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To: OneWingedShark
Pastors don't preach about SIN anymore. Everything is "mistakes we've made" and doing feel good works.

Where is "For ALL have SINNED, and fall short"?

Where is "And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment"?

Too many churches are "seeker sensitive", and don't want to offend "seekers" by telling them that they are sinners and need a savior.

If people don't know they're sinners, why do they need a savior.

If people don't need a savior, whats the purpose of a "missions" trip to "bring Christ" to them.

Is this Christ a savior from sins, or just a feel good Kumbahya song leader?

13 posted on 07/27/2010 12:06:26 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I see that you perfectly see my assessment of what is missing from a [sadly large] portion of America’s ‘Christian’ church.
You can take Buddha out of Buddhism, you can take Confucius out of Confucianism, you can even [arguably] take Mohammad out of Islam, but you cannot take Christ out of Christianity: He is the ‘cornerstone,’ if we were talking about arches He would be the keystone (the piece on which the whole structure is dependent).

Jesus’s purpose was to reunite man (who is/was sinful*) with God (who cannot abide the abhorrence and evil of sin). The act of that reconciliation is utterly insane when considered by human standards: The Timeless, Infinite, Powerful, Life-giving and Unassailable God, seeing that sin and Righteousness cannot co-exist, decided that He loved us so much that “If someone is going to die, it’s going to be me.” And so He died.

*I say “is/was” because the conflict of describing time and eternal/timelessness can get in the way of understanding the underlying for some people. When God said that we are a ‘new creation’ He means it and we ARE... but right now we’re ‘trapped in time’ with an odd warring between already & not-yet; this is [I believe] Paul’s observation about “seeing things darkly, as in a glass.”

Now, the story would be rather sad if it just ended there with God dead and man left on his own against a uncaring universe and a host of malevolent angels. That’s not what happened, thank God, instead He overcame His own death and lives *now*. {All three ‘persons’ of God claim responsibility for the Resurrection of Jesus: the Father, the Holy Spirit, and [Jesus] the Son.} And, as a *living* savior, Jesus Himself, intercedes as High-priest between God and man... and *that* is very good news indeed.

14 posted on 07/27/2010 12:36:56 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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