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Iowa City woman (not) ordained as a bishop
Daily Iowan ^ | 6/14/2010 | CATHRYN SLOANE

Posted on 06/14/2010 8:43:15 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: CharlesWayneCT

You beat me...


21 posted on 06/14/2010 9:14:31 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: nina0113

Back in the old days of “computer terminal rooms”, (to access the mainframe) some of us threatened that when folks left a terminal logged in we would send vile, offensive, and threatening email to that address from the unattended terminal.


22 posted on 06/14/2010 9:14:35 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
We need to know if it is a real or pretend bishop.

I'm guessing it's THIS pretend bishop:

“We’re growing very quickly, and the people are accepting us,” Roman Catholic Woman Bishop, Bridget Mary Meehan said.

23 posted on 06/14/2010 9:14:43 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: BlackElk

We of the TTGC stand ready to carry out our sacred duties.


24 posted on 06/14/2010 9:15:08 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BlackElk

You’re back! You’re back! How’s the hoof?


25 posted on 06/14/2010 9:15:11 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: ArrogantBustard
We of the TTGC stand ready to carry out our sacred duties.

Yeah, right, you don't even have a cigarette lighter. I can lend you mine.

26 posted on 06/14/2010 9:16:22 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

Come down to the Laboratory, and I’ll show you what we have ...


27 posted on 06/14/2010 9:18:21 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: markomalley
Notice the language the article uses: "She also pointed out that women were allowed to be ordained in the early history of the Catholic Church and said the modern Vatican policies are sexist."

By using "pointed out," rather than "asserted," the article itself seems to assert that the Catholic Church, indeed, did have womynpriests historically.

28 posted on 06/14/2010 9:26:26 AM PDT by dangus
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To: markomalley

I find it fascinating that there is a constant press “boom” for people holding and acting on bizarre beliefs.


29 posted on 06/14/2010 9:26:42 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: markomalley
This article meets pretty much every item on the standard checklist for "woman ordained" stories. I give it a 7.

It completely fumbles terminology (does this woman imagine that she is a priest or does she imagine that she is a bishop? the headline and the body of the article create confusion on this basic point).

Almost all "facts" in the article are in the form of quotes from the article's subject, rather than being externally verified.

The excommunicant in question is allegedly thoroughly loyal to the Catholic faith in all matters except her own mythical ordination.

There is allegedly broad-based support for her actions - hey, this thing is really catching on!

It's still not nealy as enjoyable a flight of fancy as the one I read a few months ago.

In that article, the subject claimed that after her "ordination" she went to receive communion in her local parish but the celebrant refused to communicate her. So, in her tale, hundreds of parishioners - in act of silent protest - received communion and broke their hosts in half, piling up hundreds of broken hosts in her hands as she sat in her pew.

The article did not mention whether one parishioner started slowly clapping until the whole nave was caught up in a standing ovation.

It also didn't reveal if she walked out of the church with the entire congregation behind her as a hair-metal anthem from the '80s filled the air.

30 posted on 06/14/2010 9:48:07 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: markomalley

As I understand, the rules, now she is not only not a priest, she’s not even a Roman Catholic anymore.


31 posted on 06/14/2010 9:56:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Iowa City can be like that.

I've been to Iowa City. I would say rather that human nature can be like that.

32 posted on 06/14/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: ottbmare

You havewn’t been to Iowa City unless you’ve been to Joe’s Place.


33 posted on 06/14/2010 10:02:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Nowhere in the article does it state WHO did the ordaining.

That's by design.

However it says that the "ordination was made possible by Roman Catholic Womenpriests."

That organization was founded by the seven women who were "consecrated" on a German riverboat in 2002 by Romulo Braschi, a former Catholic priest who became a Communist revolutionary in Argentina in the 1970s.

He was consecrated a bishop in 1998 more than 25 years after he left the Catholic Church by Roberto Padin, a member of the "Independent Catholic Church" of Brazil.

It is claimed by RCWP that Padin was consecrated by a Catholic bishop in communion with Rome, Solomon Ferraz, but Ferraz became a Catholic after he consecrated Padin - he was a former Presbyterian turned Independent Catholic at the time who had never been a Catholic.

Ferraz was consecrated by Carlos Costa, who at one point had been a Catholic bishop but had been excommunicated for a number of years before he met Ferraz.

Costa publicly proclaimed his disagreement with basic Catholic doctrinal principles and his heartfelt support of Soviet communism, which led to his excommunication.

This individual was likely "ordained" by one of the seven people on the boat.

34 posted on 06/14/2010 10:16:30 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake; Dr. Sivana
It's actually irrelevant in this case anyway. A female simply can not receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders. Period.

Please note the precise wording of Pope John Paul II's letter on the subject, Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994):

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

It is not that women may not receive it. It is not that bishops are prohibited from ministering it. It is that the Church has no authority from God to do so.

In other words, it simply is not possible.

So whether the individuals involved had the authority or not is irelevant; female "ordination" is about as nonsensical as homosexual "marriage."

35 posted on 06/14/2010 10:36:06 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: DuncanWaring
As I understand, the rules, now she is not only not a priest, she’s not even a Roman Catholic anymore.

Well, not really. If she was baptized a Catholic, she is a Catholic (unless the baptism was invalid). She may not partake in the public life of the Church until she has remedied the situation that has caused her excommunication, but excommunication does not render one a non-Catholic. Just one who may not participate in the Sacraments.

36 posted on 06/14/2010 10:38:19 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: DuncanWaring
By engaging in a mockery of a sacrament (Holy Orders, in this case), she has excommunicated herself.

The Bishop in Iowa should do us all a favour and formally take note of her new status.

37 posted on 06/14/2010 10:41:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
You havewn’t been to Iowa City unless you’ve been to Joe’s Place.

Or had pizza at Pagliai's or anything at Hamburg Inn 2!

38 posted on 06/14/2010 10:42:01 AM PDT by conservonator (How many times? 7X70!)
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To: wideawake
Well, that explains the validity of these women’s ordination - which is absolutely “zero”.
39 posted on 06/14/2010 10:47:16 AM PDT by mtg
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Bishop in Iowa should do us all a favour and formally take note of her new status.

Most of our Bishops (in Iowa) are to busy defending illegal immigration, consolidating parishes and raising funds (read: paying settlements) to worry about defending orthodoxy.

40 posted on 06/14/2010 10:47:33 AM PDT by conservonator (How many times? 7X70!)
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