Skip to comments.Jesuit head of Asian Catholic news agency criticizes transubstantiation (Catholic Caucus)
Posted on 05/25/2010 11:49:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480
Stating that Catholics can become fanatical about one form of the Body of Christ in the bread of the Eucharist as the REAL presence of Christ, Father Michael Kelly, the Jesuit CEO of the Asian Catholic news agency UCA News, criticized the doctrine of transubstantiation in a May 24 column.
In his column-- a critique of the new, more accurate liturgical translations that reflect the content and dignity of the original Latin-- Father Kelly writes:
Regrettably, all too frequently, the only Presence focused on is Christs presence in the elements of bread and wine. Inadequately described as the change of the substance (not the accidents) of bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, the mystery of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist carries the intellectual baggage of a physics no one accepts. Aristotelian physics makes such nice, however implausible and now unintelligible, distinctions. They are meaningless in the post-Newtonian world of quantum physics, which is the scientific context we live in today.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church, on the other hand, teaches:
The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation." (no. 1376)
(Excerpt) Read more at catholicculture.org ...
Just like 0bama: not even hiding his contempt for traditional values.
Aristotle’s philosophical distinction between substance and accident is timeless. Meanwhile, modern academia has become unintelligible.
I agree with him - transubstantiation is a completely illogical and silly dogma that reflects poorly on the world’s most rational faith (Christianity). It is an extra-Biblical tradition and, like most creations of men, only opens the faith up to prove their critics correct on something. Why put any value on superstitions and fantasies?
Thank you for your reasoned critique of a faith about which you know nothing. The beauty of the Church’s mysteries is beyond your little mind. Tell the guys at your Kingdom Hall about this.
Kingdom Hall??? What does that have to do with anything? FYI, I am NOT a Jehovah’s Witness, if that’s what you’re getting at, and I have three sons in Catholic School, so I may not be as completely ignorant as you think. As to the logic of it, I think it’s a doctrine that makes the entire faith look irrational with the notion that priests are performing a miracle that no one can see, touch, smell, or taste. As to the size of my mind, it’s at least big enough to know that bread stays bread, and that God doesn’t perform miracles on our demand. I still don’t know where you’re going with the Kingdom Hall comment...???
And I’m critiquing a DOCTRINE, not a faith.
Except for that Last Supper thingy where Jesus says "This IS My body, etc" and asks us to do this in memory of Him...
"This is my body which is given for you"
I have three sons in Catholic School, so I may not be as completely ignorant as you think. As to the logic of it, I think its a doctrine that makes the entire faith look irrational with the notion that priests are performing a miracle that no one can see, touch, smell, or taste.Why did you place your kids in the Catholic school system (do they believe in Transubstantiation?), if you don't believe in the source and summit of the faith. --CCC, #1324
This is a Catholic Caucus thread. Please read the Religion Moderator’s guidelines on his profile.