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Women's Ordination Conference: Vatican's 'scare tactics' appalling (Catholic Caucus)
Washington Post ^ | July 17, 2010

Posted on 07/17/2010 3:10:09 PM PDT by NYer

Today, Women's Ordination Conference (WOC) Executive Director Erin Saiz Hanna made the following statement in response to the Vatican's announcement that priests who sexually abuse minors, view child pornography, or sexually abuse mentally disabled adults, along with those who ordain women or women who attempt to be ordained, will now be included among the list of "delicta gravioria," or the most serious crimes against church law. The ordination of women is now classified as a "crime against the sacraments," which includes any action that defiles or desecrates the Eucharist.

The Vatican's decision to list women's ordination in the same category as pedophiles and rapists is appalling, offensive, and a wake-up call for all Catholics around the world. This new canonical declaration which names women's ordination as a serious crime against the Roman Catholic Church is medieval at best. The idea that a woman seeking to spread the message of God somehow "defiles" the Eucharist reveals an antiquated, backwards Church that still views women as "unclean" and unholy.

It is clear this recent decision was made out of fear of our growing numbers. The Vatican is using this attempt to extinguish the widespread call for women's equality in the church. In a statement published on May 29, 2008 in L'Observatorio Romano, the Vatican's official newspaper, all women who "attempt ordination" and the bishops who ordain them are automatically excommunicated, known as latae sententiae. Adding delicta gravioria as a scare tactic to already "excommunicated" women and the priests who support us is ridiculous and does not make a bit of difference. Excommunication will not work, and neither will this. In the face of one closed door after another, Catholic women will continue to make a way when there is none.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: emilyslist; lesbians; now; ordination; priesthood; proabortion; women

1 posted on 07/17/2010 3:10:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
We will continue to speak out. And women will continue to prophetically answer their call to priestly ordination with or without the Vatican's approval.
2 posted on 07/17/2010 3:13:56 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: NYer

If women voluntariuly seek excommunication, let them have at it.

Go somewhere else and stay away from Catholics.

We don’t want you.


3 posted on 07/17/2010 3:19:05 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

Run along and play dearies the grownups are busy.


4 posted on 07/17/2010 3:19:41 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer

Oh and that list is not new but we can not expect the raving lunatic womyn priestesses and the WP to know that, can we?

A crime against the Body of Christ whether in the sacrament of the Eucharist or in the sacrament of Holy Orders has always been a grave offense. And it is such an offense because it profanes a holy thing. Same goes for child abuse. To equate such abuse with the abuse of the sacrament does not belittle the victim. Instead it says the child too is of such importance that to degrade or harm him is along the same lines as profaning the sacred.


5 posted on 07/17/2010 3:23:14 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

LOL! I was just thinking they like to play dress up don’t they? Kind of pathetic being middle aged and still wanting to do that?


6 posted on 07/17/2010 3:23:48 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: NYer
Women are not right for the ordained priesthood. If you have to ask why, you wouldn't be capable of understanding the answer. So don't even.
7 posted on 07/17/2010 3:23:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer

10-15 years after you ordain women, you get gay marriage imposed in your christian religion.


8 posted on 07/17/2010 3:23:59 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: chris_bdba

Aren’t they just precious??


9 posted on 07/17/2010 3:25:51 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer
This new canonical declaration which names women's ordination as a serious crime against the Roman Catholic Church is medieval at best.

Thanks for the compliment.

10 posted on 07/17/2010 3:37:33 PM PDT by Argus
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To: NYer

Who is the author of this article?


11 posted on 07/17/2010 4:03:39 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Venturer
Go somewhere else and stay away from Catholics.

You are absolutely right but they view themselves as both 'victims' and 'pioneers'. They are not going anywhere. And ... the msm love nothing more than to post their lamentations in order to advance their personal agenda of slamming the Catholic Church.

