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To: annalex

It is strange that you are prepared to completely ignore historical knowledge of the Church unless it is “backed by scripture”. The scripture was written to document the events surrounding the life and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the beginning of His Church. It was not written with the objective of giving us an encyclopedia of Christianity.


1) I do not need more than what is written in Gods’ Word for Salvation as far as I can tell.

2) What I mean’t was that I reject historical texts as being important for Salvation.

Sorry for the confusion.


15 posted on 06/14/2010 5:52:04 PM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 12 days.)
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To: Grunthor
I do not need more than what is written in Gods’ Word for Salvation

This looks like an empty slogan: something that sounds appealingly simple and upon examination, has no useful meaning.

First, it is not itself "written in Gods’ Word". It is an assumption one can make by reading in many places that the Scripture is very important, a necessary part in Christian education, inspired by God, useful in disputes. Also in many places we are told that faith in Jesus is necessary for salvation, and we obviously get that faith in great part from the Scripture. But nowhere does the Scripture say it with that simplicity as you said. The Scripture does not say "If something is not recorded in Scripture, it is not necessary for you to know", or "All that you need to know is in the Scripture". Christ Himself surely made refernce to common knowledge of His time (e.g. the disaster of the Tower of Siloe, Lk 13:4) and quoted things that are not in the Christian Scripture (John 7:38; Jude quotes from Enoch, Jude 1:14).

Second, you worry of the "necessary" as if there is any harm in the unnecessary. The scripture does not tell you "Find out what is necessary and discard the rest". In fact, Chirst tauight the exactly opposite attitude. For example, in the Parable of the Unprofitable Servant (Luke 17:10) He taught quite the opposite, -- that we should not stop after we have done what is "commanded of us". The Church does not say that prayers to the saints are strictly necessary (at the Eucharistic Prayer, Mary and saints are mentioned but not prayed to; at the Penitential Rite their prayers are asked thusly "I ask Blessed Mary ever virgin and all the angels and saints, and you my brothers and sisters to pray for me to the Lord our God"; at the saints' holidays no special prayer is said to the saint being celebrated). So let us say, you decide to avoid the private devotions to saints on that score. What feeling is driving you if not spiritual sloth? Why are you not curious how Mary ended her days; how Sts Peter and Paul died; how the Trinity doctrine get established; what errors the Church fell into and how they were corrected?

Thirdly, while the scripture does not say that only the Scripture is necessary for salvation, it described Christ giving enormous powers to the Apostolic Church to "bind and loose", forgive sins, baptize and teach (Mt 16:19, Mt 18:18 Jn 20:23, Mk 17:15-16, Mt 28:19-20). In neither of these commissions Jesus says "write a book and list everything in it". Why do you run away from the authority that the Church has?

17 posted on 06/15/2010 5:42:27 AM PDT by annalex
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