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To: Ken4TA
When one reaches the top one will see the whole view - chapter 21-22, which completes the picture one sees as one ascends. Does that make any sense?

Yes, that's probably one way of looking at it. Rick Joyner’s The Quest has a similar theme, very powerful.

However, Jesus tells John that His revelation to John is about a timeline (Rev. 1:19). With care and the Holy Spirit's help, one can add the various "times” throughout the book to two divisions of 3 1/2 years each.

BTW, I wouldn't discount the Daniel's words out of hand here. Study closely what he's talking about in these passages. You have to back in time and in God's Word in Kings and Chronicles to the Babylonian captivity during the reign of Zedekiah, the last recorded king of Judah, and Jeremiah 25:11-12, and then count forward from the "command to restore Jerusalem unto Messiah the prince" (when Jesus first came as Savoir) (Dan 9:25). It has been shown to have been exactly 493 years in actual time or "sixty-nine weeks" in Daniel's prophetic time. So the measure here is one week equals seven years.

What about the seventieth week? Dan 9:27 reveals this last week and the broken covenant and abomination of the world ruler in the midst (halfway through) of the "week" (3 1/2 years). This maps exactly to 2 Thess 2:4 and more precisely to the events after Rev 11: 14 and in Matt 24:15-31 (the second 3 1/2 years - what Jesus called "the end").

37 posted on 06/18/2010 12:54:51 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216
However, Jesus tells John that His revelation to John is about a timeline (Rev. 1:19). With care and the Holy Spirit's help, one can add the various "times” throughout the book to two divisions of 3 1/2 years each.

Hmmm...maybe, maybe not. Jesus told John that what is prophecied in the book was to happen shortly, however, our vision of time certainly isn't God time sense. Thousands of years is as a day, and a day is as thousands of years to God. A question: where in the book would each 3 1/2 years be separated?

then count forward from the "command to restore Jerusalem unto Messiah the prince" (when Jesus first came as Savoir) (Dan 9:25).

Hmmm....where is Messiah called the "prince"? I read it that the after Messiah is "cut off", i.e., crucified, not for himself, but for those whose sins are to be forgiven is one thing; but it is "the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...". That prince is not Jesus, for he was already "cut of" in the first half of the week. The prince came 40 years later to destroy Jerusalem and the temple.

What about the seventieth week? Dan 9:27 reveals this last week and the broken covenant and abomination of the world ruler in the midst (halfway through) of the "week" (3 1/2 years). This maps exactly to 2 Thess 2:4 and more precisely to the events after Rev 11: 14 and in Matt 24:15-31 (the second 3 1/2 years - what Jesus called "the end").

Sorry, everything points to Jesus being "cut off" in the middle of the 70th week. Jesus confirmed the covenant for the full 70th week. 3 1/2 years during which he had his ministry, and 3 1/2 years under the ministry of the apostles to the Jews alone. Then Cornelius was converted and the New Covenant was fully in place - ALL who believed and obeyed the Gospel were added to the Kingdom proclaimed in the Gospel. That Kingdom is today being added to as people are converted to Christ from all the nations of the world.

What you say about Dan. 9:27 is chock full of esegesis, not exegesis. It's reading many things into it that are not said nor indicated. That's my take on what you said; sorry about that. Maybe you could expound on that paragraph to make it clearer?

45 posted on 06/18/2010 2:53:04 PM PDT by Ken4TA (Truth hurts, especially when it goes against what one believes.)
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