Dan Gilgoff
Posted on 08/29/2010 9:12:44 AM PDT by GonzoII
Among those surprised by all of conservative TV host Glenn Beck's recent religious talk - including at Saturday's Washington rally, where Beck said that "America today begins to turn back to God," - is the Rev. Richard Land, a Southern Baptist leader.
"I've been stunned," said Land, who directs public policy for the Southern Baptist Convention and who attended the Saturday rally at Beck's invitation.
"This guy's on secular radio and television," Land said Saturday, "but his shows sound like you're listening to the Trinity Broadcasting Network, only it's more orthodox and there's no appeal for money ... and today he sounded like Billy Graham."
Beck's speeches around his "Restoring Honor" rally have brimmed with religious language: "God dropped a giant sandbag on his head" to push him to organize the rally, he said Friday.
On Friday night, Beck held a religion-focused event at the Kennedy Center that was billed as Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny.
Beck's speech Saturday also evoked the feel of a religious revival.
"Look forward. Look West. Look to the heavens. Look to God and make your choice," he said.
Beck has also begun organizing top conservative religious leaders - mostly evangelicals - into a fledgling group called the Black Robed Regiment.
The organization, whose charter members convened in Washington this weekend, takes its name from American clergy sympathetic to the Revolution during the 1700s.
Beck's emerging role as a national leader for Christian conservatives is surprising not only because he has until recently stressed a libertarian ideology that is sometimes at odds with so-called family values conservatism, but also because Beck is a Mormon.
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“A Christian behind every blade of grass”
The message to Islam.
Y’know, everyone sez Beck is Mormon (including him),
but I’ve been listening to him and watching him for 3+ years and I don’t hear the Mormon message.
So if it comes to pass that he does become the leader for Christian conservatives, I’m fine with that.
I think he’d make a fine leader (not in an elected position).
Beck's religious rhetoric appears to counter the prevailing conventional wisdom that the power of religious conservatives has been eclipsed by the Tea Party movement's small-government conservatives. But Green says that "groups of religious people who care about social issues have not gone away." "Some of their leaders faded but that group didn't disappear," he said. "They are waiting for new leaders and my sense is that Beck would like to be one of those leaders."
Another attempt to look for a leader of an organization they claim is eclipsing the Tea Party groups so they can Alinskyize the leader and take them both out in the court of public opinion.
SO WHAT?
“Beck is a Mormon.”
Bears repeating.....One wonders which “god” of which planet Beck is speaking about.
The question is whether exposure to all of these Christian leaders can persuade Beck to leave the Mormon religion and return to Christianity.
SO WHAT?
Liberals all think alike. That is why they can’t comprehend conservatives having different opinions on all sorts of issues. We agree on many things, but are mature enough to accept differences as well.
Can we spend more time worrying about the nation burning down over whether person A love Jesus the right way over person B?
Because the extremist Muslim will kill you both just as equally.
Dan Gilgoff
I've only seen excerpts of this rally. Perhaps what I've seen doesn't represent the rally. From my excerpted view of this rally I would describe it as the following...
A Morman libertarian "leading" Christian conservatives, while not mentioning the specific Marxist policies that are dragging this country to a Godless ruin.
Is this correct?
Anybody?
It's like other political commentaries, they don’t have to be Christian to arrive at the right analysis or answers but I believe it helps enormously if you are Christian. Glenn Beck is a good guy. What he needs is prayers to get him out of crazy Mormonism beliefs.
Dan Gilgoff:
“Faith has played a larger role in Obama’s white house in the first 100 days than in any other president’s”
The left wishes that. What scares them is most Democrats--had they not been warned off, had the left not demonized Beck, Palin and others--could have attended either event and fit right in. The First Selectman of my town, a Democrat, gave a speech on Memorial day that was little different from the speeches we heard yesterday. Same with other Democrats I know. Common American values were promoted this weekend. Only ones alarmed are the secularists and progressives who know they represent only a part of the Democratic party.
As a Christian lead it is time to leave the Mormon Church.
Neither do I hear a Christian message from Beck. I hear a moral and political philosophy rooted in Christian tenets, but not very explicity the message of personal salvation one finds in John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8,10, laced throughout Romans, and elsewhere.
That being said, I believe Beck is doing good work in revealing long-buried and forgotten elements of American political and social history.
