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On Mary's Maternal Presence at Pentecost (Catholic Caucus)
zenit ^ | MAY 30, 2004

Posted on 05/24/2010 11:43:11 AM PDT by Coleus

Pentecost marks a time when Mary's presence is of singular importance, says a specialist in Marian studies.  In this interview with ZENIT, Discalced Carmelite Father Jesús Castellano Cervera, who is also a consultor for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, elaborated on the Blessed Virgin's presence at the arrival of the Holy Spirit.

Q: The time we are now living is the conclusion of Eastertide and of the month of May. Is it of special Marian relevance?

Father Castellano Cervera: I think the time extending from the Ascension to Pentecost is a particularly Marian time.  The fact emphasized in the Acts of the Apostles, which reminds us of Mary's presence in the Cenacle, must be stressed. Early iconography, Byzantine liturgy, and early information on Mary are unanimous in reminding us of the Virgin Mary's presence in the episode of the Lord's ascension to heaven.

Mary appears in prayer with the disciples while Jesus ascends to heaven. Thus, the Mother becomes the witness of the whole of Christ's human life, from the coming from the bosom of the Father, to her maternity, and from the ascension to the bosom of the Father, with the flesh taken from the Mother.

Q: What is the meaning of Mary's presence among the disciples in the Cenacle?

Father Castellano Cervera: I believe that Jesus entrusted his disciples to Mary before the coming of the Holy Spirit.  In reality, in a time of "emptiness," when Jesus is no longer present and the Spirit has not yet descended, the Virgin Mary seems to be the most appropriate person to fill, in some way, these two presences at a time of remembrance and expectation.

Of remembrance, because Mary is the living memory of Christ, of his life from the beginning, of his words. Her maternal presence speaks of him in everything. And of expectation, because the Virgin Mary, who has received the Holy Spirit in fullness, becomes the guarantee and hope of the fulfillment of Jesus' promise. The promised Spirit will come -- Mary seems to assure -- as he came upon me. God is faithful to his promises.

Q: Is her presence at the root of the title "Queen of the Apostles" ascribed to her? 

Father Castellano Cervera: I think it is precisely so. Fathers of the Church and medieval authors say clearly that Mary in the Cenacle became the mother and teacher of the apostles with her testimony on Christ.  In Number 26 of the encyclical "Redemptoris Mater," John Paul II speaks of this presence in the midst of Jesus' disciples as singular witness of the mystery of Christ. Her maternal role in this time is obvious.

We can think that the words of Acts 1:14 reflect Mary's maternal endeavor, which helps the disciples to "persevere" every day while awaiting the promised event of the coming of the Spirit, to be "in agreement and united," to open their hearts "in prayer" with an attitude of invocation and confident expectation.   Mary maternally forges the apostles, makes them brothers, prepares the community to receive the Holy Spirit.

Q: Given that Mary had already received the Holy Spirit, wasn't it perhaps superfluous for her to await Pentecost?

Father Castellano Cervera: According to the earliest images of Pentecost, Mary appears among the disciples and receives the Holy Spirit with the whole Church. Her circumstance, linked to the mystery of the Son and to his mission, is now indissolubly united to the mystery of the Church. She forms part of the Church as the most excellent member and as Mother, as the Second Vatican Council states.

The new coming of the Spirit upon her unites her even more to the Church, to the latter's communion and mission. It is not possible to think of the Church without Mary and of Mary without the Church.   The centrality of the Mother of Jesus in the midst of the disciples with the same flame of the Holy Spirit in an attitude of reception of the gift and of thanksgiving speaks to us of the "Marian profile" of the Church, where Mary represents the very essence of the Church: pure reception and transmission of the gift of God.  Mary is what the Church and every Christian should be, under the action of the Holy Spirit and in profound communion with everyone.

TOPICS: Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: blessedmother; bvm; holyspirit; mary; pentacost; queenoftheapostles; themotherofgod

1 posted on 05/24/2010 11:43:11 AM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 05/24/2010 2:35:32 PM PDT by johngrace
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To: Oratam

One of the best comments about the Blessed Mother, considering that often it is about her that the faith threads get argumentive.

4 posted on 05/25/2010 3:51:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: Gamecock; Oratam; Religion Moderator
I would say this constitutes "breaking the glass" of caucus status.

I'm just learning how this works, and the moderator had posted the "rules" to me previously, so in what way does this post break the caucus rules?

7 posted on 05/25/2010 4:57:27 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Gamecock; Oratam; Religion Moderator
It'a all explained here.

Ah yes, those are the same rules I've seen. To help me in my advanced degree studies in Forum rules at UFR, how does the post break those rules?

9 posted on 05/25/2010 5:04:56 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Gamecock; Oratam; Religion Moderator
I see, except for the If. There is no actual statement about beliefs of those not Catholic. It's just a supposition.

I know this sounds legalistic, but to me it seems like the rules here are like that. For example, you can post and make rude statements about my belief, which isn't considered making it personal, but your prohibited from commenting negatively about the way I convey my thoughts, which to me is much less personal than my beliefs. I'm trying to figure it all out.

11 posted on 05/25/2010 5:21:29 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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12 posted on 05/25/2010 5:59:13 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Al Hitan; Gamecock; Oratam; TSgt
This Religion Forum thread is labeled "Catholic Caucus" meaning non-Catholics are not to post on this thread.

A caucus can be broken (the thread made "open") if the beliefs of non-members are brought to the discussion. In the alternative, I can remove the offending post.

Oratam's post and the discussion of it was removed because it contrasted Catholic and non-Catholic belief concerning Mary - claiming the latter have difficulty with it. The non-caucus members would have had an interest in speaking for themselves, i.e. why they do or do not have "difficulty."

The matter is closed on this thread. Non-Catholics must leave the thread.

13 posted on 05/25/2010 6:35:57 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Thanks RM,

14 posted on 05/25/2010 6:37:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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15 posted on 05/25/2010 8:15:37 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus; Jvette; Mad Dawg; narses; Natural Law; dsc; Deo volente; Judith Anne; Petronski; ...

A very descriptive post. Thank you coleus

16 posted on 08/05/2010 8:55:24 AM PDT by Cronos (Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Allah": Satan's current status)
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Thank you for the ping to this post.

It is always a joy to see in words the profound connection Mary has to the Apostles and therefore the church. Yes, Mary is the only human being to have witnessed and participated in every facet of Christ’s earthly life. She is the first believer, the first disciple and the first to receive all the promised grace of God.

17 posted on 08/05/2010 12:48:57 PM PDT by Jvette
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18 posted on 06/19/2011 6:10:59 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.


19 posted on 06/19/2011 6:16:16 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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