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My Muslim President Obama: Why members of the Islamic faith see him as one of the flock.
Forbes ^ | February 25, 2009 | Asma Gull Hasan

Posted on 08/21/2010 11:30:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I know President Obama is not Muslim, but I am tempted nevertheless to think that he is, as are most Muslims I know. In a very unscientific oral poll, ranging from family members to Muslim acquaintances, many of us feel, just as African-Americans did for the non-black but culturally leaning African-American President Bill Clinton, that we have our first American Muslim president in Barack Hussein Obama.

I know it's odd to say this. At first, I thought I was the only Muslim engaging in this folly, and I am reluctant to express it lest right-wing zealots try to use "Muslim" as a smear and cite my theory as proof of an Islamic traitor in the White House or some such nonsense. But, since Election Day, I have been part of more and more conversations with Muslims in which it was either offhandedly agreed that Obama is Muslim or enthusiastically blurted out. In commenting on our new president, "I have to support my fellow Muslim brother," would slip out of my mouth before I had a chance to think twice.

"Well, I know he's not really Muslim," I would quickly add. But if the person I was talking to was Muslim, they would say, "yes he is." They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad's own approach, and also Obama's middle name, Hussein. Most of the Muslims I know (me included) can't seem to accept that Obama is not Muslim.

Of the few Muslims I polled who said that Obama is not Muslim, even they conceded that he had ties to Islam. These realists said that, although not an avowed and practicing Muslim, Obama's exposure to Islam at a young age (both through his father and his stint in Indonesia)

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1 posted on 08/21/2010 11:30:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, for a man who canceled National Prayer Day, this picture should come as quite an embarrassment:

http://willswordsofwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/obama-at-islam-prayer1.jpg


2 posted on 08/21/2010 11:32:45 PM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama has won the “Best practitioner Award of Al Taqiyaa of the Year”

The Muslims are terribly proud of him of course, he has masterfully lied his way into being POTUS.


3 posted on 08/21/2010 11:33:55 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s a cultural Muslim, the way someone like me is a cultural Catholic—I left the church but still have the connection in many ways.

His 20 years in Rev. Wright’s church (where he’d have us believe he slept through every sermon, I guess) show his real religion is the Marxist/Black Liberation creed. Marxism has been combined with all kinds of ideas—including Islamic ones—into this kind of loose idea of “black freedom.”

Obama attended Wright’s church because of the need to be part of the culture, so he’d be seen as “one of us” by his constituents when he was a community organizer.

Were he a Muslim he wouldn’t have said the “clinging to guns and religion” line. He believes in some of what Islam says, some of what Christianity says, but don’t tell me you’re a Christian but take 18 months to NOT find a church where you can worship.

He’s an atheist (says this atheist) who has a strong emotional and cultural connection/bias toward black Muslims. His true feelings are obvious—watch how he talks about Islam, and then how he talks about Christianity, if you can find him doing so. He invited gays to the White House Easter event, but not to the Muslim one—pretty obvious who he wants to kiss up to and who he wants to tick off.

Muslims see him as one of the flock because in the political part of the Islamic world—the one we have to worry about most—he basically IS a Muslim, for all intents and purposes. He’s got their back, he FEELS connected to them, even if he doesn’t believe in their religion. It’s an important distinction, and in the end it means he’s on their side.


4 posted on 08/21/2010 11:37:52 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She wrote a very good article, it was extremely informative, and seemed clear eyed and honest.


5 posted on 08/21/2010 11:40:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quite a coup on Obama’s part: He’s got the Blacks, the Muslims, the liberals, the pro-aborts, the environmentalists, the illegal aliens, the goat cheese and kale eaters all thinking he is one of them.


6 posted on 08/21/2010 11:41:51 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He may have deep Moslem sympathies, especially for the Mullahs in Iran. But his real religious roots are with the Reverend Wright. It was from him that Obama got the title for his autobiography, written after no accomplishments. It was also from him that he absorbed and became a devout anti-American Democrat. It’s this “religious” background that motivates his indifference to his country’s national interests and its people. As a typical elitist, Obama’s only real concern is for himself. He will do what it takes to get elected, but cannot connect with the majority of Americans because they’re alien to him. But the mad mullahs in Iran, wacky Imams in the US, the Ayers, and black racist separatists share Obama’s prejudices and his disdain for the US. Obama wants to be to the US what Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union. He wants to be the president that humbled the US. That’s why he’s comfortable with Chavez and Castro too. He shares their hopes.