Same God a Christian so liberal he almost wasn't confirmed, John Mayhew, spoke of in his sermon on Unlimited Submission. Same God colonial neo-Calvinists who feared Mayhew's theology spoke of when they agreed with him on the need for revolt.
Glenn is a thinker. t’s very possible that he will find Christ. Pray for him.
What's happening here is a play on his Mormonism ...mulitple planets and multipe god ,,, liberals know that won't sit well with those that take Christianity seriously and KNOW all religions aren't the same or equal. Mike Huckabee had a ball with Mitt during the primary with his constantly bringing up Mitt's Mormonism - hes such a a devious, little viper.
I believe Glenn Beck can be turned around. He's not electable for any office. He's best suited for his political commentary show.
I hear a message of repentance. OF humbling oneself before God and letting your children see you do so. Of not borrowing what you cannot pay back. Of love of country. Of love of the founders. Hatred of debt as slavery.
Beck does not pretend to be Billy Graham. He is who he is and he reaches millions.
People that get that far will go to read the Bible.
Mormons lure you in with the Bible and switch gears to The Book of Mormon - which is Joseph’s Smiths rewritten Bible.
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The Book of Mormon is not the bible, it’s not a rewritten bible. It’s the record of a separate tribe from the tribe of Joseph, where the Bible is a record of the tribe of Judah. You may not agree with it, but that it it’s claim.
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/introduction
Glenn has come a long way from being an addict, who knows where his search will lead. For the time being, I'm enjoying taking the trek with him. I'm learning things about my country and myself I didn't know. I don't agree with him all the time, but I know he wouldn't want that, we should think for ourselves. Beck makes me think and evaluate my own life and what I want to accomplish. He gives me confidence to speak up and make a difference. Maybe that is part of why he is hated?
Really? You really believe Beck is pushing Mormonism?
If he were, I wouldn't be listening to him. Orrin Hatch is Mormon and I don't listen to him (mainly b/c he is a RINO).
You forgot the ‘with a rifle’ part.
Beck explicitly said prior to the event that this would not be political. So why would you expect him to mention ad nauseum the Marxist policies you refer to when he does so almost every night on TV?
Ummmmmmmm, no. Check out Mormon theology. They are polytheists.
Because the extremist Muslim will kill you both just as equally.”
Some of us look beyond the TEMPORAL and care more about the ETERNAL. That doesn't mean that we can multiprocess and get this while we are on this earth.
I like Glenn. It's not my call to determine where he spends eternity however Mormonism isn't the right path. Sure they claim to “believe” in the Bible but they elevated Joseph Smith's rewritten Bible, The Book of Mormon, OVER the Bible.
Mormon leaders tell followers are corrupt and be grateful that Joseph Smith REWROTE it for you etc.. Unfortunately the teachings in the Book of Mormon, as expected contradict the “corrupt” Bible. Heck that was the whole point - another Gospel!
So pray for Glenn. He's a good guy. We can get the job done on earth - political issues etc.. with help from Him.
Agree completely.
The Creator Higher Power. He is a reformed alcoholic. He probably has a 12 step plan to wean us from big government. A worse vice than alcohol. There are functioning alcoholics but the Government is non-functional at this point. Rock Bottom so to speak.
Yeah I did, we have the resources to make our own weapons should the Islamic infiltration forces succeed in taking our guns away.
Islam is quite unaware that a gun isn’t always behind every blade of grass, there is a person armed with knowledge, something that Islam has kept from ITS followers.
Beck has really taught me a lot about our past history, and encouraged me to start looking on my own. He has pointed me in the right direction a few times, and I'm grateful for that.
That being said, I don't think of him as a religious leader. Not mine anyway. In fact, what we need is for EVERYONE to be a leader, both in their particular faith and in their conservative principles.
There's a great saying that I have used since my military days.
LEAD BY EXAMPLE!
Maybe so. Too bad it wasn't the Christian faith.
translation.
bring up the mormon issue to see if some on the right will be bigots and then attack Beck for being mormon.
The left are so so so easy to read in their agenda’s.
They’ve tried all sorts to denounce the guy so now they use his religion to have questions raised to him from the evangelicals.
Lets hope they’re not going to fall for the lefts trap.
What is great about the right wing and conservatives is that we can disagree on some issues but the goal is the same.
The left wing cannot understand that due to them always thinking that they have to all think the same way.
Well said and very heartfelt! Thank you!
