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Radio Replies Second Volume - The Idealization of Protestantism
Celledoor.com ^ | 1940 | Fathers Rumble & Carty

Posted on 05/08/2010 9:30:27 PM PDT by GonzoII

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To: My hearts in London - Everett

If you have actually READ the gospels, you will note that Christ didn’t put up with moneychangers in the temple, Pharisees and scribes, or any others in the “generation of vipers” and “whited sepulchres.”

I guess it’s annoying to anti-Catholic bigots when Catholics make an answer to falsehood. Shame on us /sarc.


101 posted on 05/09/2010 10:10:21 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
More cut and paste? Got a source? Otherwise, feh!

And just waht do you call comment #32?

90% the religious threads are filled with information taken form other sites that says things better then one could say it themselves. To claim it is wrong then go back and tell that to every other freeper that does the same to other threads. I did have credit due to whom and where it came from.
102 posted on 05/09/2010 10:15:41 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: Natural Law

scripture


103 posted on 05/09/2010 10:17:36 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: OneVike

Linkie no workie. At least, it doesn’t go to any comment #32.


104 posted on 05/09/2010 10:22:01 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: OneVike

Anyway, comment #32 is from roamer.


105 posted on 05/09/2010 10:23:29 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: narses

Before the Protestant reformation, the Protestant and Catholic church were one and the same.

SnakeDoc


106 posted on 05/09/2010 10:23:39 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: Judith Anne
My bad, wrong comment. I should have directed yo to post number 33

GonzoII did the same to defend his comments and was not deleted. Mine was deleted when I did it the first time.
107 posted on 05/09/2010 10:27:56 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: SnakeDoctor
"Before the Protestant reformation, the Protestant and Catholic church were one and the same."

Well, Doc, then we have to ask why was there a Reformation.

Gonzo

108 posted on 05/09/2010 10:30:58 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: OneVike
The Catholic Church depends upon signs, wonders, and traditions of the Church along with the supposed infallible wisdom from the Pope for the salvation of their members.

Have you ever asked the question, "Who is more infallible, the man elected Pope, or the men who elected that man?" Then to follow up, "What makes the elected man infallible over the men who elected that man?"

109 posted on 05/09/2010 10:31:19 AM PDT by Ken4TA (The truth hurts those who don't like truth!)
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To: Judith Anne

I am not a Catholic basher just because I ask questions and don’t like articles criticizing my faith! You seem very mean-spirited in the way you word your posts on this thread.


110 posted on 05/09/2010 10:31:28 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: OneVike

Your posts were fine. The Catholics won’t stop until they have The Koran inserted into the Bible. Everything is OK in their tradition provided they pay homage to the Pope prior to faith alone in Christ alone.


111 posted on 05/09/2010 10:32:59 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: OneVike
"Mine was deleted when I did it the first time."

Mine was from reputable sources, that didn't claim the Catholic church introduced the heresy called candles.

112 posted on 05/09/2010 10:33:06 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Ken4TA

I like your thinking.

Very good point.


113 posted on 05/09/2010 10:33:55 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Oh, poor baby! No one will hold your hand? Then maybe stay off the open threads. Thin-skinned posters are disrupters on open threads.


114 posted on 05/09/2010 10:34:36 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: OneVike; GonzoII

You evidently have great difficulty making links. A refresher course for you is in order.

And if you’re going to use GonzoII’s post, it’s polite to ping him. Of course, politeness is not expected from protestants.


115 posted on 05/09/2010 10:36:05 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: GonzoII

Because the Catholic church lost its way (doctrinally and otherwise). In my opinion, and that of many Protestants, it started as Christ’s church and became a church of men ... thus requiring renewal and reform.

The origins of Christ’s church on earth remain the same, however. I trace my church to the exact same moments to which you trace yours ... the apostles.

SnakeDoc


116 posted on 05/09/2010 10:36:31 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: Cvengr
"Everything is OK in their tradition provided they pay homage to the Pope prior to faith alone in Christ alone."

How about a source?

117 posted on 05/09/2010 10:36:32 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

Maybe there wasn’t any central authority figure between the day of penecost and Constantine. Christ is the head of the Church maybe he intended that way. Paul went into cities and helped to elect their own leaders and they were autonomous.


118 posted on 05/09/2010 10:37:57 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: OneVike

BTW, who is moder_ator? That poster does not have any posts attached to the screen name.


