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Love-Parade at Duisberg Ends in Tears
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 07/27/2010 | Tancred

Posted on 07/28/2010 10:17:16 AM PDT by 0beron

Editor: So far, there hasn't been a lot of coverage of this event in the USA and little mention was made of the explicit and decadent nature of the event, except on some conservative German Catholic news blogs, but there are others who see it correctly, as Kathnet reports:

[Kath.net] "Welcome to the sexiest party in the world!" wrote "Bild" still on 23 July, the day before the Love-Parade in Duisburg. Instead of sexiness, journalists are coming to describe it in terms of biblical decine after the mass panic with 19 dead and hundreds of injured. "Hell at the Love-Parade", wrote the Wochenzeitung Die Zeit.

And Evan Herman, christian publicist and television moderator, felt herself reminded of "Sodom and Gomorrha." The Old Testament history (Genisis 19:28) went that God destroyed both cities because of the sinful deeds of their inhabitants; only Lot and his daughter were saved in the minute.

(Excerpt) Read more at eponymousflower.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: culture; decline; liberalism
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1 posted on 07/28/2010 10:17:20 AM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron

God will not be mocked.


2 posted on 07/28/2010 10:26:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: 0beron

Europen coverage plenty.

Irish Times, for example:
Chancellor Angela Merkel expects a “scrupulously thorough” investigation into the tragedy, her spokesman Ulrich Wilhelm said in Berlin. Authorities earlier raised the number of injured to 511, including 43 seriously hurt, one in critical condition.

“I warned them a year ago that Duisburg is not a suitable location for the Love Parade. It’s too small and too cramped,” said Rainer Wendt, a senior police officer and head of the national police union”

Death toll now 20 - worst rock concert ever.....


3 posted on 07/28/2010 10:26:39 AM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: ASOC
Death toll now 20 - worst rock concert ever.....

I dunno, Great White still holds the record.

4 posted on 07/28/2010 10:28:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; ASOC

Well, it’s definitely the worst tragedy in the history of electronic music.


6 posted on 07/28/2010 10:38:07 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Well, it’s definitely the worst tragedy in the history of electronic music.

I thought that was Kraftwerk. ;)

7 posted on 07/28/2010 10:41:32 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: wideawake

Other than doing a Google search on each one of these “styles”, i.e., “Ibiza trance, classic Detroit techno, classic Chicago house, Cologne minimal house and Berlin dub techno, Rotterdam gabber hardcore, Madrid industrial and Frankfurt noisecore”, is there a single source that might explain them. I don’t live or move in those circles and haven’t a clue as to what they are or mean. I did see a German video showing aerial shots of the Duisberg debacle and it looked decidedly decadent.


8 posted on 07/28/2010 10:43:30 AM PDT by miele man
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To: miele man
Other than doing a Google search on each one of these “styles”, i.e., “Ibiza trance, classic Detroit techno, classic Chicago house, Cologne minimal house and Berlin dub techno, Rotterdam gabber hardcore, Madrid industrial and Frankfurt noisecore”, is there a single source that might explain them.

Interestingly, I would say that there isn't a good online site because (1) the scene is so "in the know" that there is no real site for beginners that's reliable and (2) even Wikipedia is not overly helpful because there are so many wars in the editing over what belongs where.

The Rough Guide series had a good book about it, but it's out of print and out of date.

Suffice it to say that electronic music is very dependent on dance clubs and the DJs that perform sets in those clubs. Scenes coalesce around specific clubs in specific cities where certain varieties of the music become very popular.

The main centers of electronic music today are NYC, London, Berlin, Cologne, Rotterdam, Frankfurt and Barcelona.

But plenty of cities used to have very vibrant scenes: Chicago, Detroit, Bristol, Madrid, Paris, Ibiza (a Spanish resort area) and others have smaller scenes.

One major variety is trance - dreamy, blissed out and undulating (particulary popular in Spain, France and Italy - also know as chillout or lounge techno).

Then there are the various varieties that end in "core" that are characterized by fast, pounding 4 on the floor beats, up to 220 beats per minute (very popular in Holland and parts of Germany and parts of the UK).

Then there are the reggae/dancehall influenced genres that are characterized by "broken" non 4/4 rhythms like trip hop, drum'n'bass, jungle, garage, 2-step, grime, UK funky and dubstep (all very popular in the UK).

Also there are the minimal styles like minimal house, ambient, glitch, "clicks and cuts" and dub techno that are generally mid-range 4/4 characterized by clean production and precise and spacious sounds (very popular in Germany).

There are a hundred other styles, some of which are defunct but considered classic, and others which branch out into more organic, non-electronic styles like acid jazz, neofunk, afrobeat revival, etc.

I did see a German video showing aerial shots of the Duisberg debacle and it looked decidedly decadent.

The bulk of the parade is essentially a decadent gathering in the sense of an American spring break - a lot of drunk young women in bikinis.

The counterparade is decadent in the sense of a Gay Pride Parade afterparty in San Francisco and we'll leave it at that.

10 posted on 07/28/2010 11:20:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: 0beron; Admin Moderator
Is there some new rule I was unaware of?

I blocked out the profanity - which was the name given to the actual event by its organizers.

That post contained information that was germane to the thread - could it be restored in an edited version?

11 posted on 07/28/2010 11:24:22 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum where all potty language - including references to potty language - are removed.

And yes, go ahead and repost without the reference. If you need to see it, let me know and I'll Freepmail it to you.

12 posted on 07/28/2010 11:28:59 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum where all potty language - including references to potty language - are removed.

I see. That makes more sense.

I'll repost.

13 posted on 07/28/2010 11:30:19 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: 0beron
Edited repost of post 5:

The history of the Love Parade is complicated: it has been banned under the auspices of the Green Party in the past and it is counterprotested by a movement called the [expletive deleted].

The organizers of the [expletive deleted] are angry because the Love Parade organizers promote their favored varieties of electronic music (Ibiza trance, classic Detroit techno, classic Chicago house, Cologne minimal techno) and exclude the counterprotestors' favorite styles (Rotterdam gabber, Madrid industrial, Frankfurt noisecore).

On, and 0beron, regarding your Weimar statement - some of this music is designed solely for use in debauchery, but a lot of it is art music.

There is as much variety in electronic music as there is in rock.

14 posted on 07/28/2010 11:41:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: circlecity

God will not be mocked.
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People have died en masse in churches too, in earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, bombings, massacres...


15 posted on 07/28/2010 12:03:00 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: circlecity

God will not be mocked.
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People have died en masse in churches too, in earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, bombings, massacres...


16 posted on 07/28/2010 12:03:07 PM PDT by heartwood
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"People have died en masse in churches too, in earthquakes, tornadoes, fires, bombings, massacres..."

Yep, God works in many ways.

17 posted on 07/28/2010 12:34:34 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Good point - so now the US is #1?


18 posted on 07/28/2010 2:43:16 PM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: wideawake

LOL

It was gone long before this....

Actually, rock music ceased to be ‘cool’ 9 Aug, 1995.


19 posted on 07/28/2010 2:45:30 PM PDT by ASOC (Alpha India Alpha Three Tango Alpha)
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To: wideawake

Thank you for your thorough answer. I appreciate it. It surely is an alien world for me.


20 posted on 07/28/2010 7:46:44 PM PDT by miele man
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