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Evangelical Exodus [Michael Voris video]
You Tube / Real Catholic TV ^ | 8-21-10 | Michael Voris

Posted on 08/21/2010 9:46:08 AM PDT by mlizzy

Catholics aren't the only ones seeing the youth desert them. But Catholics are the only ones who can reverse the process.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; convert; evangelicals; freformed; generationchurch; generationy; rctv; trends; voris; vortex
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To: mlizzy

“Catholics are the only ones who can reverse the process.”

Bull.

As a kid religion was forced upon me. In my 20’s I left my church with no intention of going back. In my 30’s I returned to Christ. I am not now nor have I ever been a Catholic.

The Catholic Church in my town has about 100 parishioners.

The YOUTH GROUP at my charismatic/Protestant church has 120 to 130 kids ranging in ages from 12 to 24.

The kids run the music/worship program. They run the A/V systems. They run the summer camp. We keep them very involved. I believe that the activities, grounded in faith in Christ keep these kids interested in attending and out of trouble.

I am not and cannot speak of every denomination of Christianity, just what I see in my town and more specifically in my church. Things are looking really good lately.


21 posted on 08/21/2010 12:10:48 PM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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To: Grunthor

You wrote:

“The YOUTH GROUP at my charismatic/Protestant church has 120 to 130 kids ranging in ages from 12 to 24.”

Oh, and your town equals the world? Sheesh!


22 posted on 08/21/2010 12:21:05 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Grunthor
The kids run the music/worship program. They run the A/V systems. They run the summer camp. We keep them very involved. I believe that the activities, grounded in faith in Christ keep these kids interested in attending and out of trouble.
We have a small Bible church in our neighborhood, and they draw scores of kids for their summer camp, many not from their church. Our own daughter (we're Catholic) attended for some 5-6 straight summers. The kids and parents were unbelievable. They all worked so hard to make for a wonderful Christian experience.

But should these kids stray and happen upon the many paths of sin that are offered today, it's the Catholic faith that has the Body to save them, the True Body of Christ. Most Christians would come running if they knew Jesus was back in town. That's what the Catholic Church offers through the Most Holy Eucharist (He never left!), and if you quizzed reverts, that would probably be the main reason they gave as to why they came back to the Catholic Church.

Catholics [please] Come Home
23 posted on 08/21/2010 12:53:13 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

I disagree. I don’t begin to believe that the Catholics are the only ones who can turn it around. That expresses a very narrow view of what is actually going on in the evangelical church...very narrow, and a bit biased!


24 posted on 08/21/2010 2:33:40 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: mlizzy
I would like to caution Roman Catholics that they should not lump all Protestants into one, big, monolithic group. What Michael Voris is describing are these non-denominational, pop culture, mega-churches. There is nothing Protestant about them. There are also several forms of Protestantism, such as the conservative and radical forms. The one thing that Protestants and Catholics have in common is that we are losing the youth at an alarming rate.
25 posted on 08/21/2010 7:19:57 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: vladimir998
Ok, Nimrod.

Let me explain something to you in small words so you might understand: Just because you don't understand what I post, does not mean I should feel any obligation (that means requirement) to post something according to your dictates.

No wonder you're at home in the Catholic Church.

Now, IF you've been able to find salvation hidden among the baloney of your beloved religion, I'll see you in eternity.

If not, this is goodbye forever.

26 posted on 08/21/2010 7:38:52 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

You wrote:

“Ok, Nimrod.
Let me explain something to you in small words so you might understand: Just because you don’t understand what I post, does not mean I should feel any obligation (that means requirement) to post something according to your dictates.”

You seem to have a great deal of difficulty understanding basic concepts. I never said - nor even implied - that you were under any obligation to post “something according to [my] dictates.” I said you seem unable to make a rational argument.

“No wonder you’re at home in the Catholic Church.”

No wonder you seem unable to make a rational argument.

“Now, IF you’ve been able to find salvation hidden among the baloney of your beloved religion, I’ll see you in eternity.”

Not at the rate you’re going you won’t. There is no baloney in my beloved religion. My religion comes from Christ and the Apostles. People unable to make rational arguments come up with baloney.

“If not, this is goodbye forever.”

I doubt it.


27 posted on 08/21/2010 7:50:02 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Nosterrex

You wrote:

“There is nothing Protestant about them.”

