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Bishop Eddie Long (PICTURES): Who is The Pastor Accused in Gay Sex Scandal?
CBS News ^ | 9/23/10

Posted on 09/23/2010 1:28:42 PM PDT by marshmallow

ATLANTA (CBS/AP) New pictures have surfaced of Bishop Eddie Long, prominent pastor of a 25,000-member megachurch outside Atlanta, as a third man has come forward accusing the anti-gay advocate of coercing him into sex.

CBS News' Erica Hill reports the pastor allegedly sent his accusers numerous photos of himself including at least several of him wearing spandex and workout clothes.

It's not known precisely how the photos surfaced.

B.J. Bernstein, an attorney for the three plaintiffs, said Long sent her clients dozens of e-mails, but they weren't "overly sexual," she said.

Long canceled an interview with the Tom Joyner Morning Show Thursday, opting instead to make his first public response to the sex allegations during a service at his Atlanta-area church on Sunday, according to his lawyer, who appeared on the nationally syndicated radio show in Long's absence.

Attorney Craig Gillen told Joyner that Long took young men on trips as part of a mentoring program, but stands by his denial of claims that he had sex with three of them.

In lawsuits filed this week, three men who were members of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church claimed Long coerced them into sexual relations with gifts including cars, cash and travel when they were 17 or 18 years old. The sprawling church in Lithonia, Ga., about 18 miles outside of Atlanta, counts politicians, celebrities and the county sheriff among its members and hosted four U.S. presidents during the 2006 funeral of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s widow, Coretta Scott King.

One of the claims in the lawsuits is that Long had sexual contact with the young men, who were enrolled in New Birth's ministry for teen boys, during trips he took them on in the U.S. and abroad. Gillen said the travel was part of a mentoring program that..........

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1 posted on 09/23/2010 1:28:45 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I wonder if he ever hooked-up with Ted Haggard?


2 posted on 09/23/2010 1:32:52 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: marshmallow

Baptists have bishops?


3 posted on 09/23/2010 1:33:17 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: marshmallow

Da buff bishop............

4 posted on 09/23/2010 1:33:54 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

Says he’s against homosexual marriage but supported Clinton/Obama? A very confused individual at best.


5 posted on 09/23/2010 1:36:50 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: marshmallow

A couple of those shots are really gay!


6 posted on 09/23/2010 1:37:32 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: marshmallow
In lawsuits filed this week, three men who were members of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church claimed Long coerced them into sexual relations with gifts including cars, cash and travel when they were 17 or 18 years old.

If convicted toss him out on the street. If the law is the young men were old enough that it's not against the law, but the proof is there toss him out on the street.

7 posted on 09/23/2010 1:39:13 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: NYer

Yeah........but I think some of them are self-appointed....... :-)


8 posted on 09/23/2010 1:40:21 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: NYer; marshmallow
Baptists have bishops?

Baptist churches are independent. Usually they designate people as Pastors and Elders.

9 posted on 09/23/2010 1:41:54 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Age of consent in Georgia is 16.

Therefore, these 17 and 18 year olds are simply gay prostitutes.


10 posted on 09/23/2010 1:43:21 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: wmfights

Age of consent in Georgia is 16.

Therefore, these 17 and 18 year olds are simply gay prostitutes.


11 posted on 09/23/2010 1:43:29 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: marshmallow

A stories about gays with characters named “BJ” and “Long”?

You gotta be kidding me.....


12 posted on 09/23/2010 1:48:46 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: wmfights

How does one get to be a Baptist Bishop? Serious question.


13 posted on 09/23/2010 1:48:59 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

By personal Consecration?


14 posted on 09/23/2010 1:51:13 PM PDT by Gman (Anglican Priest)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
One declares oneself to be "bishop".

Who's to say him nay?

15 posted on 09/23/2010 1:51:55 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

Self made bishops are often seen in black churches ..usually they have no training or denominational ordination or OVERSIGHT


16 posted on 09/23/2010 1:52:05 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (........Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:29 )
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To: trumandogz
Therefore, these 17 and 18 year olds are simply gay prostitutes.