119 posted on 05/09/2010 10:38:09 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: SnakeDoctor

should have pinged you to my post 118


120 posted on 05/09/2010 10:38:25 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Judith Anne

>> Oh, poor baby! No one will hold your hand? Then maybe stay off the open threads. Thin-skinned posters are disrupters on open threads.

You seem awfully angry (and perpetually offended) for someone who is constantly chastizing others for “thin skin”.

Again ... a self-defeating post.

SnakeDoc


121 posted on 05/09/2010 10:38:31 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: SnakeDoctor
"Because the Catholic church lost its way (doctrinally and otherwise). In my opinion, and that of many Protestants, it started as Christ’s church and became a church of men ... thus requiring renewal and reform."

Then ipso facto you have to admit that Christ could not keep his Church from error in spite of human weekness.

122 posted on 05/09/2010 10:39:52 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Judith Anne

Ah, I see. It appears civility is dead on FR then. Ironically, on the Religion Forum, no less.


123 posted on 05/09/2010 10:40:02 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: Persevero
Because although they are alive in Christ, they are dead, and the Bible says so, and we are expressly forbidden to contact the dead.

EXACTLY !!!


124 posted on 05/09/2010 10:41:18 AM PDT by Ken4TA (The truth hurts those who don't like truth!)
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To: GonzoII

>> Then ipso facto you have to admit that Christ could not keep his Church from error in spite of human weekness.

Christ forgives sins, He hasn’t (yet) eliminated them completely. Until He returns, doctrinal errors are inherent in a human world. I do not believe any man, or any church, is infallible — doctrinally or otherwise.

SnakeDoc


125 posted on 05/09/2010 10:42:43 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: GonzoII; Judith Anne; Natural Law; Arthur McGowan; vladimir998; roamer_1; c-b 1; ...
Mine was from reputable sources,

OH, so now the only reputable sources are from Catholic sites?

I beg to differ. Deny history all you wish, the facts are facts and when you begin a thread who's premise is to attach lies and innuendos to those of the Protestant faith, then you better be man enough to accept proof from sources you find objectionable.

Otherwise I would advise you to cease and desist from publicly attacking Protestant Freepers in an article posted on Sunday morning. .
126 posted on 05/09/2010 10:43:14 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
Civility is overrated in spreading His word. I am a practicioner of the Jack Bauer School of Pragmatic Evangelism ...

SnakeDoc

127 posted on 05/09/2010 10:44:50 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: GonzoII; Cvengr

OK, you posted it Saturday evening, but you still meant to agitate Protestant Freepers.

So why get upset for getting what you asked for?


128 posted on 05/09/2010 10:45:33 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: SnakeDoctor; GonzoII

God has given us instruction as to correction. Matthew 18


129 posted on 05/09/2010 10:45:54 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: OneVike
"OH, so now the only reputable sources are from Catholic sites?"

They may have been from a Catholic site but the quotes are from secular sources like Brittanica etc..

130 posted on 05/09/2010 10:46:32 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: SnakeDoctor

I thought it was interesting, the way you left out most of my statement earlier, when you first stated my post was self-defeating.

That was a very convenient omission for you, LOL!

And thank you, but I don’t care if you think I’m angry. You seem very *sensitive* yourself.


131 posted on 05/09/2010 10:47:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

When you attend Church what do carry? A Bible; a rosary? Just curious.


132 posted on 05/09/2010 10:48:33 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Thank you, SnakeDoc! lol I needed a smile as a break from all the testiness of this thread. :~)


133 posted on 05/09/2010 10:50:43 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: Judith Anne

>> And thank you, but I don’t care if you think I’m angry. You seem very *sensitive* yourself.

Sensitive? Honestly, I couldn’t care less. I find it notable that you repeatedly blast people for whining and over-sensitivity in your whining/over-sensitive posts ... but I find myself amused, not angry.

You haven’t hurt my feelings in the least. Carry on.

SnakeDoc


134 posted on 05/09/2010 10:51:09 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: SnakeDoctor
"doctrinal errors are inherent in a human world."

Indeed they are; enter Christ to prevent his Church from error.

He told his disciples to teach the world all things that he had commanded them and promised to be with them all days even to the end of the world, how could they go wrong?

135 posted on 05/09/2010 10:53:12 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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One Vike, you need to calm down. He’ll post whatever the heck he wants and the RM allows. So will you. It’s called FREE Republic for a reason.

You wrote:

“Deny history all you wish, the facts are facts and when you begin a thread who’s premise is to attach lies and innuendos to those of the Protestant faith, then you better be man enough to accept proof from sources you find objectionable. “

You posted at least three untruths in number 44. I asked for evidence of your false claims. Where is it?