Except sola scriptura and sola fide.


28 posted on 08/21/2010 7:51:38 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

Obviously, it’s well past time for you to GET A LIFE.


29 posted on 08/21/2010 7:56:45 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: hinckley buzzard
... the induction of an emotional experience as an end in itself is a dead end.

Like, say, the emotional experience people get walking into a majestic Roman Catholic church? Or when they hear a cantor sing in Latin? Or the goosebumpy feeling people get pondering the supposed ancientness of Rome, and supposed unbroken lineage back to Jesus' friend Peter?

In the end, it's not about Roman Catholicism or any other denomination. It's about Christ, our Savior.

30 posted on 08/21/2010 8:04:50 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge; Mrs. Don-o

Twenty years ago there was no mention of anything social justice wise.

And I think much of what we read in the media interprets Catholic actions in this way because that’s the broad path that the world is taking.

Mrs. Don-o has a good take on the USCCB — Catholic Bishops in the U. S. and the real Catholics like us. Maybe she will address your issue.


31 posted on 08/21/2010 8:12:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Yes I agree Uri’el,....there was a time when churches were for believers....we came to worship and be taught the things of God to prepare us to “Go out” into the world. But then we began inviting unbelievers to church who were not saved...many saw a good thing to be a part of but were never truly converted. Thus the “world” has infiltrated the church to such a degree that it has the divisions, the corruption and the losses we see happening today.

Catholic, Protestant and mainline churches are all facing divisions within...not one is exempt. It is a full blown attack on the whole body of believers...not any one denomination...but you can bet they will go after where the monies are the largest.

32 posted on 08/21/2010 8:14:23 PM PDT by caww
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Obviously it’s well past time for you to GET A CLUE.


33 posted on 08/21/2010 8:15:11 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: mlizzy
Magazine: Growing Trend--Evangelicals ‘Crossing the Tiber’ to Catholicism
34 posted on 08/21/2010 8:17:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww

“Catholic, Protestant and mainline churches are all facing divisions within...not one is exempt. It is a full blown attack on the whole body of believers...not any one denomination...but you can bet they will go after where the monies are the largest.”

Well said. We need to support and give each other strength. We’re in a battle. I see some posters here posting revisionist untruths about the Catholic Church that the left and Islam use to weaken us as a Body.


35 posted on 08/22/2010 1:30:48 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: Theo
The problem with the push for emotional experiences is the counterfeits, and in some cases the demonic, cannot be distinguished by those unfamiliar with Gods word. Further people then base what is true on their experiences rather than on Christ.

An example are those “Spiritual” experiences with ‘Holy Spirit Laughter and Drunkenness”...and the uncontrollable head-shaking ad twisting which has infiltrated churches.....this “display” is the same out of control experiences Hindus experience thru Kundalini..or the touch from a Hindu Priest....thrashing about etc....it's an impostor/counterfeit holy spirit...not from God.

36 posted on 08/22/2010 5:05:21 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Hm. I haven’t seen the “head-shaking ad twisting which has infiltrated churches” for over a decade. Is that taking place now?

Are you familiar with Jonathan Edwards’ “Treatise on Religious Affections” ( http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/affections.html )? He addressed these unusual emotional expressions ... which were taking place in the 1700s! :-)


37 posted on 08/22/2010 6:24:28 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Salvation
The, um, the Tiber is a river in Rome, right? Ah, Rome. May people not cross the Tiber to Rome, but through the cross come to Christ.

Always preaching Rome, you are, at the expense of exalting Christ.

38 posted on 08/22/2010 6:33:01 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo

Yes..it continues in the churches today....apparently still infilitrating the Charismatic/Pentecostal churches but also some of the independant churches. Several who promote this are the TV Evangelists and those who draw the masses at various “revival” meetings.

My point is there are many counterfeits and people get ‘caught up” in the emotional experiences...which are for the most part what is happening to them personally...so the focus is off Christ and onto the persons and what they are experiencing. This makes their faith based on themselves and what they perceive as a physical manifestation of Gods Spirit when in fact how do they know it’s not a counterfeit?


39 posted on 08/22/2010 6:53:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: vladimir998
I would to God that these groups did hold to Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide. Most of them are Sola Mulla and Sola Mea.
40 posted on 08/22/2010 1:53:22 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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