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To: aruanan
There is nothing in any of these (or other) verses that says anything about a pre-trib rapture. I defy anyone to demonstrate this in a reading of the primary source texts. The only way is by a peculiar sort of logic that states , "If A equals B equals C equals D, then D equals A" while, throughout the process, shifting definitions here or there so things will appear to fit and assuming that "if" means the same thing as "since" or "because" without demonstrating it or, even worse, appealing to (misbegotten) authority ("Well, Grant Jeffries or 'a majority of Bible scholars' say so") ignoring the fact that "Bible scholars" is defined in such a way as to guarantee that a majority will already take for granted the issue still in question for which their "authority" is offered as proof.

Very good statement! Jesus will not pour out wrath on His people, but only on those who are not His: And I shudder for those people by knowing this.

31 posted on 06/18/2010 11:50:25 AM PDT by Ken4TA (Truth hurts, especially when it goes against what one believes.)
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To: Ken4TA
Very good statement! Jesus will not pour out wrath on His people, but only on those who are not His: And I shudder for those people by knowing this.

I am not sure what you mean by this. Clearly, God has poured out His wrath on His people. Just check out 2 Kings 21:10-15, very vivid description of God's Wrath.

36 posted on 06/18/2010 12:45:18 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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