136 posted on 05/09/2010 10:54:48 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: My hearts in London - Everett; SnakeDoctor

The portion of my post that Snake_Doc left out, earlier:

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We have answered them [the VILE comments] in all sincerity until our limit of patience for the very same daily calumnies has been reached.

Like it or lump it, many of us are no longer backing down or making nice. Anti-Catholic bigots have used the Religion Forum rules against us until we have learned to use them ourselves.

______________________________________________________

Your problem with civility is your problem. When someone is civil to me, they generally get it back in return. Attacking someone’s civility, however, does not constitute a religious argument, it is an ad hominem fallacy, and will be pointed out as such.


137 posted on 05/09/2010 10:55:46 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: SnakeDoctor; Judith Anne

Talk about “thin skinned”! Now you must copy and repost Judith Anne’s entire post lest you be accused of “convenient omission”! To copy and repost what you consider to be the relevant passage as is the usual and normal practice is unacceptable. Reference post 131. lol


138 posted on 05/09/2010 10:57:39 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: sabe@q.com
"Maybe there wasn’t any central authority figure between the day of penecost and Constantine."

History shows that there was a central authority..read Clement.

139 posted on 05/09/2010 10:57:42 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

Why would I rely on some source other than the Bible?


140 posted on 05/09/2010 10:59:32 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: GonzoII

I haven’t seen a scriptural justification for believing that the apostles themselves — much less popes, pastors and priest 2000 years thereafter — were doctrinally infallible into perpetuity.

I recall extremely limited circumstances where infallibiliy was temporarily granted. I will acknowledge that the apostles themselves were likely right almost all of the time. However, I do not believe Peter or Paul were infallible ... so I certainly do not believe anyone today is infallible.

>> how could they go wrong?

Sin. Sin separates each of us from Christ. We are forgiven, but are still fallen beings and are unable to fully accept the blessings He offers.

SnakeDoc


141 posted on 05/09/2010 11:00:17 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

ROFLOL! The omitted part gave it the lie, as anyone can see.


142 posted on 05/09/2010 11:00:44 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: SnakeDoctor; Judith Anne; Natural Law; Arthur McGowan; vladimir998; roamer_1; c-b 1; ...
It's time for me to take my wife to our inlaws for Mothers day.

God bless you all and I thank those of you who came to the defense of the truth.

Those whom I do disagree with, I do love and pray for you regardless of our differences.

Just in case you are not as depressed by the testiness of this. Then I suggest you follow this link and watch this video and you will find this thread on Catholicism vs Protestantism to be truly uplifting in comparison.

Stray Cat Comforts a Fallen Friend


Sometimes animals have more compassion then humans.
143 posted on 05/09/2010 11:02:19 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett; SnakeDoctor; Judith Anne

The holy spirit is powerful and it working with the Word of God whiches causes conviction to believe.

OTOH why would anyone want to worship with ugly parishioners?


144 posted on 05/09/2010 11:02:50 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Judith Anne

We read the whole post. It was self-defeating because you whined at the beginning, and then said at the end that whining means you shouldn’t expect to be taken seriously. Thus, you shouldn’t expect me to take the rest of the post seriously. That’s what made the whole thing funny.

SnakeDoc


145 posted on 05/09/2010 11:04:01 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: sabe@q.com
"Why would I rely on some source other than the Bible?"

For the same reason you believe there was an Amercan revolution.

146 posted on 05/09/2010 11:04:23 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: OneVike
"Those whom I do disagree with, I do love and pray for you regardless of our differences."

Thank you; same here.

147 posted on 05/09/2010 11:05:42 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: SnakeDoctor

ROFL! Listen, I have to tell you my whole family (Methodists, Baptists, and Catholics) are reading this thread and laughing. At you.

ROFL!!! So am I. ;-D Happy Mother’s Day, if you are a mother.


148 posted on 05/09/2010 11:05:54 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: GonzoII

Huh?


149 posted on 05/09/2010 11:06:46 AM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: vladimir998; Judith Anne; Natural Law; Arthur McGowan; roamer_1; c-b 1; ConservativeMind; ...

I posted my proof twice, and each time the moderator deleted my comment. So my evidence is not accepted. Not my fault ask the moderator why he deleted my proof.

Comment #52 Removed by Moderator

&

Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

Now I must leave for my Mother-in-laws for a Mothers day gathering. Good day all.


150 posted on 05/09/2010 11:07:13 AM PDT by OneVike (I am Chuck Wolk, a Freeper in Christ since February of 1998)
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