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The Dalai Lama on violence
Guardian UK ^ | 21 June 2010 | Andrew Brown

Posted on 07/11/2010 9:09:05 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: James C. Bennett

Sorry, but it is really easy... just do the right and honest thing. Yes, that means telling your interviewer that the job does not fit, or that you really don’t want that type of job... You are one of those that I would not have hired because of your attitude... and probably dishonest about it at that...

Have done so in the past and even in retirement continue to try to be as honest as I can...


81 posted on 07/12/2010 2:40:44 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: James C. Bennett

It’s only interesting to you because it is a foreign thought... That should actually disturb you a bit...


82 posted on 07/12/2010 2:45:08 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: James C. Bennett

If you’re honest, the Golden Rule will be abided without any thought...


83 posted on 07/12/2010 2:52:43 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Yes, ‘right thing’ and ‘honest thing’ are all fine and good, but you haven’t yet provided a scenario where doing either is completely independent of the Golden Rule.

You mentioned the point about the job interview. Even there, you choose to refuse to take up the job after having realised that you’d be a misfit, BECAUSE you are either afraid your incompetence will be found out, and get punished, or because you might cause serious damage to the company and its people, by making a mistake, both of which are completely governed by the Golden Rule even if you do not wish to acknowledge the same.


84 posted on 07/12/2010 9:31:36 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Deagle

What I hoped would be interesting was that I was expecting to get from you a situation where the Golden Rule failed. Nothing for me to be disturbed about, really.


85 posted on 07/12/2010 9:35:44 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Actually, the Golden Rule would always suffice also...so, relax and be nice to your friends... They are complimentary.


86 posted on 07/13/2010 9:03:42 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Exactly. I’d still continue to emphasise that it solely suffices, when it comes to moral choices one is confronted with.


87 posted on 07/13/2010 9:28:56 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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Heh, well it still depends upon your friends and what they thing is the Golden Rule... Seems it just might depend upon interpretation rather that doing what is right... Oh well, it almost always works... I think you are right in “your” decisions - it’s just that when you have to depend upon others, things go astray... Have a good one...


88 posted on 07/13/2010 10:47:15 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: James C. Bennett

When you have to depend upon yourself to make the moral choice, you can always make the wrong decision... There has to be a higher authority than yourself...


89 posted on 07/13/2010 10:51:03 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

I am honestly trying to find a situation where what you said applies. If you can come up with one, please share it with me, so that I can test if the Golden Rule can work on it, or fails completely.

Have a great day!


90 posted on 07/13/2010 11:18:13 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Deagle

I am honestly trying to find a situation where what you said applies. If you can come up with one, please share it with me, so that I can test if the Golden Rule can work on it, or fails completely.

Have a great day!


91 posted on 07/13/2010 11:18:13 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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It really does not matter (You are making a decision upon your beliefs of the Golden Rule) - you can NOT make those moral decisions on your own, otherwise we have a wild mix of decisions made by different people depending upon their own beliefs, yes? That is ultimately why moral decisions have to depend upon higher authority...


92 posted on 07/13/2010 11:35:22 PM PDT by Deagle
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The Golden Rule strongly tends to influence judgment towards the direction of altruistic behaviour, without providing much room for ambiguity. To that end, decisions made by applying the rule will not be too varied, if at all.


93 posted on 07/13/2010 11:40:37 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Sorry, that is way too optimistic. It will never be a universal standard and I think that you understand that. Think of applying the same rule in Iran? Enough of this banter... You and I both know that anytime people make the rules, it can never be sustained. Feel free to apply your logic to other discussions...


94 posted on 07/13/2010 11:46:05 PM PDT by Deagle
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The problem with Iran is precisely the fact that its people are ossified with a barbarian theology that prevents them from applying the Golden Rule both amongst themselves, and with others.

The fault in their ideology is that it is stuck on Old Testament morality, where archaic, tyrannical rules are allowed to dominate over any application of the Golden Rule. Hence such barbaric punishments as stoning, amputation and decapitation. It took Jesus to change that in the Middle East, with a basic philosophy which was the Golden Rule.

That said, I agree this has been a long, winding discussion amounting to not much.

Good day!


95 posted on 07/14/2010 2:30:01 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Yes, you are right there... and wrong on the validity of the discussion (you made many great points). It was a valid and interesting discussion. The outcome of both methods seem to be the same as long as civilized people are involved.

Thanks for the your input... Cheers...


96 posted on 07/15/2010 5:48:46 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Your insights were informative, too.

Thanks for the discussion!


97 posted on 07/15/2010 7:42:06 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Lorianne

98 posted on 07/15/2010 7:44:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: James C. Bennett

Thanks for that... you could have been much more definitive..heh... Have a great time with your philosophy..(not bad as it goes...wish all would abide actually)...

Enjoyed our discussion and wish you the best...


99 posted on 07/15/2010 7:50:10 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Thanks, and the same to you too, Deagle!


100 posted on 07/15/2010 10:37:09 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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