Then it's going to be up to the Elders to determine if the accusations are true or not. If true, toss the bum out on the street.

17 posted on 09/23/2010 1:52:17 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: trumandogz

This link has already been posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2594647/posts

Marshmellow, and several other Catholic FReepers are on a quest to somehow rehab the Catholic Churches handling of their own priest sex scandal via posting whatever accusations they can find of a Protestant Clergyman engaging in the same behavior.

Sad really, it is what it is.


18 posted on 09/23/2010 1:54:24 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
How does one get to be a Baptist Bishop?

If you're the Pastor of a church and you want to be called Bishop and the church wants to go along with it you can do it.

Baptist churches are organized in the same way as the Christian churches of the Apostolic Era. Leadership is determined by the congregation. We do not have a hierarchical structure.

19 posted on 09/23/2010 1:55:48 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: padre35; marshmallow
Marshmellow, and several other Catholic FReepers are on a quest to somehow rehab the Catholic Churches handling of their own priest sex scandal via posting whatever accusations they can find of a Protestant Clergyman engaging in the same behavior.

What a great opportunity to show the difference in how Born Again Christians respond. I haven't seen any Evangelical Christians hoping on this thread making excuses, or condemning the victims. I don't believe my views are dissimilar from other Evangelical Christians, get to the truth and if he's guilty toss him out on the street.

20 posted on 09/23/2010 2:00:04 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Exactly, no need for a ponderous process of reviews ontop of reviews if he is guilty, and there is no way of knowing either way, then bounce him out of the pulpit and move forwards.

No need for (PICTURES) captions and the rest of it, out ya go.


21 posted on 09/23/2010 2:03:59 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: marshmallow

He looks really gay in that picture, a lot of those “buff boys” are gay.


22 posted on 09/23/2010 2:06:38 PM PDT by decisis
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To: padre35
Exactly, no need for a ponderous process of reviews ontop of reviews if he is guilty,...

Amen

I'm sure he'll have some members who support him, but if they are 24/7 Christians he won't be leading that church much longer.

23 posted on 09/23/2010 2:08:15 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: marshmallow

Let’s just try him in the media and forget about any semblance of fairness.

After all, I believe everything the MSM says. /s


24 posted on 09/23/2010 2:19:06 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: RnMomof7

So it’s a self-appointed title?


25 posted on 09/23/2010 2:21:28 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: padre35
Marshmellow, and several other Catholic FReepers are on a quest to somehow rehab the Catholic Churches handling of their own priest sex scandal via posting whatever accusations they can find of a Protestant Clergyman engaging in the same behavior.

So can we say from this that only Catholic sex abuse stories are to be published on FR? Is that your point?

As for "posting whatever accusations they can find", this story has been all over CNN and the other major news outlets all day. It's hard to get away from. It is big news. There was no need to go digging for it. The only reason I posted it was because it was nowhere to be seen in the Religion Forum. Surprising, no?? I'd have thought those who've built a track record posting Catholic stories would have broken this. But no. This is not some obscure story kicking around the blogs. It concerns a very high profile megachurch pastor and apparently nobody really wants to know about it, including you.

As for "being on a quest to rehab the Catholic Church", the Church has no need of rehab. It's not a corporation whose mission depends on public relations. It's coped with scandals for 2,000 years and will continue to do so. I post Catholic news, almost exclusively. Good and bad. However, I am more than happy to rebut some of the tripe which gets posted about the Catholic Church around here.

If you think I'm on a quest, I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky. Good luck with sorting through all the Catholic news I post. You might learn something while you're reading it.

I'll wait.

26 posted on 09/23/2010 2:24:40 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

Thanks for posting this.

My feeling is just like the military, all churches have been targeted by the gay lobby for the one and only purpose.

To destroy them.

If they can get churches to fight among themselves in the process, so much the better as its cheaper and takes less resources.


27 posted on 09/23/2010 2:33:20 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: marshmallow

You will wait long, this is not the first time this sort of thing has come up.

And for what point, exactly? What is the point of (PICTURES) in the OP? Has there been a trial?

