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Shroud of Turin a 'radiation photo' of resurrection?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=199013 ^ | September 4, 2010 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/05/2010 9:33:27 AM PDT by NYer

Scientists are building the case that the image of a crucified man on the Shroud of Turin was created by radiation that emanated from the body itself, a theory remarkably supportive of the traditional resurrection account that is central to Christian theology.

A scientific paper co-authored by attorney and historian Mark Antonacci and physicist Arthur Lind argues that the image of the crucified man in Shroud of Turin might constitute what amounts to a photograph taken at the instant Jesus' body transformed as he rose from the dead.

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In the paper, "Particle Radiation from the Body," Antonacci's and Lind's argument centers around the 29 unique or unusual features that scientists over the past four decades have found on the Shroud's body image and fiber.

For instance, the authors noted the Shroud's frontal and dorsal body images are "encoded with the same amount of intensity, independent of any pressure or weight from the body," such that the bottom part of the cloth that bore all the weight of the crucified man's supine body is not encoded with a greater amount of intensity than the frontal image.

"Radiation coming from the body would not only explain this feature, but also the left/right and light/dark reversals found on the cloth's frontal and dorsal body images," the authors note.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: medievalfake; medievalforgery; medievalfraud; shroud; shroudofturin
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1 posted on 09/05/2010 9:33:30 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
In arguing that the source of light that created the body image on the Shroud came from within the body, the authors observed that "neither the outside or inside of the tomb, nor the outside or inside of either the front or back sides of the cloth" are found on the Shroud's image.

"This means that the source of light does not originate outside of the body, the cloth or the tomb, but with the body itself," they write. "The weave of the inner part of the cloth containing the frontal and dorsal images is note even part of the distinctive images, which they too, would have been, if the light came from anywhere outside the body."

2 posted on 09/05/2010 9:34:49 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping!


3 posted on 09/05/2010 9:35:53 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: NYer

Not this crap again...


4 posted on 09/05/2010 9:37:03 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: NYer

Interesting....


5 posted on 09/05/2010 9:37:23 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: NYer
Not catholic anymore, but always believed the shroud was authentic....even when years ago they tested it and called it fake....jmho
6 posted on 09/05/2010 9:42:59 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: NYer

Here’s my theory about the Shroud of Turin. Long ago, an atheist made a joke: “How do you make Christendom look like a parade of gullible idiots?”

The Shroud of Turin was the punchline.


7 posted on 09/05/2010 9:43:46 AM PDT by Julia H. (This tagline for rent--Only $999.99/month!)
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To: bill1952

This comment is out of bounds- why not dispute the scientific evidence if this is your position.


8 posted on 09/05/2010 9:47:40 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Julia H.

Not much of a joke since athheists think we Christians are gullible idiots anyway, with or without the Shroud of Turin.


9 posted on 09/05/2010 10:01:38 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: goat granny

not sure what being Catholic or not being Catholic has to do with the subject of the shroud. I’ve also always believed the shroud was the real deal.


10 posted on 09/05/2010 10:03:11 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Julia H.

Instead of insults why not refute their scientific findings? Can you?


11 posted on 09/05/2010 10:03:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Julia H.
Here’s my theory about the Shroud of Turin. Long ago, an atheist made a joke: “How do you make Christendom look like a parade of gullible idiots?”

If your theory had any validity, then it would be a simple matter for you or some comedic atheist, to EXACTLY REPRODUCE the Shroud of Turin today.

Can you do so?

12 posted on 09/05/2010 10:11:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Has anything in the bible ever been proven wrong?


13 posted on 09/05/2010 10:11:41 AM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: NYer

I don’t think this is a ‘new’ theory on how the Shroud of Turin was created. It sounds more like acknowledgment that the original theory was true.


14 posted on 09/05/2010 10:13:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: NYer

Wow.

Awesome.

Has me rethinking my plans about donating my body to the Med School.

I think I would like to remain whole.


15 posted on 09/05/2010 10:15:45 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: goat granny

Not “practicing” Catholic anymore.

Not to be nit picky but if you were baptized and confirmed you can’t unCatholic that sistah.

But you can not practice being Catholic.

Just my 2 cents...don’t want to start a Dr.Eckelburg/Quix and friends religeous was on this thread.

The colored bold font might trigger a migraine.

/sarc


16 posted on 09/05/2010 10:19:05 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: plain talk

Thanks.

Hey the scientists don’t see it as a “Catholic thang”.


17 posted on 09/05/2010 10:21:05 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: plain talk
Until the publicity about the shroud a few years back, it was practically unknown to other denominations...but almost all Catholics knew about it. Its been in the catholic church for 2000 years...
18 posted on 09/05/2010 10:21:45 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Julia H.

I would eat lunch with an athiest before I would an anti Catholic anyday.

