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Jesus Christ was baptized and “sealed” to Mary Magdelene (Mormon - Open)
Further Light And Knowledge ^ | June 1, 2010 | Helen Radkey

Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut

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To: reaganaut

lds “holy rollers”........really a laugh out loud moment.


151 posted on 06/02/2010 4:25:37 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: ejonesie22

Defame, malign and slander our savior and we get all out of sorts.

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And the fact that the LDS DON’T but DO get ‘all out of sorts’ if you defame their ‘CHURCH’, speaks VOLUMES about where their faith REALLY lies - in the ‘church’ not Christ.


152 posted on 06/02/2010 4:32:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Give them time.


153 posted on 06/02/2010 4:33:05 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

It is not impossible. To my knowledge, you don’t need a temple recommend to submit names for ordinances. And, even if you did, malicious people have lied to get temple recommends before, and have gone into the temple with the express purpose of hurting the Church. Surely, you are aware of those instances.


154 posted on 06/02/2010 4:34:18 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: reaganaut

I didn’t read the article. But the article, itself, acknowledges that the Church would not do this. FTA:

It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”

This, also, suggests that someone was acting maliciously.


155 posted on 06/02/2010 4:37:20 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer; reaganaut

I didn’t read the article
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Of course not

LOL


156 posted on 06/02/2010 4:40:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lady lawyer; reaganaut

This, also, suggests that someone was acting maliciously.
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Oh but sweety

Doing the “temple work” for the unsaved is a kindness...

Dead dunking and marrying guys to women is considered a necessary thing to do so the guy can become a “god” and go to the mormon afterlife ???

Would you really want the morm on jesus to miss out ???

after all only a mormon could have done it...

non-mormons dont have the access to the fool pool...

and Christians wouldnt do anything so blasphemous...

those anti-Christians, the mormons can get real malicious...

;)


157 posted on 06/02/2010 4:46:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JAKraig

The church may not have, but they did accept the records. Is there not some type of vetting process that would have prevented said “idiot” from being able to do this?

This also speaks to the mindset that many mormons have regarding the need to show that Jesus needed to be married and sealed to a wife so that the LdS doctrine of achieving celestial exaltation/godhood can be achieved and justified.


158 posted on 06/02/2010 4:49:16 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Saundra Duffy; reaganaut

The dig was against your leaders and prophets.


160 posted on 06/02/2010 4:52:18 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Saundra Duffy

If all you did was practice without trying to convert people then your argument would have a solid foundation. As it is, we can’t. We are obliged to inform folks of the heretical teachings of mormonism.

Recall the 52,000+ missionaries and then you will be “doing the same for us”.


161 posted on 06/02/2010 4:53:59 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: lady lawyer

I only was speaking of the nastiness of mormonism...

Dont kill the messenger...

I wasnt the one who “married” Jesus to a prostitute...

How nasty and blasphemous the mormons are...


162 posted on 06/02/2010 4:59:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
One thing that is always interesting is ‘attack the messenger’. Oh, wait it makes sense when there is zero defense of their blasphemy.
163 posted on 06/02/2010 5:00:49 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Well, have at it. If there are people who resonate to the type of discourse you constantly post here, they are people that the Mormon Church is better of without.


164 posted on 06/02/2010 5:02:27 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

i can’t imagine that anyone would be attracted to, or impressed by, your constant gratuitous nastiness.
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Meanwhile, believe it or not my warning lurkers of the nastiness of mormonism is paying off in salavations and escapes from the imprisonment of the cult that the son of perdition Joey Smith invented...

You might not be able to imagine that but Jesus has no trouble believing that...


165 posted on 06/02/2010 5:04:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JAKraig

Some organizations have more “idiots” than others..

Believing polygamy is necessary for godhood..heck believing god was a man and so YOU TOO can be a god.. says it all


166 posted on 06/02/2010 5:05:58 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: lady lawyer

Well, have at it.
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Kid i dont need your permission...

or havent you noticed ???

I already have the Commandment of Jesus to warn people about anti-Christian cults like mormonism...

and false prophets like the occultist and child rapist Joey Smith..


167 posted on 06/02/2010 5:06:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lady lawyer

If there are people who resonate to the type of discourse you constantly post here,
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Kid I would hope not...

I post mormon doctrines...