Maybe last yr I had a mulitpage discussion with, I’ll say, 3 devote Catholics who cited a study based on the mid 80’s to 2000 comparing the Catholic Priest sexual abuse cases to Protestant accusations and the gist of it was, “see, Protestant Churches have an even worse problem! the Southern Baptist Convention will not start a database of the accusations because there are soo many of them”!

To what end? “They are doing it too”?

And exactly when has CNN ever been considered even fair, let alone quotable in the Religion Forum?


28 posted on 09/23/2010 2:56:20 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: OpusatFR

Exactly, and I find that the most troubling aspect of all of this, since when do Christians conduct such trials by media?

What does Scripture instruct to deal with such situations?

Aren’t there clear mechanisms in Scripture for this exact situation?

From my point of view, there has been no real evidence to consider (take a look at the PICTURES oneself) and no pleadings made save for a rebuttal, and yet here it is.


29 posted on 09/23/2010 3:00:56 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35

For the record:

I’m Catholic.


30 posted on 09/23/2010 3:08:26 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: marshmallow
Bush's Fault!

Nice try CBS.

31 posted on 09/23/2010 3:18:13 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: padre35
You will wait long, this is not the first time this sort of thing has come up.

What "sort of thing"?

I'm asking you a simple question which you've refused to answer. Is it your position that only Catholic sex scandals have a place here?

And for what point, exactly? What is the point of (PICTURES) in the OP? Has there been a trial?

What is the point of the pictures? Presumably they form part of the evidence in the case. Has there been a trial? No. But since when has that ever been a precondition for reporting news? Arrests and allegations are reported all the time. Including cases which involve the Catholic Church.

Would you prefer it if the pictures were suppressed?

Maybe last yr I had a mulitpage discussion with, I’ll say, 3 devote Catholics who cited a study based on the mid 80’s to 2000 comparing the Catholic Priest sexual abuse cases to Protestant accusations and the gist of it was, “see, Protestant Churches have an even worse problem! the Southern Baptist Convention will not start a database of the accusations because there are soo many of them”!

I feel your pain but I've never been a party to that discussion. The "your scandal is worse than ours" food fight is not something in which I'm interested.

You're arguing with the wrong guy.

And exactly when has CNN ever been considered even fair, let alone quotable in the Religion Forum?

This has nothing to do with CNN. Long has been accused by three men and of that there is absolutely no doubt. It's everywhere, not just CNN and Long's own lawyer admits the accusations although he denies any guilt, of course. So CNN and CBS are simply reporting the allegations.

Again, you made allegations about my motives for posting this which were highly improper. You suggested I was on "a quest", while refusing to produce any evidence to back that up and you trashed me in a post directed to another Freeper without having the courtesy to ping me. Another no-no.

Are you disputing the allegations against Long? Are you suggesting that all news of the allegations be suppressed? Do you consider that this news should not be on FR?

What exactly do you want?

32 posted on 09/23/2010 3:20:10 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

“What “sort of thing”?

Hmm, we were just discussing that in post 22 or so.

“I’m asking you a simple question which you’ve refused to answer. Is it your position that only Catholic sex scandals have a place here?”

Really? I missed that question so allow me to answer:

No, they have no place anywhere, there should be none to begin with here or wherever.

Well, knowing FR’s software, I’ll keep this short, one’s inclusion of (PICTURES) was, by your own admission “they form part of the evidence in the case”

So it is you intention to conduct a trial by media, what case, exactly, are we trying? Can we make motions, depose witnesses, rely on CNN to completely inform us on the details of the case?


33 posted on 09/23/2010 3:42:47 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: OpusatFR

Was that you I had that multi page multi reply discussion over this sort of thing with?


34 posted on 09/23/2010 3:43:53 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35

Nope.

With my posts, you’d remember me.


35 posted on 09/23/2010 3:45:54 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: padre35

It appears that you are concerned about the publicity this story has generated, but this is an “open” thread, IIRC.


36 posted on 09/23/2010 3:52:49 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: padre35

That is not a link to *this* source.


37 posted on 09/23/2010 3:54:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

What does that mean: IIRC


38 posted on 09/23/2010 3:54:42 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR

If I Recall Correctly. Sorry.