7 posted on 08/21/2010 11:44:34 PM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

WOW, what a picture!


8 posted on 08/21/2010 11:46:19 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: All

He’s a Muzzie.

Go to The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com/index.htm
by Beckwith.

Read the ‘Religion’ section:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaReligion.htm

and ‘Islam’:
http://www.theobamafile.com/_Islam/ObamaIslamIndex.htm

The United States Library of Congress has selected
TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection
of Internet materials.
http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

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9 posted on 08/21/2010 11:47:58 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” ... They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad’s own approach ... “

It’s all in the eye of the beholder!


10 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: ImperialistDaddy

!!!!!! where & when?


11 posted on 08/21/2010 11:48:45 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: patriot08

I spent many days reading all that they have posted there, I cannot recommend it enough to people that want to know who this person is, they may not have every single fact but they sure come close.

I have used their website for posting many times the last couple of years.


12 posted on 08/21/2010 11:51:23 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Slyfox

Yeah, he is quite a con-artist to have them all thinking he is their man. Funny thing is, he has China telling him how economies work and should be run and he has Mikey Moore telling him to get with the program. Is there nothing Obama stands for alone? He won’t stand up to terrorists. He won’t stand up to town hall meetings. He won’t stand up to conservative media. He won’t stand up to his wife when she doesn’t let him smoke a simple cigarette. I am convinced the coward was born on his knees, and of course he doesn’t seem to be doing any praying while he has down there. So, down there he stays. Lol!


13 posted on 08/21/2010 11:56:29 PM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"One realist Muslim ventured that Obama worships at a Unitarian Church because it represents the middle ground between Christianity and Islam, incorporating the religious beliefs of the two faiths Obama feels connected to."

So, then, he is not a Christian since Uniatrists deny the divinity of Christ and the Triniatrian God.

14 posted on 08/21/2010 11:58:18 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Slyfox
Quite a coup on Obama’s part: He’s got the Blacks, the Muslims, the liberals, the pro-aborts, the environmentalists, the illegal aliens, the goat cheese and kale eaters all thinking he is one of them

Yup, that's his umma.

15 posted on 08/22/2010 12:02:13 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

I had a thought, Obama is like a piece of welding rod, he is a consumable used to weld two pieces together, like Islam and Marxism.

And that is what we call it in the trade, and welding requires a flux or shield gas, Obama has Al Taqiyaa Islamic teachings which is the flux, to lie, to manipulate, to deceive in order to mix different cultures or rather trying to bond them permanently.

However welds are usually brittle and will break at the joint, especially if dissimilar metals are being used like cast iron and steel.

Islam is an unacceptable metal to be welded to our steel, the weld will not hold, it will fail, and will damage both pieces. Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, that we should not forget. He cannot be removed simply by being a Muslim, but he can for other reasons.


16 posted on 08/22/2010 12:06:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think Barry is thinking twenty years down the road when there are enough Muslims in the US to elect a president. I don't think he ever wanted more than a single term in order to get the sort of base he'll have when he's out of office to build foundations and other infrastructure to help build “understanding” in preparation for the election of a Muslim president. Anything he can do to put the economy under the control of the executive branch is a step in the right direction as far as Islamic governance is concerned, hence all of his ‘socialist’ pretensions are just a good front for his real goals.

Regards

17 posted on 08/22/2010 12:07:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: ImperialistDaddy
When I went back to college, I had to read Aristotle and Aquinas. I learned all about virtue and vice. Especially this fine tidbit:

Virtue is the mean (middle) and on one side of virtue is the vice. The other side of the virtue is another vice which "appears" to be a virtue.

For example, the virtue of courage has as its vice cowardice. But, the "apparent" virtue (masking itself as a virtue) is a version of boldness, which is intended to make it "appear" that the person is displaying courage when he really isn't. Sort of like the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz growling loudly when he was anything but courageous.

Obama has got this "apparent" virtue thing down pat. That is why he has so many people fooled into thinking he is a great, great man.

