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Michelle Obama made dusk visit to Great Mosque of Granada during Spanish trip [Built 2003]
Canada Free Press ^ | August 23, 2010 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 08/24/2010 12:03:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

While President Barack Obama was “forcefully” endorsing the Ground Zero Mosque, Michelle Obama was paying homage with her presence to the Great Mosque at Granada, which overlooks what was once Islam’s most important outpost in Europe, the Alhambra palace in Granada.

There is no doubt about the influence of the Great Mosque of Granada overlooking Alhambra. One Spanish guidebook states that the Alhambra is to Granada what St.Peter’s is to Rome or St. Mark’s Square to Venice.

Michelle Obama and her nine-year-old daughter, Sasha, visited the Alhambra Mosque at dusk on the second day of her visit to Spain, one day after Barack had celebrated his 49th birthday without his family with Chicago friends.

Built in 2003, the Great Mosque in Granada, like the mosque planned in the shadow of Ground Zero, was born in controversy.

“The land on which the mosque has been built was bought 22 years ago, but city authorities continually objected to the planning proposals.” (Victory News Magazine, July 17, 2003). “When it was finally accepted that the land could be used for religious purposes, objections were raised to the layout of the building. Planners had to rethink the height and design of the building’s minaret but opposition to the scheme, which received financial backing from Libya, the United Arab Emirates and Morocco, gradually subsided.”

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Are we really still "debating" whether he's a Muslim or not? Really?
1 posted on 08/24/2010 12:03:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well the circumstantial evidence seems to be getting stronger.


2 posted on 08/24/2010 12:21:50 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't know what Michelle's motivation is, but I have been to Spain and it is not uncommon to visit at least one mosque while in Spain.

Her lack of sensitivity is, of course, appalling.

3 posted on 08/24/2010 12:25:17 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Built in 2003, the Great Mosque in Granada, like the mosque planned in the shadow of Ground Zero, was born in controversy.

The Spanish may have to fight Reconquista and the Battle of Granada all over again.

4 posted on 08/24/2010 12:28:01 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Slyfox

This is not some ancient mosque from the Middle Ages, it was built in 2003!


5 posted on 08/24/2010 12:36:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh people, stop being so hyper critical.

I’m quite sure she also visited a Christian Cathedral too! After all, Spanish speaking people everywhere recognize their Christian heritage coming from Espana (Spain).

Which Cathedral did she visit?

The Corporate Media probably forgot to mention it, no big surprise. Right??


6 posted on 08/24/2010 12:47:25 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

uhm mmmmm mmmmm mmmmmmh…

Do I sense a clandestine meeting to convey Obama’s wishes to his allies, through his wife; did she bow, or plug the hole for the cause.


7 posted on 08/24/2010 12:51:41 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is silly. My Mom went there when she visited Spain two years ago. It’s a tourist attraction. I’m no fan of either Obama... but really, if my Mom (who is definitly not a Muslim) can visit there because she’s on vacation, I suppose Michelle Obama can too.


8 posted on 08/24/2010 12:52:52 AM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; STARWISE; maggief; onyx; penelopesire; Liz

Did they allow her in? Thought only believer were allowed in.....Who did she meet there?


9 posted on 08/24/2010 1:04:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where are the photos of the Wookie in a burkie?
10 posted on 08/24/2010 1:28:43 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: ntmxx

I think she is there to pick up the BP bribes.


11 posted on 08/24/2010 1:29:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: DCBurgess58

And your Mom was the FLOTUS married to a POTUS that many people suspect was a closet muslim at the time of her visit? I think that if nothing else her visit shows horrible political judgement and incredible insensitivity for the concerns of a considerable portion of the citizens of the USA.


12 posted on 08/24/2010 1:31:55 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I do not believe either of these people are faithful at all. They have the religion of “black liberation theology”, google that.


13 posted on 08/24/2010 1:33:18 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: DCBurgess58; 2ndDivisionVet
This is silly. My Mom went there when she visited Spain two years ago. It’s a tourist attraction

I think you are confusing the 14th century Alhambra Moorish palace and mosque with this new mosque built in 2003. The new mosque is an actual place of worship, of no historical or, touristy distinction. It would be like visiting a Catholic church built 7 years ago as a tourist attraction!