39 posted on 09/23/2010 3:56:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: OpusatFR

Not offhand, sorry, can you refresh my memory?

And to be clear, I do not know, and cannot know whether Long did this, or did not, or even the amount of truth to be found on either side of the accusation.

What troubles me is when any Christian leader, Catholic or Protestant is tried by media..by their fellow Christians.

That is how the world behaves and to my view, that should stop.


40 posted on 09/23/2010 3:58:03 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35

You misunderstand, I haven’t discussed this issue with you.

And, yes, I agree that too much of the “Trial” is done in the media without knowing the facts.

It won’t stop unfortunately. Christians are held to a different standard. Catholics are held to an incredibly high standard.

The sin of one becomes the sin of all.

Many people have an interest in delighting in others’ failures.

Good night.


41 posted on 09/23/2010 4:08:02 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: trisham

“it appears that you are concerned about the publicity..”

Is that what you think?


42 posted on 09/23/2010 4:08:51 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35

You tell me. Are you concerned?


43 posted on 09/23/2010 4:11:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marshmallow; padre35
I challenge you to post a link to any previous stories I've posted of Protestant hanky panky.
The just is first accuser of himself:
his friend cometh, and shall search him.
-- Proverbs 18:17
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44 posted on 09/23/2010 4:56:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: NYer
So it’s a self-appointed title?

Exactly ... the greek biblical word bishop can also be translated "overseer" so I guess they just use it as they will

45 posted on 09/23/2010 5:12:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (........Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mat 22:29 )
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To: wmfights
Maybe Bishop Long's behavior is proof that Donatists were Anabaptist since the behaviors and dispositions of both groups appear to match. To bad the Emperor Constantine isn't still around so Long could appeal.

However, if this theory is valid, then the Baptists would appear to have a valid claim for apostolic succession to parallel that other group.

What say you?

46 posted on 09/23/2010 5:51:24 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: bronx2
Typical
47 posted on 09/23/2010 6:34:22 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: trisham

“You tell me. Are you concerned”

Nope, my concerns:

-The willingness of Christians to try other Christians based solely on media accounts and to pass judgment on them before they have any basis for so doing.

-The fact that there appears to be an amazing stupor in Church Leadership’s eyes to exactly how the World searches high and low for anything to accuse Christian leadership of engaging in malfeasance.

When Christ said ‘if the world hates you, remember it hated me first” he was not talking to the air, the World truly does hate what even claims to be good, let alone actually is good, so extra precautions should have been a part of every day life for the Church no matter the denomination.

The World is going to say what it says at all times, however the Church should make it a priority not to prove what the World says about it to be true.


48 posted on 09/23/2010 7:21:34 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Alex Murphy; padre35
Four...... out of how many total posts? I mean just this year. And two of those you've linked to have nothing to do with Protestant clerical sexual abuse. The ordination of homosexual clergy in the Anglican Church pertains to the issue of the breakup of the Anglican communion.

So it's two posts out of how many? Work that out as a percentage.

It will be less than 1%.

If you survey a longer time period it will probably be less than 0.1%.

Is that supposed to prove the point that "I'm on a quest"?

49 posted on 09/23/2010 9:11:40 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: padre35
So it is you intention to conduct a trial by media, what case, exactly, are we trying? Can we make motions, depose witnesses, rely on CNN to completely inform us on the details of the case?

Imputing motives seems to be a bad habit of yours. I'm not putting anyone on trial.

And why do you keep blathering about CNN? The news is everywhere.

It's really simple.

If a civil lawsuit is filed alleging sexual impropriety by a megachurch pastor, that is news whether you like it or not. Irrespective of guilt or innocence.

If you think it isn't then walk us through the alternative. Let me start you out. The alternative is to keep it quiet. IMHO, that would be far worse in the long run. Why? Because news would leak out one way or another, which in turn would lead to rumors, many of them false, which would in turn would lead to accusations of cover-ups and fixes. Is that how you'd prefer this to unfold?

Far better to be open about it publish it and let the cards fall where they may.

50 posted on 09/23/2010 9:23:23 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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