted on 05/07/2010 9:37:49 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Judith Anne
I see no point in making this an open thread. It will quickly become a cesspool. As I have no desire to hear what the crazed evangelicals have to say, I will not be participating.

We actually don't have to say anything at all...Your former Catholics are saying it instead...

They are leaving your church for the same reasons we would never join your church...

56 posted on 05/07/2010 9:38:40 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: TSgt
that is not true...I never attacked your military service...I am a veteran..5 national defense ribbons. I asked what type of job in the AF you had to allow you to sit on a forum all day and night bashing the catholic church. It would not be allowed under my supervision, and you would of been busted for dereliction of duty. Also as a representative of the AF you are to project a postive image to all in the civilian community. Now you stated you were either retired or discharged. I take it you were discharged so why are you still representing the AF which you are not part of anymore. This is not an image the AF wants to project. I can debate you anytime any place, but your intelligent argument resulted in the calling of my children being taken and molested by Namibia...out and out horrible thing to say from someone supposively standing up against sexual abuse of children. IMO you should not be allowed to be a member of this forum.
57 posted on 05/07/2010 9:44:51 AM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
It is the scandals and the outside influences...especially college.

Not true. Numbers have been falling since the late 60's, long before the scandals became public. I maintain that in one form or another, it almost always boils down to sex.

58 posted on 05/07/2010 9:45:20 AM PDT by MayfairFly
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To: Alex Murphy
...obliged to move to a Protestant expression of faith because I experience God's presence more easily and more conclusively as a Presbyterian and began to do so over a dozen years ago." Presbyterianism works for him in ways Catholicism no longer did. "The Presbyterian confessions and order of worship are very left-brain and made me into a much better Christian," he says.

AMEN! Excellent. So true.

From the article...

A great many Catholics who find out that their children have become Protestants at college simply don't know how to argue against the charge that much of Catholic teaching and tradition is made up.

God willing, some of those parents will see this is no mere "charge" but fact - so much of Roman Catholicism is "made up."

59 posted on 05/07/2010 9:46:45 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Irisshlass
that is not true...I never attacked your military service...I am a veteran..5 national defense ribbons. I asked what type of job in the AF you had to allow you to sit on a forum all day and night bashing the catholic church. It would not be allowed under my supervision, and you would of been busted for dereliction of duty. Also as a representative of the AF you are to project a postive image to all in the civilian community. Now you stated you were either retired or discharged. I take it you were discharged so why are you still representing the AF which you are not part of anymore. This is not an image the AF wants to project. I can debate you anytime any place, but your intelligent argument resulted in the calling of my children being taken and molested by Namibia...out and out horrible thing to say from someone supposively standing up against sexual abuse of children. IMO you should not be allowed to be a member of this forum.

Rambling nonsensical reply of the day!

5 national defense ribbons

Given to every service member with a pulse during a time of designated conflict.

Also as a representative of the AF you are to project a postive image to all in the civilian community.

I do, I'm against child rape.

your intelligent argument resulted in the calling of my children being taken and molested by Namibia.

Namibia? The African country?
60 posted on 05/07/2010 9:50:59 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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