18 posted on 08/22/2010 12:22:09 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Muzzbama.


19 posted on 08/22/2010 12:29:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh boy! You are who you hang out with! His name is Muslim how is that for starters? His father was a Muslim. He went to a Muslim school!


20 posted on 08/22/2010 12:31:46 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: elhombrelibre

“Obama wants to be to the US what Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union.”

A very significant statement. It opens the door to all sorts of possibilites. Gorbachev the initiater has Europe, B Hussein Obama competing for Asia, and Hillary the Americas. They’re selling us out and devastation will be
incalcable.


21 posted on 08/22/2010 1:01:16 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bottom line - He’s anti-America.


22 posted on 08/22/2010 1:08:47 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Bhoy

I actually originally saw this pic in email and looked it up for my post on this thread. This was sometime shortly after he canceled Prayer Day in the US.


23 posted on 08/22/2010 1:55:39 AM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: Eye of Unk

The big thing that may be to his undoing is he does not realize what he needs. If he were a more clever crook, he would realize he needs to get re-elected. I have to think he doesn’t plan on that happening. He is like the kamikaze diving down on the aircraft carrier. He knows his presidency is going to die.


24 posted on 08/22/2010 2:08:23 AM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: Slyfox

Yes, making himself look good may be his greatest and only skill.


25 posted on 08/22/2010 2:10:03 AM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: ImperialistDaddy
If he were a more clever crook, he would realize he needs to get re-elected. . . .He knows his presidency is going to die.

But what is his horizon? It sure isn't 2012, and it isn't 2016. What is this guy looking down the road toward?

After he has crushed the U.S. economically, is his goal to align the U.S. with the world judicially (which could explain the Muslim outreach)?

If that happens, will he be arcing toward a more powerful world-level leadership position?

Or does he just want a really cool library to honor the successes of the first African-American POTUS?

26 posted on 08/22/2010 2:37:50 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Rashputin

He brought the entire census program under the White House as one of his very first acts as POTUS.


27 posted on 08/22/2010 2:44:09 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: ImperialistDaddy

“The big thing that may be to his undoing is he does not realize what he needs. If he were a more clever crook, he would realize he needs to get re-elected. I have to think he doesn’t plan on that happening. He is like the kamikaze diving down on the aircraft carrier. He knows his presidency is going to die.”

A caller to the Michael Savage show compares Obama to the 9/11 pilots who went to flight school only to learn how to fly, not the land. The caller believes he’s on a mission to crash the U.S. His actions so far support such a hypothesis.


28 posted on 08/22/2010 2:48:27 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

A caller to the Michael Savage show compares Obama to the 9/11 pilots who went to flight school only to learn how to fly, no to land. The caller believes he’s on a mission to crash the U.S. His actions so far support such a hypothesis.


29 posted on 08/22/2010 2:50:33 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reaching out to critics????????? With a sledgehammer!!!!


30 posted on 08/22/2010 3:38:22 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Darkwolf377
(where he’d have us believe he slept through every sermon, I guess)

I would like to see much of Zero's unavailable record. I would add to that list his donations to the church and if at all possible his attendance record. This to me was one of his first lies.

31 posted on 08/22/2010 3:52:24 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He Claims to be a Christian now, but I don't believe him.

He admits to studying the Koran in "Dreams of my Father" (or should that be "Nightmares of my fatwa")

His Grand father was practicing Muslim and his father was of Muslim descent, therefore according to Sharia law he is by birth ..... a Muslim

At best he is an agnostic

32 posted on 08/22/2010 4:04:19 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know President Obama is not Muslim,

I stopped reading right there. I am sick and tired of the Coup-supporting hacks making this unfounded assertion.

There is more evidence that he is a Muslim than there is for him being an American.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

33 posted on 08/22/2010 4:20:23 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Recon Dad

That’s the whole thing, though, isn’t it—his missing past.

The press have informed us of, for example, every moment of George W. Bush’s past, ESPECIALLY the unflattering parts. Why, they even made stuff up to fill in some blanks.

But they did such a “You don’t need to know about THAT part, you’re a bigot who couldn’t understand” about so much of Obama’s past, that it’s no wonder people have a variety of points of view about his life. And then, of course, the media weenies like the chick write things like that column in TIME calling everyone a moron who thought he was a Muslim.

