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The Palin Puzzle-Support for Israel, has become a very partisan issue [Jews for Palin rolling out]
The Jerusalem Post's Jerusalem Report ^ | September 5, 2010 | Jan Jaben-Eilon

Posted on 09/06/2010 9:45:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 09/06/2010 5:09:53 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WHEN BENYAMIN KORN, 54, a self-described activist, journalist, son of a Reform rabbi, father of four teenagers and a ba’al teshuva (someone who has become religiously observant), launched the Jews for Sarah Palin website in mid-April, he was the butt of jokes by friends and foes alike.


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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2012; groundzeromosque; islam; israel; jews; judaism; mosque; newjersey; obama; palin; pennsylvania; sarahpalin; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 09/06/2010 9:46:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Israelis and other Jews are gradually catching on: Their real friends are the conservatives and the Christians. Not the Imam in the White House.


2 posted on 09/06/2010 9:49:14 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: Yehuda; dennisw; Nachum; Jewbacca; Robert Drobot; death2tyrants; caww; july4thfreedomfoundation; ...
SARAH PALIN PING LIST "ping"

JEWISH AMERICANS FOR SARAH

3 posted on 09/06/2010 9:53:12 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“John Feffer, co-director at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington D.C., believes that Palin – who has never visited Israel – has latched onto the Israel issue to gain conservative support.”

As an evangelical, I really disagree with this statement. What Feffer may not understand (that so many Jews don’t) is that most evangelicals have a deep love for Israel. They are the root and people that brought salvation and God’s love to the world. I’ve no doubt Sarah has a deep abiding love for Israel.


4 posted on 09/06/2010 9:55:58 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Genoa

Obama has been such an awakener. Perhaps he is the morning star of American politics?

I’ve been saying for the longest time now that he is for the first time making people in the midwest aware that democrats are NOT for the “little people”. So many old union and democrats steadfastly vote for dems there because they never realized after JFK what a hard left shift the dems took.

But has he been so powerful to cause the Jews to come to that realization also? That the Democrats are NOT the friends of the Jews, but will let us turn into Europe, where jews are leaving whole towns because of the Islamic scourge?


5 posted on 09/06/2010 10:01:44 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One is left to wonder how her detractors will explain the Israeli flag that was prominent in the Governor’s Office?

Was it a cynical ploy? A well thought out symbolism for her evil plan to someday be President of the United States?

Good luck with that, progressives.

Unfortunately, things will continue to get worse for Israel as long as Obama is in office.

American Jews will eventually catch on.


6 posted on 09/06/2010 10:02:41 AM PDT by turfmann
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If 'Shabbos goy' and Palin's 'mixing of politics and religion' are the problems Jews have with her, then screw them all.

The question these Dem Jews should be asking themselves is, 'what has a Democrat done for you lately'?

7 posted on 09/06/2010 10:05:25 AM PDT by rintense
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Forgot to mention that I wish more Jews would realize how much they are taken advantage of by Dems. This guy seems to get it.


8 posted on 09/06/2010 10:06:29 AM PDT by rintense
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To: turfmann

“the Israeli flag that was prominent in the Governor’s Office”

Oh, she was cynically courting the Jewish-Alaskan vote!


9 posted on 09/06/2010 10:08:16 AM PDT by eCSMaster (It was a priceless Steinway. Net enny mehr!)
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To: onyx

Sarah is a uniter. Some may fight it but more and more are coming around.


10 posted on 09/06/2010 10:08:46 AM PDT by azishot (I can see November from my house!)
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To: I still care
But has he been so powerful to cause the Jews to come to that realization also? That the Democrats are NOT the friends of the Jews...

If there is renewed conflict in the Middle East, and Obama dithers (who doubts this?), I think that will be the coup de grace. (I'm assuming that nothing but trouble will come from the so-called peace talks.)

11 posted on 09/06/2010 10:09:14 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: Genoa

You have to bear in mind that the Post, although not as far to the left as it was in earlier years, is still a left wing publication.