Better manners. : )


19 posted on 09/05/2010 10:22:47 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: UCANSEE2

Good one!
(very clever IMO)


20 posted on 09/05/2010 10:24:43 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Sam Clements

No. You might want to ask the other poster that question.


21 posted on 09/05/2010 10:24:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: bill1952
Not this crap again...

You mean Science trying to solve the riddles of our past? Like those silly pyramids?

Maybe we should burn the Shroud, and blow up the pyramids, just so scientists quit wasting their time on useless information.

Or, am I misinterpreting your remark?

22 posted on 09/05/2010 10:25:15 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: goat granny

Where is it now?

I know where St. Peter and John Paul are but not the shrine.


23 posted on 09/05/2010 10:26:18 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010
Well sweet cheeks, your entitled to your opinion of what I am, that don't make it so....I was baptized Lutheran years before becoming catholic, when I ask the priest why do a redo, he said just in case the wrong words were used in your other baptism....The words were exactly the same...oops am I Lutheran or catholic or just a believer that goes to no church....and I love your sarcasm tag, very cute of you...
24 posted on 09/05/2010 10:31:07 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Julia H.; bill1952
I only ask that you read this short webpage. Pretend you are a scientist - only seeking the truth. No bias going in; completely open-minded.

The Shroud of Turin


" ... do not be faithless, but believing."

25 posted on 09/05/2010 10:31:24 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free ...)
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To: plain talk

>>”always believed the shroud was the real deal”>>>>>>

Same here, even when it has been in doubt, I hoped it was real. I love the idea that it is real but I do not NEED it to believe in Jesus Christ.


26 posted on 09/05/2010 10:35:55 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: NYer
to see the scientific research and approach that comes to this conclusion - see the History Channels documentary: “The Real Face of Jesus?”

The DVD is also available - it should be in every household.
the DVD:

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=261203&v=history_subject_religion&ecid=PID-200006143&pa=SEM_HistorySubReligion_history%20channel%20the%20real%20face%20of%20jesus&esvtk_s=bgss

From the Art side

http://www.imagochristiorganization.com/resources/body%20of%20jesus.JPG?tid_1254718871828

for you naysayers, at least do some research and be able to back up your naysaying with more than ignorant pontifications

27 posted on 09/05/2010 10:38:37 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: NYer
Scientists are building the case that the image of a crucified man on the Shroud of Turin was created by radiation that emanated from the body itself, a theory remarkably supportive of the traditional resurrection account that is central to Christian theology.

The human spirit can raise it's vibrational energy at will. It can also tolerate extremely high energies. That is why the spirit can look into the face of God, but the material human cannot. Even though the spirit can raise that energy, it only does so in extreme situations. When normal human spirits do so, we call it SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION.

Jesus, we believe, was not normal. The link between his conscious and his spirit was much stronger, and what is noted in the Bible as the 'ladder' we will use to get to heaven.

If one can accept all of the above, then it follows that Jesus was able to 'raise' his dead/dying body by raising his spiritual vibration energy level. Doing so left 'radiation' burns on the cloth.

28 posted on 09/05/2010 10:40:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: Global2010

Do your own research, I charge for that....I already know how you feel based on your scarcastic remark to me on an earlier post.


29 posted on 09/05/2010 10:40:55 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Its been in the catholic church for 2000 years...

ah - no.

It was privately owned and protected for centuries.

30 posted on 09/05/2010 10:42:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: NYer

BUMP


31 posted on 09/05/2010 10:42:54 AM PDT by kitkat (OBAMA hates us. Well, maybe a LOT of Kenyans do.)
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To: maine-iac7

Appreciate the correction, but I do believe that it has always been protected by Catholics...but I could be mistaken.


32 posted on 09/05/2010 10:46:18 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Sam Clements; DJ MacWoW
Has anything in the bible ever been proven wrong?

By 'anything', do you mean 'details' or 'concepts' ?

33 posted on 09/05/2010 10:46:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: NYer
During a period of doubt. When I was younger I asked God if he was for Real. That he could show me for sure. At that time I never slept before 11:00 at night. Well after asking I had a very supernatural sleep at 5:00 in the afternoon. I woke up refreshed at 1:45am Staying in the bed. I turned on the TV left it on the channel that it was positioned on.

At 2:00 pm on WOR(NYC) channel 9 was a showing a Shroud of Turin documentary. During the program amazing supernatural peace came with a revelation of truth. To see how brutalized Christ endured for us. If I went to bed at 11:00pm as usual I would never have seen this program. This was God. Ever since I always believed the Shroud to be true cloth of Christ. Praise Jesus!

34 posted on 09/05/2010 10:47:08 AM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Global2010
Where is it now? I know where St. Peter and John Paul are but not the shrine.

do you mean the Shroud of Turin?

If so, it's not a shrine. It's a shroud - burial cloth - and it's displayed in a church in TURIN, Italy -

For those who are unfamiliar with the Shroud - a mystery to me - Google is at your fingertips.