THEY cover-up, confuse and rewrite his past (for political purposes), and WE’re the morons.


34 posted on 08/22/2010 4:38:22 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: ImperialistDaddy
for a man who canceled National Prayer Day

Actually, he did not cancel it. It still was observed. He just did not allow the National Day Of Prayer breakfast to be held in the WH, and he did not attend where it was held. However, he issued a proclamation declaring the day a National Day of Prayer, to cover his behind. Attending the National Day of Prayer breakfast was begun by Bush, Senior...and continued by Clinton and GW. Obama has never attended.

Just to help you with your facts so you don't report incorrectly to any liberal you might be arguing with, LOL.

35 posted on 08/22/2010 4:40:50 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Do you miss me yet?" Yes, George, we do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad's own approach

Step away from the crack pipe.
36 posted on 08/22/2010 5:00:25 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Darkwolf377

Just as the Christians have their CEO’s (Christmas and Easter Only), Islam has their REO’s (Ramadan and Eid Only). Obama is a REO.


37 posted on 08/22/2010 5:01:50 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is not Muslim.Or is he actions speak louder than words.


38 posted on 08/22/2010 6:10:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Eye of Unk

Very interesting site I have bookmarked now. Regardless of what we believe Bo’s faith is in the eyes of Muslims he is a Muslim. It would appear from his background and decisions he has not denounced that he is...rather that in a “Political” sense and for that reason he opted to go under Wright’s church...incorperating Wright’s brand of Christianity with his Muslim faith. Those two can and do mix well together for both are anti-American.


39 posted on 08/22/2010 6:36:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"They would cite his open nature and habit of reaching out to critics, reminiscent of the Prophet Muhammad's own approach..."

Yeah, that mohammad guy was always reaching out to his critics... with a sword.

Does this mean Barry is a crypto-muslim?

40 posted on 08/22/2010 6:51:04 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

STOP THE MOSQUE

http://stopthe911mosque.com/


41 posted on 08/22/2010 6:56:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Eye of Unk

The Obama File consists of all that is known about Obama and backed up by links to his books, speeches, videos.
Best on the net.


42 posted on 08/22/2010 11:25:05 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ImperialistDaddy

Thanks for info. Had not seen it before. Great thanks for posting.


43 posted on 08/22/2010 1:08:12 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama went to Rev. Wright Church because the congregation was 10,000.

If the local Hindu Temple had 11,000 members, he’d have become a Hindu.

It was just a stepping stone to power.


44 posted on 08/22/2010 1:30:24 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: ImperialistDaddy; 2ndDivisionVet

I found the blog with the picture but no photo credits. Must find credits.

Obama at Islamic Prayer Meeting Just Before Christmas

The president is telling any who will listen that America is not a Christian Nation. He didn’t attend the Christian Day of Prayer and has only been to a Christian church one time since he was elected. However, right before Christmas he had time for a Muslim Prayer Service. In the above photo he is getting ready to pray to Allah.

http://willswordsofwisdom.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/disgusting/


45 posted on 08/22/2010 1:38:28 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: CitizenM

Lol! Them damn liberals take one bit of misinformation and run with it till they die like a horse that has been galloped to death. I guess when they got nothing real to say that is all they can do.


46 posted on 08/23/2010 2:11:15 AM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Ha! I heard that one night while listening. Terrorists are such a sorry lot. I say we get a bunch of gamers together and work ‘em out and teach them martial arts, send them over there to kill terrorists for sport. I’m up for it.


47 posted on 08/23/2010 2:13:59 AM PDT by ImperialistDaddy (The doctor has left the House!)
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To: Darkwolf377

That nails it for me. It should for anyone who has read his first book and paid any attention at all to his campaign for the Presidency and he actions in office.


48 posted on 08/23/2010 2:29:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: kosta50
The Rev. Wright's church is named Trinity United Church of Christ.

That said, it doesn't resemble a Christian church except in name.

49 posted on 08/23/2010 2:54:20 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Quiller

The Muslim Brotherhood “Project”
By Patrick Poole
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22415


50 posted on 08/23/2010 3:01:22 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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