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To: Running On Empty

"Why God would allow these "ambiguities" to occur in Vatican II. (and other magisterial documents)?

Considering all that I have said thus far, especially concerning the ulterior motives of the liberal prelates and their virtual hijacking of Vatican II, I think Scripture has an answer as to why God would allow these "ambiguities" to occur. In short, there is an interesting working principle in Scripture. As a punishment for your sin, God will allow you to pursue, and be condemned by, what you sinfully desire. This is what I believe happened at Vatican II. The progressivist bishops and theologians sought for a way to push their heterodox ideas into the Church, so God allowed them to do so, as a witness and judgment against them. He would allow the Council to have its "ambiguities" so that those who would interpret them contrary to nineteen centuries of established Catholic dogma, would lead themselves into sin, and ultimately into God's judgment. Unfortunately, as is always the case, the sheep suffer for what the shepherds do wrong, and as a result, we have all been wandering in the spiritual desert of liberal theology for the past 40 years. (Article from Catholic Family News, Feb 2003, by Robert Sungenis)(1)

(1) In fact, the bad shepherds may be a chastisement for the sins of the sheep. Saint John Eudes, basing his words on Sacred Scripture, says that when God wants to punish his people, he sends them bad priests. See The Priest, His Dignity and Obligations, by Saint John Eudes, Chapter 2, "Qualities of a Holy Priest". (New York: P.J. Kenedy and Sons, 1947).

Vatican II is a punishment from God. It is a snare, a siren song to RUN AWAY FROM! Do not seek any answers about the Faith from Vatican II or any theologian that refers to it.

50 posted on 05/11/2010 7:09:22 PM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

You can post to me all you want, as that is your freedom on this forum.

I have no common ground with your position, such as the statement that you know what God allows or uses as a means of punishment.

I won’t be answering any of your posts from now on, since I believe it would be an exercise in futility.

You have also made recent comments about the last three popes being “modernists” and that “modernists are pernicious heretics”.

This speaks volumes. It almost sounds sedavacantist.


51 posted on 05/11/2010 7:25:11 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Leoni
Vatican II is a punishment from God.

HERESY! If the Holy Spirit was not present at Vatican II, you need to put up some proof outside of the mal-application of its constitution by liberal bishops who took great liberties that were not theirs to take. To call it a punishment from God is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, end of story.

And Robert Sungenis went off the deep end long ago. Another apostate.

54 posted on 05/11/2010 9:52:17 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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