14 posted on 08/24/2010 1:53:16 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: DCBurgess58

Yes, but I’m sure your Mom also visited a Church.


15 posted on 08/24/2010 1:53:43 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: DCBurgess58

Why bother going to a mosque if you are on vacation? How many Christians would visit a mosque?


16 posted on 08/24/2010 3:23:58 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has the question been answered? Has anyone ever seen Obama eat during the days of Ramadan?


17 posted on 08/24/2010 3:27:45 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: bronxville

“Yes, but I’m sure your Mom also visited a Church.”

As it happens, so did she.

Michelle Obama and daughter tour cathedral during visit to Granada in southern Spain

Published August 05, 2010

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/08/05/michelle-obama-daughter-tour-cathedral-visit-granada-southern-spain/


18 posted on 08/24/2010 3:42:10 AM PDT by Mila
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To: DCBurgess58; kosta50; 2ndDivisionVet

This mosque was built in 2003 and is not a tourist attraction. But it’s worse than just a mosque.

For those who may not know, it’s part of a large Islamic project run by a group similar to Rauf’s, the marabitun, aimed at converting Granada into a Muslim city. They actually have one neighborhood there that is completely ruled by Islam and filled mostly with converts they have brought in; non-Muslims have moved out. They plan this for the entire city.

So having the Wookie visit it is not a good thing, and certainly not innocent.


19 posted on 08/24/2010 3:55:13 AM PDT by livius
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To: Doofer

Prayer time at the mosque starts at dusk.

But the lame stream media just told us that some in this country, wrongly believe that obama is a muslim.

I like that they have to get out in front of this by making the case that obama is a christian. How come obama isn’t. Kinda similar to another president, “I am not a crook”.

Thoughts for the morning.


20 posted on 08/24/2010 3:59:40 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: J Edgar

I am going to Spain in two months and have ABSOLUTELY NO desire, plan, time — you name it — to visit a mosque of any kind.


21 posted on 08/24/2010 4:02:52 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fine...visit a mosque in Spain, or any place of worship anywhere in the world because it is an attraction or historically significant, or a landmark...

But, please tell me when any of this family visited, out of interest or pleasure, any Christian Cathedral, Church, Chapel. Right in DC is the beautiful, internationally praised and architecturally significant, Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. It is the largest Roman Catholic Church in the United States and North America. It is also one of the ten largest churches in the world.

Have we heard of one or any of the Obama's visiting there? Have they exposed their daughters to the beauty and sanctity of that landmark?

22 posted on 08/24/2010 4:26:16 AM PDT by CitizenM ("Do you miss me yet?" Yes, George, we do.)
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To: livius; DCBurgess58; 2ndDivisionVet
For those who may not know, it’s part of a large Islamic project run by a group similar to Rauf’s, the marabitun, aimed at converting Granada into a Muslim city.

And when you listen to "moderate" Muslims trying to convince the American public that there is no reason to worry, just remember what al taqiyya is. To put it plainly, it's "good works" which earnes Muslims salvation, and consists of deliberately deceiving or lying to the non-Muslims.

So, if you begin to feel swayed by "moderate" Muslim talking heads on TV, or begin to doubt all the "islamophobes", remember al taqiyya and also remember that Muslims see 0bama as one of their own, whether he is a practicing Muslim or not. Just think: the ultimate al taqiyya would be to have everyone convinced he is a Christian.

When exactly did he become a Christian. His mother was a communist/leftist. His father was a Muslim who embraced communist ideas, but was buried with full Islamic rites. His grandfather was cradle Catholic who converted to Islam. 0bama's first and middle names are Muslim names. There is nothing Christian in his background.

23 posted on 08/24/2010 4:40:56 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obozo Hussein and the Billion Orr Two Muslims in the World are laughing at the Stupid, Naive, American Leftwing Moonbat Infidels who still want to believe Obozo Hussein’s total pile of Bullcrap! The Muslims would be ripping Obozo if he had converted to Christianity and he would be praising
Our “ HOLY BIBLE “ instead of His “ Holy Koran’”! Ask the Con-artist to recite the Lord’s Prayer or the Apostle’s Creed and we will be able to hear the crickets chirping!!