12 posted on 07/17/2010 4:05:26 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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I can’t become a nun as a man, why are they so pissed they can’t become a priest? Get over it, missie. There’s a billion protestant sects where they can go and play house. They need to leave the Catholic Church.


13 posted on 07/17/2010 4:07:21 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: NYer
feh...
14 posted on 07/17/2010 5:07:40 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NYer

The individual in the article can harrumph all they like. No amount of posturing, nor further weaseling will cause the changes they wish. This has already been infallibly covered, and it will never change. If these people wish to excommunicate themselves, I am sorry to hear it, and both hope and pray that they use the time to reflect on what they’ve done wrong, and the steps they need to follow to fix this. No manner of devilment on their parts will accomplish the end they favor. The only end results are that they set themselves apart from Our Lord and the Church, and that, unfortunately, some others might be unduly influenced enough to follow those lost souls onto this terrible path. I really do hope that they see the errors of their ways.


15 posted on 07/17/2010 5:31:17 PM PDT by sayuncledave
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It's a good sign that they're getting so upset. The Holy See was nice and gave them many opportunities to straighten up - I guess they really thought they were cleverly insinuating themselves.

Forty years of this garbage is enough.

16 posted on 07/17/2010 5:38:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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There’s something about ordaining women that just gives me a sick stomach. I didn’t grow up with any bias one way or another about women leading churches, but after meeting a few of them in my middle age, I began to feel that there’s something so corrupted, and fetid about the whole thing...


17 posted on 07/17/2010 6:02:43 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: NYer

‘Excommunication will not work, and neither will this. ‘

Fine. Time for the Auto Da Fe.


18 posted on 07/17/2010 6:19:35 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: loboinok

‘Who is the author of this article?’

It is a press release from the heretics, printed verbatim by the Post.


19 posted on 07/17/2010 6:21:27 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: NYer
Start your own religion, Butch.
20 posted on 07/17/2010 7:00:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Gapplega
There's a billion protestant sects where you can go and play house.

But not at the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.

21 posted on 07/17/2010 7:09:07 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

You’re correct.


22 posted on 07/17/2010 7:41:24 PM PDT by Gapplega
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To: Judith Anne

My mother is a Presbyterian (PCUSA, the liberal branch ... although it wasn’t 35 years ago ;-), and she doesn’t like having women pastors. They have a woman associate at her church in Florida, and she gripes when it’s the woman’s turn to lead her Sunday service.

In the Navy, when I was growing up, the Chaplains of all denominations were men. They certainly wouldn’t have put a woman pastor on a deployed warship!


23 posted on 07/17/2010 8:34:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (There is no satire that is more ridiculous than the reality of our current government.~freedumb2003)
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To: NYer
You think the Pope's scare tactics are scary?

Try God's scare tactics.

24 posted on 07/17/2010 9:57:06 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: NYer

It is a crime against church law.

It just might be bad timing.


26 posted on 07/17/2010 10:45:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: NYer

“And women will continue to prophetically answer their call to priestly ordination ...”

If these women could see WHO is calling they would flee in terror!


27 posted on 07/18/2010 4:36:12 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Gapplega
I can’t become a nun as a man, why are they so pissed they can’t become a priest? Get over it, missie. There’s a billion protestant sects where they can go and play house. They need to leave the Catholic Church.

Not so fast there. Four days ago we had this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2552303/posts

28 posted on 07/18/2010 8:07:14 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: NYer
The problem with these folks is that they are actually members, who consider themselves Catholic, of something called the Women's Ordination Conference. Nothing like beating your head against the wall, huh?

If they truly want to ordain women, there is a denomination that allows that, and they'd be perfectly welcome there. They'd better hurry, though, because it's shrinking fast.

29 posted on 07/18/2010 9:56:19 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: verga

WOW~ JUST WOW. I’m speechless. lol.


30 posted on 07/18/2010 10:22:56 AM PDT by Gapplega
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