- JP


12 posted on 09/06/2010 10:14:56 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("Conservatism is not a candidate. It's a movement." - Jeffrey Lord)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no patience for some of these fools.


13 posted on 09/06/2010 10:16:45 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While it is true that the majority of American Jews are anti-palin, her supporters would not only have no trouble finding a minyan but also would know what to do in a minyan.
Osama’s Jews wouldn’t know how to put on tefillin, eat shrimp on Friday night and marry ex president’s daughters. And unlike people like me never visit Israel or never send their kids to study there.


14 posted on 09/06/2010 10:17:49 AM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While it is true that the majority of American Jews are anti-palin, her supporters would not only have no trouble finding a minyan but also would know what to do in a minyan.
Osama’s Jews wouldn’t know how to put on tefillin, eat shrimp on Friday night and marry ex president’s daughters. And unlike people like me never visit Israel or never send their kids to study there.


15 posted on 09/06/2010 10:18:06 AM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: azishot

She’s getting some professors on her side, and I really like Pamela Geller too.


16 posted on 09/06/2010 10:18:41 AM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes!!!

Articulate the right policies and they will come.

That she may resonate with women, union members and Jews must have the Dems’ little tootsies quaking in their various and sundry footwear.


17 posted on 09/06/2010 10:20:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jews have consistently supported the Democratic Party ever since Franklin Roosevelt initiated the New Deal in the 1930s.

It seems that myth is never going to die. The Jewish support well predates FDR.

Also, Palin could not have influenced the Jewish vote much since Obama got 78%, in the immediate elections before 2008, the numbers were-76%,79%,78%,and 80%.

18 posted on 09/06/2010 10:20:55 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: I still care

EXACTLY! People show their ignorance when they write ‘their opinions’ which is void of facts.


19 posted on 09/06/2010 10:23:27 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
55 percent of American Jews still approve of the way the Obama Administration is handling US-Israel relations

Then 55 percent of American Jews are either thinking of converting to Islam or they're still sipping on the Obama Kool-Ade.

Seriously though, the West is defending itself against a deadly and devious enemy and this enemy has an agent in the Oval Office. So anyone who is pro-Israel and likes Obama's attitude toward Israel just hasn't been paying attention.

All American Jews repeat after me (and keep repeating until it sinks in):

"Obama loves Muslims and he hates Christians and Jews. H$ll, Obama's good buddies helped organize the Free Gaza Movement."

American Jews may not appreciate Palin because she lives so far out in the wilderness that even fly-over country looks citified by comparison...but they will appreciate her when and if they finally realize that she has the heart of a warrior...and SHE GETS IT ("it" being that the Islamic world is at war with us—the US, Israel, and the West)!!!

20 posted on 09/06/2010 10:26:07 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (This year Christmas is coming in November!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is awesome. I’m going to pass it on to Robert Avrech, founder of the site, Seraphic Press. He’s an orthodox conservative Jew who wrote “Help, I’m a Hollywood Republican.”

Seraphic Press: http://www.seraphicpress.com/
Robert’s Article: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=7529


21 posted on 09/06/2010 10:28:15 AM PDT by bethtopaz ( www.rapturealert.com)
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To: OKSooner

Read later.


22 posted on 09/06/2010 10:29:36 AM PDT by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He also wonders what role religion plays in the Tea Party movement and in Palin’s perspective. “When I see the Tea Party being against [Islamic] terrorism, that’s when religion slips in through the back door.” In fact, Palin’s strong attack against the controversial building of a Muslim center, but often referred to as a mosque, near Ground Zero in New York – site of the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 – has garnered her support both from Christians and Jews.

Nice post - thanks.

23 posted on 09/06/2010 10:32:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (BE the change you wish to see.... Gandhi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
n March, conservative writer Norman Podhoretz published an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal in which he wrote that he would “rather have Sarah Palin sitting in the Oval Office than Barack Obama.”

I agree Mr. Podhoretz, and I think a lot of people do so.