24 posted on 08/24/2010 4:46:16 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She worships calypso louie.

LLS

25 posted on 08/24/2010 4:49:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: kosta50
al taqiyya

Who come up with these idiotic spelling translations from Arabic? Does some quivering liberal egghead just think they're sooo bleepin' smart?

We don't need them destroying our language as well. In American English, a "Q" is always followed by a "U"....like "Qur'an" for example.

Annoying words like "Al Qaeda" and "Al Qaida", "Qatar" and others should be spelled Alkida, and Kattar, or Guttar. If that offends them they can go pound sand.

Next thing you know we'll be seeing spellings like:

Qatie Qouriq

Gimme a break...support redneck spelling of islamic terms.

26 posted on 08/24/2010 4:58:22 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: Mila

The cathedral was built in 1492. That’s history. A mosque built in 2003 is not.


27 posted on 08/24/2010 4:59:24 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We know where her heart is. And it ain’t with Christianity/Judaism/Western Civilization.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 5:17:38 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Who come up with these idiotic spelling translations from Arabic? Does some quivering liberal egghead just think they're sooo bleepin' smart

Actually, there is no hard and set rule on how to transliterate from Arabic. It's pretty much up to an "egghead" to decide. The Quran" is also sometimes spelled the Koran, which is how I spell it.

Maybe the Arabic "kh" is a guttural sound which doesn't correspond to our k, so they substitute. I find the same variability in spelling when it comes to Biblical Hebrew, so much so that the same word doesn't even look the same in some of the variants. Then there are the apostrophes (') which I have no clue how to pronounce.

It's bad enough as it is; adding "redneck" spelling would make things even more complicated and difficult to track, imo.

29 posted on 08/24/2010 5:32:16 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50
The Quran" is also sometimes spelled the Koran, which is how I spell it....adding "redneck" spelling would make things even more complicated and difficult to track

Good, "koran" would be exactly the type of "redneck spelling" I was alluding to.

Maybe the Arabic "kh" is a guttural sound which doesn't correspond to our k, so they substitute.

Well then why don't they use "KH", that's self explanatory. Like Khadafi, they also spelled it Gaddafi. Now it's "Qaddafi".

The lone "Q" doesn't sound like "KH" or even have a definition. "KH" doesn't violate our language..."Q*" does.

It's bad enough as it is

I agree, but I don't spend a lot of time worrying about how to spell the sounds my dog makes either. They should just spell it like it sounds...woof.

30 posted on 08/24/2010 6:05:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: LibLieSlayer; 2ndDivisionVet; STARWISE; hoosiermama; onyx; penelopesire; Liz
She worships calypso louie.


31 posted on 08/24/2010 6:11:44 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Slyfox
Is this what she wore to visit the Mosque? (it was the photo accompanying the article)

Isn't she supposed to be covered up? We would ALL appreciate it!

Cool, you went to Spain?

32 posted on 08/24/2010 6:16:31 AM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Surprising how the MSM manages not to mention little things like this and, instead, just parrots “Obama is a Christian.”


33 posted on 08/24/2010 6:16:53 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: ez

He ate ice cream on the second day. I was watching out!


34 posted on 08/24/2010 6:19:02 AM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: hoosiermama; 2ndDivisionVet; STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire; NYer; The Mayor; JouleZ; ...
Cordoba Mosque converted to Catholic Cathedral.

Too bad Michele did not go to view The Great Mosque of Córdoba, Spain, begun 786, then converted into Córdoba's Roman Catholic cathedral in 1238. The Catholic Cathedral is known locally as La Mezquita —The Mosque.

Aerial view of the Great Mosque of Córdoba, Spain, begun 786, doubled in area in the 10th century to 585 x 410 feet, with 1,200 columns supporting horseshoe arches, patterned with colored marbles and other stones. Although it was converted into Córdoba's Roman Catholic cathedral in 1238, the building is known locally as La Mezquita —The Mosque. LINK AT SITE: see the Great Mosque of Córdoba, showing the Christian alterations.