I've been studying, researching the Shroud for over 50 years. More and more exciting research comes out -

Doing your own study is recommenced.

35 posted on 09/05/2010 10:48:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: goat granny

Well there you go then you weren’t baptized a Cahtolic.

You get the get out Hell for free card! /smart alec

I am not a deep thinking apologetic more the lady praying for all type of Catholic (conservative).

That being said a wise man (my Preist who taught me when I came back to my faith of origin) told me once dunked (no matter what affiliation) no need for re-dunking. (is that like the no double dipping rule?)

I was double dunked.
However could not find the record of in my birth place Catholic Church.

But! The Baptist church here in town had my record and that was a blessing when going through the year of Adult Catechism with Father (who used to teach at University, not easy for me but KV sailed right through all the tests and homework laughing at me/Mom all the way)


36 posted on 09/05/2010 10:51:22 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010; goat granny

Obama is a ‘practicing’ Muslim.


37 posted on 09/05/2010 10:54:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: Global2010
I think I would like to remain whole.

Wouldn't we all?

38 posted on 09/05/2010 10:55:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: goat granny
Appreciate the correction, but I do believe that it has always been protected by Catholics...but I could be mistaken.

you are

39 posted on 09/05/2010 10:56:24 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: NYer

P.S. If Jesus was able to ‘resurrect’ , then it is likely he did spontaneously combust, and his body burnt to ashes.

Very slowly, and that ‘radiation’ left the image.

This would explain why no one could find the BODY of Jesus.


40 posted on 09/05/2010 11:01:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: maine-iac7

you get the last word....you have the knowledge


41 posted on 09/05/2010 11:05:45 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: maine-iac7

What is your opinion of post 28 and 40 ? I am open to all criticism.


42 posted on 09/05/2010 11:05:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: goat granny; Global2010
We used to make the RC converts rebaptize by (immersion). That didn't apply to Lutherans or Orthodox who'd been baptized the "normal way".

When it came to Baptists they had to learn to no longer say "allegedly Christian church" ~ then the preacher would lean them over backwards for a full immersion AND hold them under extra long just in case.

43 posted on 09/05/2010 11:25:17 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYer

What is fascinating about what is seen on the shroud is that it is a pixel image with a resolution 5 times higher than the best commercial laser printer and it contains 3-D information. Also, the image is not formed by any dye, ink paint or burning, as the cloth fiber itself DOES NOT CONTAIN THE IMAGE! The image is formed only on the thin layer of soapwort which was left on the surface when the cloth was washed and dried during its manufacture.


44 posted on 09/05/2010 11:44:44 AM PDT by kik5150
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To: muawiyah
LOL

KV was baptized as an infant right away (well not so much as I had to go through the single Moms class, yes we knew we had to drink from the “other” faucet) due to his severe physical disability/health not expected to live more than a few months a year topps. (31 blessed and amazing grace years later, Glory be to God, he does save wretches like me).

But when we went Baptist Pastor Charlie (RIP) didn't want to use the Church dipping pool for fear KV would thrash and hit the mic and electrocute all.

So Pastor/plus wife, KV and Me put on swimsuits and went to our Local Spa store (RIP JIM) owner and did a jacuzzi baptism.

45 posted on 09/05/2010 12:00:54 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: UCANSEE2
If Jesus was able to ‘resurrect’ , then it is likely he did spontaneously combust, and his body burnt to ashes.

Nah. Doubting Thomas took care of that idea. More likely is that when life filled him again, the image was burned into the cloth.

46 posted on 09/05/2010 12:02:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Is it my perception this morning or does the crown of thorns look like it flipped up and appears to be the crown of a King?


47 posted on 09/05/2010 12:03:22 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: muawiyah
You use the term *use to* don't know how far back your *use to* goes but for me it was in the 1950's prior to my first and only marriage, there was no immersion, Haven't been in a catholic church that ever had an immersion tank. But then again I haven't been in every catholic church...

Based on my re baptism, I have serious doubt's about *use to* cause it had to be after 1957, the year I was married and I had private instructions from a great priest at Saint Benedict's church, 6 mile road and John R area for those that know Detroit and Highland Park.

Once a week for several months 2 hours long and made my first confession prior to marriage....

Therefore I think your individual experience is not universal.

By the way, Saint Benedict's was one of the most beautiful church's I have ever been in...Very old and build like a cathedral.

There are a few Catholics on this forum that think they have the last word on catholic practice, but unlike the Pope they are not infallible..

48 posted on 09/05/2010 12:04:58 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

Don’t take it personal goat granny.

I am sarcastic/smart alecky by nature.

And I actually have all my front teethe!


49 posted on 09/05/2010 12:06:01 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: maine-iac7

Opps good catch on my flupah of words.


50 posted on 09/05/2010 12:07:40 PM PDT by Global2010
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