The Kenyan Clown's circus has been an utter disaster. He has set our foreign relations back decades. He has been profligate with our taxpayer money, borrowing madly and creating vast new sinks to throw away even more taxpayer money. He has introduced thousands of pages of new laws. He continually lambastes this country on the world stage, even publicly upbraiding Arizona before the United Nations. He defends the obscene victory mosque at Ground Zero.

These four years will be the blackest stain on our highest office, even worse than FDR's or Wilson's first four.

24 posted on 09/06/2010 10:34:29 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The major problem with American liberal Jews is that most do not practice their religion.

I have two life long Jewish friends and both of them are conservatives in politics and both of them practice their religion {neither is Orthodox}.

They aren't related and neither knows the other one.

Both were successful in business and both have been to Israel and have family living there.

They both hate the fact that so many of their friends and relatives are so liberal.

It reminds me of my dearly departed Mother, an intelligent woman, a MENSA, and a lifelong demonRAT.

Three pictures hung in her living room {not the kids or grandkids} FDR, JFK and Jesus {and Jesus was on the bottom}.

25 posted on 09/06/2010 10:37:56 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Disparagingly, Feffer refers to Palin as a “Shabbos goy.” “She has to do certain things we can’t because we don’t have a Jew in the White House or as Secretary of State. She’ll turn on and off the lights for us. She’s useful, but not a friend.”

You're playing right into the hands of those who peddle unflattering stereotypes about Jews, Mr. Feffer.

26 posted on 09/06/2010 10:39:32 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: hecht; 2ndDivisionVet

You’re exactly right.

The Jews who are liberal/leftist/progressive are SECULAR, and for the most part do not cherish Israel; they see her as a hindrance to the completion of their utopia.


27 posted on 09/06/2010 10:58:07 AM PDT by Canedawg (...still not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: onyx

That is great news!


28 posted on 09/06/2010 11:01:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American Jews love socialism more than they care for Israel or Judaism.


29 posted on 09/06/2010 11:45:26 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: hecht
While it is true that the majority of American Jews are anti-palin, her supporters would not only have no trouble finding a minyan but also would know what to do in a minyan.
Osama’s Jews wouldn’t know how to put on tefillin, eat shrimp on Friday night and marry ex president’s daughters. And unlike people like me never visit Israel or never send their kids to study there.

Very true.

The "true Jewish position" is determined by the Torah, not by the opinions of a majority of Jews. If the majority of Jews determined the "official Jewish position," then the "official Jewish position" would have been to worship the molten calf.

30 posted on 09/06/2010 12:40:35 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Yeshar coach, gamar hasimah tovah


31 posted on 09/06/2010 12:43:09 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: hecht
Yeshar coach, gamar hasimah tovah

Todah. Vegam lekha.

32 posted on 09/06/2010 12:45:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to Jacques Berlinerblau, associate professor of Jewish civilization at Georgetown University, there had been a slight progression of Jews towards the Republican Party but Palin’s candidacy put the brakes on the trend. “Palin hearkened back to American small-town populism, like anti-Semitic Father Charles Coughlin in the 1940s and 50s, and that makes American Jews uncomfortable,” he tells The Report.

What a load. Father Coughlin represented big city Catholicism, not small town America. Furthermore American-style Biblical Fundamentalism has been Zionist for over a century (with antecedents going back ever further). Such a philo-Semitic tradition is unknown to liturgical chr*stianity.

Though, for all his faults (and he certainly had plenty of them), after Israel was established Father Coughlin supported it as a "bulwark against Communism" when most conservatives (other than Biblical Fundamentalists) considered it a social democratic beachhead in the otherwise conservative moslem Middle East.

33 posted on 09/06/2010 12:52:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not Jewish but I’m a South Florida native and have had many Jewish friends and acquaintances over the years. I remember when even flaming liberal Jewish friends were also flaming supporters of Israel. They’re the ones who told me way back in the 1980s the stuff you see on t.v. about the Palestinians was biased and untrue.