35 posted on 08/24/2010 6:22:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Well then why don't they use "KH", that's self explanatory. Like Khadafi, they also spelled it Gaddafi. Now it's "Qaddafi".

Yeah, they used to spell Khadafi but then someone decided it wasn't "Islamic" enough.

I don't spend a lot of time worrying about how to spell the sounds my dog makes either. They should just spell it like it sounds...woof.

Well, I don't know who decides how we transliterate other languages. Personally, the Chinese transliterations are equally annoying. Foreign words and name should be transliterated in such a way that Americans pronounce them, not how they are spelled in the original.

Who cares how they are spelled in their native language! Chinese used to be transliterated so we could pronounce it, then they switched to current transliteration rules and Peking became Beijing, and Mao Tse-tung became Mao Zedung. Chinese has a lot of half tones that cannot be reproduced in English, so the best thing is to spell them as close as possible. But the Chinese insist on oding spelling acrobatics which are totally meaningless to an English reader, such as the fine differences between the Chinese shi and xi.

36 posted on 08/24/2010 6:28:00 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

I’m down with every bit of that. (a little American ebonics there)

Screw the PC translation czars. Support redneck (American) spelling!


37 posted on 08/24/2010 6:40:29 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: maggief

calypso louie is just another guy in the neighborhood....AND the person who got Rezko his first job as business manager (and controller) of Mo Ali, the boxer.


38 posted on 08/24/2010 6:48:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: livius

bump


39 posted on 08/24/2010 7:27:47 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: livius
So having the Wookie visit it is not a good thing, and certainly not innocent.

“The mosque is a symbol of a return to Islam among the Spanish people and among indigenous Europeans that will break with the malicious concept of Islam as a foreign and immigrant religion in Europe,” says Abdel Haqq Salaberria, a spokesman for the mosque and convert to Islam.

“It will act as a vocal point for the Islamic revival in Europe.”

40 posted on 08/24/2010 7:40:08 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (BARF of the YEAR: Obama "We are God's partners in matters of life and death,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


41 posted on 08/24/2010 8:17:03 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


42 posted on 08/24/2010 8:17:03 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Screw the PC translation czars. Support redneck (American) spelling!

You have my vote. We should spell their names the way they sound. Start a trend.

43 posted on 08/24/2010 10:27:13 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"While President Barack Obama was “forcefully” endorsing the Ground Zero Mosque,
Michelle Obama was paying homage with her presence to the Great Mosque at Granada,
which overlooks what was once Islam’s most important outpost in Europe, the Alhambra palace in Granada."

see also



44 posted on 08/24/2010 11:02:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: kosta50

It’s a mosk.

He’s an E-mom.

I’m kinda partial to the Fr popular “moose-limbs”

I’ll bet we could go on for days.


45 posted on 08/24/2010 1:58:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: CAluvdubya

I was wondering the same thing....what did she wear??


46 posted on 08/24/2010 2:53:54 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Diogenesis

Isn’t that photo the Church (formerly a mosque from the Middle Ages) in Cordoba, not the mosque in Granada (built 2003)referenced in the story?


47 posted on 08/24/2010 3:42:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It’s a mosk. He’s an E-mom [LOL!]. I’m kinda partial to the Fr popular “moose-limbs”...I’ll bet we could go on for days.

Love it! Don't stop! Here is an idea: publish a Redneck Guide to Spelling. I'd bet it would be a hit.

48 posted on 08/24/2010 3:55:07 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Diogenesis
Isn’t that photo the Church (formerly a mosque from the Middle Ages) in Cordoba, not the mosque in Granada (built 2003)referenced in the story?

I thought it was in Seville.


49 posted on 08/24/2010 3:57:52 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: kosta50

Seville has the tower. Granada, the Alhambra. The Alhambra has the hand of Fatima over the entrance. It was surrendered by the Moors in 1492, to Ferdinand & Isabela. That year marks the return of Catholic Spain, Columbus & the leaving of the Moors in Spain. It’s actually a very big deal for them. I understand that within the last 2 years, the 1st mosque was established in Granada in 500 years.

Factoid of the day.


50 posted on 08/24/2010 4:01:03 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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