Was it Yamamoto who said that? Honestly I fear the Democrat Communists damage far more than Muslim Terrorists.
“Really? You really believe Beck is pushing Mormonism?”
Really. The Mormon Beck called his rally “Glenn Beck’s Divine Destiny”. What is the “divine destiny” of Mormons? To be the god of their own world, that’s what.
Any so called Christian who follows a Mormon as his so called “Christian leader” is an apostate. 2 Corinthians 11:14
Well and truly said.
“Beck makes me think and evaluate my own life and what I want to accomplish. He gives me confidence to speak up and make a difference. Maybe that is part of why he is hated?”
Sounds like he’s doing good work.
Hey, you goofs. Before you get on the Mormon derangement train, read some of the recent threads. The Catholic derangement train has already left the station and is gaining steam. Are you both gonna throw coal on the fire?
I know, I know. They haven’t come for you yet, so go ahead and join the derangement.
As for the premise that Beck is “leading” anything, maybe he is and maybe he isn’t. No one leads me (but Christ). But Beck did the heavy lifting this time, while other “leaders” sat on the sidelines throwing stones. Hell with them.
This has to do with truth. Saying a Mormon is not Christian is the truth.
I'm sure Glenn loves his country, fine.
At this point I believe there is no danger of fractioning the conservative vote.
2 Cor 10:7 (NIV) You are looking only at the surface of things.
” I hear a moral and political philosophy rooted in Christian tenets, but not very explicitly the message of personal salvation one finds in John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8,10, laced throughout Romans, and elsewhere.”
The reason is because it is the Book of Mormon replaces the Bible. Not all paths lead to heaven. Some people don't care about Glenn's spiritual life or being mislead. Glenn has a good heart. He's truly a good guy.
All these other folks care about is THEMSELVES. You won't hear concern over Glenn's spiritual life. HE could be a Buddhist and that wouldn't bother them either - as long as be VOICED THEIR VIEWS. It's sad. It's stupid. It is the Judeo CHristina God that is in control. A rational Christian would want a leader to have a personal relationship with HIM! You can't get a more powerful advocate - but then don't see it that way.
It's very childish but you see it all the time on here - INSTATN GRATIFICATION and NAME CALLING when they don't get their way. We have far too many adults that are really toddlers in their behavior. It's really all about THEM. They are SELFISH, INTOLERANT people who only live for the TEMPORAL.
Glenn deserves better. Pray for Glenn to truly know Christ of they Judeo Christian Bible. Wouldn't it be neat to have Glenn in eternity with us? He's for real and really cares about our country and the people in it.
Beck will never be a “national leader” for conservative Christians. This is the media’s wet-dream, to define our leaders for us.
” I hear a moral and political philosophy rooted in Christian tenets, but not very explicitly the message of personal salvation one finds in John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8,10, laced throughout Romans, and elsewhere.”
The reason is because it is the Book of Mormon replaces the Bible. Not all paths lead to heaven. Some people don't care about Glenn's spiritual life or being mislead. Glenn has a good heart. He's truly a good guy.
All these other folks care about is THEMSELVES. You won't hear concern over Glenn's spiritual life. HE could be a Buddhist and that wouldn't bother them either - as long as be VOICED THEIR VIEWS. It's sad. It's stupid. It is the Judeo Christian God that is in control. A rational Christian would want a leader to have a personal relationship with HIM! You can't get a more powerful advocate - but then don't see it that way.
It's very childish but you see it all the time on here - INSTATN GRATIFICATION and NAME CALLING when they don't get their way. We have far too many adults that are really toddlers in their behavior. It's really all about THEM. They are SELFISH, INTOLERANT people who only live for the TEMPORAL.
Glenn deserves better. Pray for Glenn to truly know Christ of they Judeo Christian Bible. Wouldn't it be neat to have Glenn in eternity with us? He's for real and really cares about our country and the people in it.
Well spoken. You speak truth.
some say Mormon is Christian some say not.
Asking the question about it is or not or even if he is Christian is going to fracture the conservatives and this is what the left are trying to do.
lets hope this does not work or get traction.
beck did a great job and lets laugh at the pathetic left wing press which are in turmoil right now
The Beck I know does. Beck has said so over and over. He even said he spent about 6 months trying to tear Mormonism apart, researching it inside and out. Just because he doesn't share your view of Mormonism does not make him a non-believer in the Christ of the Judeo-Christian Bible.
Give it a rest.
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