To expose the cult of mormonism for what it is ...Anti-Christian..

I hope nobody believes the religion that Joey Smith invented to cover his womanizing and stealing and cons and ego maniacal king of the world junk...

I want to bring them out of it so that they can escape the clutches of demonic beliefs that are anti God and Christianity and anti Chrsitian Bible...

I doubt if you can find any post from me where I attempted to entice anyone INTO the heresy...


168 posted on 06/02/2010 5:13:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ejonesie22

The eternal optimist you are...

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Oh, to have a good Yoda graphic...


169 posted on 06/02/2010 5:16:09 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39

Gee, check your next tithing slip for a new box to check off for “Offerings for the purpose of purchasing a computer genealogy program that is smart enough to catch the names of anyone famous enough to have over 100,000 hits on Google”.

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LOL.


170 posted on 06/02/2010 5:16:38 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: lady lawyer

If there are people who resonate to the type of discourse you constantly post here,
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Kid I would hope so...

I post Bible scriptures...

about the real Jesus and Christianity...

To show the contrast between the real thing...

and the false religion of Joey Smith...

mormonism is not Christianity...

and people in America have a right to know and the freedom to find out...


171 posted on 06/02/2010 5:16:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ZX12R

He was mimicking another freeper who frequents these threads.


172 posted on 06/02/2010 5:19:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39

sorry, did I ‘lose’ you again.

my bad, forgive me oh great one.


173 posted on 06/02/2010 5:20:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: greyfoxx39

you were on 2 out of 3, not bad really...


174 posted on 06/02/2010 5:21:06 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: lady lawyer

they are people that the Mormon church is better of without.
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Yes the mormon corporation doesnt need the added embarassment of people telling the truth about the falsehood of mormonism...

the heresy that is written in every mormon doctrine is more than enough...

and now the mormons have added the blasphemy of “marrying” Jesus who was never married, to a prostitute...

is there no end to the attacks on Jesus and Christianity by the anti-Christians, the mormons ???


175 posted on 06/02/2010 5:22:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lady lawyer

they are people that the Mormon Church is better of without.
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Dont look now kid...

But more people are escaping from the imprisonment of mormonisn than are joining...


176 posted on 06/02/2010 5:24:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: lady lawyer

If there are people who resonate to the type of discourse you constantly post here, they are people that the Mormon Church is better of without.
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Yeah mormonism doesnt know how to handle people who can think for themselves and refuse to be brainwashed by the pagan doctrines of the anti-Christians Joey Smith and Briggy Young


177 posted on 06/02/2010 5:27:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

I shall meditate upon your penance. ;)


178 posted on 06/02/2010 5:30:01 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (AZ Gov. Brewer to Obambi..."Bring on the lawsuit. I'm ready!")
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To: svcw

if Jesus told the truth then there was no need for restoration making the BoM invalid.
If Jesus lied then there was a need for restoration and the Bible is invalid.
LDS can not have it both ways.


179 posted on 06/02/2010 5:32:01 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: greyfoxx39

just don’t call a ‘council of love’. lol


180 posted on 06/02/2010 5:36:41 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Saundra Duffy

“Please leave us alone to practice our faith and we will do the same for you.”

1. the mormonic cult sends out 60,000 “missionaries” to attack Christians and try to ensnare them in the cult. Is that “leaving others alone?”

2. We are commanded to expose evil and evil workers. Mormonism fits that bill to a T.

3. We care about the future damnation of those who are caught up in mormonism. We are commanded to show them truth.

“goofy nonsense” can distract people from the truth.


181 posted on 06/02/2010 5:48:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You are correct. My Spirit weeps for lds, my flesh doesn’t care.


182 posted on 06/02/2010 5:49:23 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: colorcountry; Saundra Duffy
Seriously Saundra, I wonder how you could ever believe the stuff of Mormonism.

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183 posted on 06/02/2010 6:06:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; Saundra Duffy
Oh, by the way, Helen Radkey is some weirdo new-age freak and most certainly obsessed with trying to discredit The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

There is a LOT of that going around!