I think that in recent years, many American Jews no longer have a real connection with Israel because even their cultural identity as Jews has been watered down to almost nothing. Identification with the Democratic party is one of the few things that remains. But it doesn’t end there. You see, part of the support for the Democrats comes out of a reflexive anti-Republicanism that has been passed down through the generations. Bubbe Gladys who worked in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory saw the GOP as the official party of management. Mom and Pops saw the GOP as the official party of the goyim who didn’t want Jews in the country clubs or the Ivy League. More recently, the perception is that the Republican Party is the Christian Party. It sounds bizarre, but you would be shocked at how many Jews suffer from Christophobia. They think a devout Christian is waiting behind the bushes at every corner to jump out and force them to convert. Now, more religious Jews have come to view evangelicals, traditionalist Catholics, etc. as allies. They know the same religious liberties that protect Christians protect them as well. They share many of the same values. But marginally-observant-to-purely secularist Jews fear religious Christians. They find secularism far less threatening and they have come to see the Democratic Party as the secular party.


34 posted on 09/06/2010 1:28:14 PM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
...an American Jewish Committee poll in September showed that Jews disapproved of Palin by a 54 to 37 percent margin, indicating that the addition of the former Alaskan governor to the Republican ticket was part of the reason for the Jewish vote. Korn is a longtime friend of Jeremy Ben-Ami, executive director of the left-wing, two year- old, pro-Israel, pro-peace group, J Street, who refers to Korn by his nickname. "If 'Buddy' Korn is able to pull together enough Jews who are publicly willing to support Sarah Palin that he could form a minyan (prayer quorum of ten), more power to him... There hasn't been anyone in American politics that I can remember attracting higher negative ratings among Jewish Americans than Sarah Palin."
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


35 posted on 09/06/2010 2:42:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: turfmann; All
One is left to wonder how her detractors will explain the Israeli flag that was prominent in the Governor's Office?

And that was well before she became nationally known when McCain chose her as his VP candidate! That suggests that she displayed the Israeli flag for her own personal reasons, without any prompting from political handlers.

36 posted on 09/06/2010 3:43:42 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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What a load. Father Coughlin represented big city Catholicism, not small town America.

I was take aback by that ill-informed statement by Prof. Berlinerblau as well. Father Coughlin came out of a suburb of Detroit, hardly "small-town." I'm not sure he "represented" big-city Catholicism with his coarse antisemitism, though there was surely more of that going on than in later years. I'm sure ther were some in the Catholic Church who detested Coughlin. And Berlinblau places Coughlin in the wrong time frame: Coughlin's heydey on radio was in the 1930s, coincident with the rise of Nazism in Europe.

Plus, in case Berlinblau doesn't know, Father Coughlin supported Franklin D. Roosevelt for president in 1932!

37 posted on 09/06/2010 4:03:48 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: eCSMaster

Both of them?


38 posted on 09/06/2010 5:45:58 PM PDT by Upbeat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ml/nj; firebrand; Zionist Conspirator; rmlew; dennisw; OldFriend; pabianice; ...
Did anyone notice that every Democrat quoted in this piece made snide and condescending remarks toward Palin and Jewish conservatives in general? For example, what kind of jerk thinks of Palin in comparison to the infamous Father Coughlin?

"American Jews are Democrats at heart," Harris [National Jewish Democratic Council] says.

Well, the Jews here on FR have no heart for the heartless Democrat Party (and the current 'Rat president and Congress in particular), only hatred and revulsion!

39 posted on 09/06/2010 5:53:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Plus, in case Berlinblau doesn't know, Father Coughlin supported Franklin D. Roosevelt for president in 1932!

Yep. "The New Deal is Chr*st's deal." That's what he said.

He dumped Roosevelt because he didn't think he was radical enough. One thing he suggested to fight Communism was to nationalize the Federal Reserve, since Communism is caused by private banks (according to a certain kind of right winger).

Coughlin was originally from Canada, btw.

