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The pope is visiting Fatima, so in essence alot of conspiratorial nut job kook stories that wouldnt normally get printed get some print time.
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Alot of these stories gain traction off the fact that Sister Lucia was known as a recluse, primarily of her orders discipline. Yet she wrote at least 2 books, commented in the affirmative on JPII’s consecration of Russia and attempted to meet with these 3rd secret detractors to set the record staight. Fr. Gruner was one of these detractors, yet he was a con man and full of theatrics and denials about the meeting. The story of her meeting with him is a story of a grifter trying to keep his deception going. i.e. He shows 2 hours late, meeting rescheduled, next he shows with 20+ of his best friends for what was supposed to be a private meeting, etc, etc. Fr Gruner in the habitually tardy fashion of the Vatican and the Bishops has since been removed from the priesthood and excommunicated.


6 posted on 05/10/2010 4:44:25 PM PDT by Sporaticus
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Fr Gruner in the habitually tardy fashion of the Vatican and the Bishops has since been removed from the priesthood and excommunicated.

Please provide a verifiable link for this assertion (and not a threatened or ipso facto "excommunication").

16 posted on 05/10/2010 8:32:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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Fr Gruner in the habitually tardy fashion of the Vatican and the Bishops has since been removed from the priesthood and excommunicated

From what I understand (I could be wrong), a bishop in India reinstated Father Gruner.

21 posted on 05/11/2010 8:06:40 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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