184 posted on 06/02/2010 6:16:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: reaganaut
And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:12-13

185 posted on 06/02/2010 6:18:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: svcw
Jedediah M. Grant, Second Counselor to Brigham Young, said: "The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based on POLYGAMY,…A BELIEF IN THE DOCTRINE OF A PLURALITY OF WIVES CAUSED THE PERSECUTION OF JESUS, and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons" (Mormon - Journal Of Discourses, Vol. 1, pg. 345-346)
186 posted on 06/02/2010 6:19:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: magritte; Godzilla; aMorePerfectUnion; Utah Binger; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; restornu
Is “the Seer” considered official LDS doctrine? I can’t find a reference to it as such....magritte

I can garandamntee ya that if The Southern Baptist Journal of Theology published something as damning as the SEER, the MORMONs would be all OVER it like stink on...

187 posted on 06/02/2010 6:23:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: seemoAR
The person listed as father isn’t the actual father.

So?

Who cares??

If we gets the NAME right, then the baptism for them WORKS!!

--MormonDude(at least that is what my bishop told me.)

188 posted on 06/02/2010 6:25:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: svcw

But... they DO have speaking in tongues as PROOF that they have ‘authority’; don’t they?


189 posted on 06/02/2010 6:26:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: lady lawyer
And, even if you did, malicious people have lied to get temple recommends before, and have gone into the temple with the express purpose of hurting the Church. Surely, you are aware of those instances.

So much for MORMON discernment!

190 posted on 06/02/2010 6:27:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Elsie

Sure (roll eyes). demons speak in tongues as well.


191 posted on 06/02/2010 6:27:55 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: ejonesie22; Saundra Duffy
So no, the LDS will not be left alone until it gives back what is not theirs.
192 posted on 06/02/2010 6:28:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: lady lawyer

Speedy's brother, Jesus, is VERY upset that the computer tossed HIS name out!

And, I hear that some of Flecther Christian's descendants weren';t too happy about THEIR results; either!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny_on_the_Bounty

193 posted on 06/02/2010 6:30:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: reaganaut

ok, HTML fail...hmm...


194 posted on 06/02/2010 6:32:19 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: lady lawyer
 

I can’t imagine that anyone would be attracted to, or impressed by, your constant gratuitous nastiness.

 

Oh, I don't know!

It seems to have persuaded quite a LOT of folks!



http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have done the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

 
 

195 posted on 06/02/2010 6:32:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: lady lawyer
Well, have at it. If there are people who resonate to the type of discourse you constantly post here, they are people that the Mormon Church is better of without.

AMEN!

Who needs these folks who have discovered the truth about our church, anyway?

--MormonDude(I'm still trying to learn what JS did about PRESBYTERIANism being UNTRUE.)

196 posted on 06/02/2010 6:34:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: Saundra Duffy

Please leave us alone to practice our faith and we will do the same for you.

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You have the power to recall ALL the LDS missionaries?!?! Wow.


197 posted on 06/02/2010 6:34:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Tennessee Nana
 

I hope nobody believes the religion that Joey Smith invented to cover his womanizing and stealing and cons and ego maniacal king of the world junk...

 

Only a foul ANTI would consider the Blessed Marriage Ceremony of MORMONs to be WOMANIZING!!!




 
 

                                         Decisions decisions!

 
Fanny Alger
Lucinda Morgan Harris
Louisa Beaman
Zina Huntington Jacobs
Presendia Huntington Buell
Agnes Coolbrith
Sylvia Sessions Lyon
Mary Rollins Lightner
Patty Bartlett Sessions
Marinda Johnson Hyde
Elizabeth Davis Durfee
Sarah Kingsley Cleveland
Delcena Johnson
Eliza R. Snow
Sarah Ann Whitney
Martha McBride Knight
Ruth Vose Sayers
Flora Ann Woodworth
Emily Dow Partridge
Eliza Maria Partridge
Almera Johnson
Lucy Walker
Sarah Lawrence
Maria Lawrence
Helen Mar Kimball
Hanna Ells
Elvira Cowles Holmes
Rhoda Richards
Desdemona Fullmer
Olive Frost
Melissa Lott
Nancy Winchester
Fanny Young
 
Emma Hale only!!
 
 

198 posted on 06/02/2010 6:36:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: reaganaut

Use the Farce; Luke - use the Farce.

199 posted on 06/02/2010 6:38:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: ejonesie22

Yeah, but all that is not “official” they were just “apostles” and “prophets”...

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And you can never trust a prophet.


200 posted on 06/02/2010 6:38:27 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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