40 posted on 09/06/2010 5:56:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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To: justiceseeker93; sheik yerbouty; Sarah Barracuda; oswegodeee; Nachum; Yehuda; ...

There are a lot of Conservative Jewish Freepers that many don’t realize or acknowledge.


41 posted on 09/06/2010 6:21:10 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

AMEN! I am married to one! :-)


42 posted on 09/06/2010 6:48:31 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: eCSMaster; Upbeat; All
Oh, she was cynically courting the Jewish-Alaskan vote!

Both of them?

I agree with the point both of you are making, but, just to set the facts straight, there are about 3,000 Jews in Alaska.

43 posted on 09/06/2010 7:33:23 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know that Jewish support for the dems goes way back and has strong historical roots... and I’ve read this thread and the several excellent explanations for that support posted by people here in FR, but I can’t help wondering why there wasn’t more fear of Obama by the Jewish community.

Don’t they know where black liberation thugs like Wright put Jews in their twisted vision of the universe? Basically, the same place Mohammad put them. And it’s not a very good place.

I know the media covered up the Wright stuff as fast as they could, and I know that McCain bent over backwards to tell everyone what a nice guy Obama was, but still... it was out there. Do the “hymies” (to quote another successful black chicago thug) really think they’ll fare well (in the long run) under a regime headed by black muslims and their spiritual allies, like Wright and Obama?


44 posted on 09/06/2010 7:34:49 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: ansel12; samtheman; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; All
The Jewish support [for Democrats] well predates FDR.

Yes, Jews began voting mostly for Democrats, but only about a decade prior to Roosevelt's first presidential candidacy in 1932. The 1920s were when the demographics of Jewish American voters changed dramatically from predominantly German origin to predominantly Eastern European origin, which was a natural result of immigration patterns. Most Jewish immigrants of the mid-nineteenth century came from Germany, but from 1880 to the outset of World War I, much greater numbers came from eastern Europe.

The two groups were very different politically. The earlier arriving, wealthier, and quickly assimilating German Jews tended to vote Republican from the Civil War onward as Lincoln became their icon. But by the 1920s, they had become overwhelmed numerically by the newer arrivals who had a large number of leftists in their midst.

45 posted on 09/06/2010 9:41:33 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Many of them being Trotskyites who left the Soviet Union after Stalin took power.


46 posted on 09/06/2010 9:43:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: justiceseeker93
Yes, Jews began voting mostly for Democrats, but only about a decade prior to Roosevelt's first presidential candidacy in 1932.

1916 and 1920,1924,1928, all were anti-Republican, with Jews voting Democrat or farther left if it was available, like voting 38% Socialist party in 1920, that is a lot more than a decade.

What were those years that they were voting Republican?

47 posted on 09/06/2010 9:49:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“There are a lot of Conservative Jewish Freepers”
***********

We are definitely a minority compared to the rest of the tribe.

L’shanah tovah.


48 posted on 09/07/2010 2:53:18 AM PDT by Canedawg (...still not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Genoa

“Israelis and other Jews are gradually catching on: Their real friends are the conservatives and the Christians. Not the Imam in the White House.”

Israelis have been aware of this for a long time; at one time, the partisan differences were slight and both parties had their anti-semetic fringe.

What has changed is the anti-semetic fringe in the Republican Party (Buchanon, Baker, Ron Paul) are largely on the “outs,” while the anti-semites in the Democratic party (Obama, et al) are in control.


49 posted on 09/07/2010 7:40:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ccmay

“You’re playing right into the hands of those who peddle unflattering stereotypes about Jews, Mr. Feffer.”

He is a little prick, isn’t he?

What is so silly is in my shul, the “shabbos goy” are typically people considering conversion and/or going through a year long process of conversion. Jewish people by choice (which the shabbos goy so often become) are among the most honored and respected people in a shul.

My Rabbi in Israel, who put me on the path to BT, was the son of a “shabbos goy.”


50 posted on 09/07/2010 7:45:53 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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