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Not Letting Dad Die
Headline Bistro ^ | 9/24/10 | Brian Caulfield

Posted on 09/24/2010 2:20:17 PM PDT by Headline Bistro

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1 posted on 09/24/2010 2:20:21 PM PDT by Headline Bistro
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To: Headline Bistro; wagglebee; metmom; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW; ...

Death eaters never sleep.


2 posted on 09/24/2010 2:25:53 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Headline Bistro

Everyone should have an advanced directive. Don’t leave this decision on the shoulders of your loved ones when they are emotionally upset already. (And certainly don’t leave it on the shoulders of those who you thought were your loved ones, but turned out to be selfish brutes.)


3 posted on 09/24/2010 2:26:35 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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We shouldn’t be required to fill out a form requesting our basic rights. What ever happened to just not killing people?


4 posted on 09/24/2010 2:30:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: MEGoody

On the other hand, I had a heart attack from electrolyte imbalance after being sick with a stomach virus for four days. The cardiologist wanted to put in a metal stent (I’m allergic) and told my kids I might not make it out of the hospital alive if he didn’t.

I refused, my kids refused, my sister (who has my medical power of attorney) refused on the basis of my allergy, which the doctor ridiculed.

I left after four days, and that was two years ago. The stent would have failed and inflammation would have killed me, you HAVE to be careful with doctors.


5 posted on 09/24/2010 2:37:01 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: BykrBayb; metmom; little jeremiah; P-Marlowe; DJ MacWoW; Headline Bistro; MEGoody
We shouldn’t be required to fill out a form requesting our basic rights. What ever happened to just not killing people?

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No kidding!

6 posted on 09/24/2010 2:40:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Headline Bistro

Government mandates have made these situations very difficult for physicians, damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
Wait ‘til you get a taste of electronic medical records. It’s more than just putting your info on a hardrive. My husband has quit after two weeks at a government funded clinic because he was spending his day with his face stuck on the computer answering all the questions the software forces him to answer. He couldn’t tell you what the patient looked like after the visit. Questions included guns in the home, stds, (clinic is fighting questions re: sexual preference).....
We’ve got to get government out of medical care.
We need tort reform.
So doctors and nurses can deliver the quality care they really do want to provide.


7 posted on 09/24/2010 2:50:36 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: BykrBayb

This is not about killing people. This is about continuance of care.


8 posted on 09/24/2010 2:52:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

That’s a pleasant enough sounding euphemism.


9 posted on 09/24/2010 2:55:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

That’s a pleasant enough sounding euphemism.

Probably. My FinL had end stage emphysema in the mid seventies. His only option was to be tethered to a resperator for short time of extra and painful life. The family discussed and decided not to continue to that level of care and he died the next day.

Some technology needs to be discussed.

Pnemonia is known as old man’s friend for good reasons.


10 posted on 09/24/2010 3:04:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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Placemarker

And let me know if any trolls show up.


11 posted on 09/24/2010 3:06:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WestwardHo

The last few times we’re seen our doctor, it was clear that he was very concerned about the future of medical care. He is a gifted, compassionate man who spends all the time we need with him and then some. We left his office deeply touched by his commitment.


12 posted on 09/24/2010 3:11:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Chickensoup
Some technology needs to be discussed.

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Isn't that why we're all on this thread?

13 posted on 09/24/2010 3:15:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Some technology needs to be discussed.

Absolutely.


14 posted on 09/24/2010 3:27:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Excellent. You start. :)


15 posted on 09/24/2010 3:30:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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My father-in-law went to the hospital for a short stay. Tests revealed he was full of cancer, and desperately ill.
His oncologist had to deliver a lot of bad news. Words fail to describe his ability to explain the details of Earl’s disease, and yet with incredible sensitivity and kindness.
Unforgettable.


16 posted on 09/24/2010 3:31:10 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: Headline Bistro

About 10 years ago my mother had to go to the emergency room. All they saw was a sick old woman, who looked like she was at death’s door.

She had only been in the ER about 30 minutes when I arrived and was met by a doctor just outside where she was being worked on—tubes being inserted, etc.—and he started talking about pulling the plug. I loudly and adamantly informed him that I didn’t want to talk about pulling the plug as she had only been there for a short time and anyway, she would walk out of there.

Side note: My mother later told me she heard everything that was said and my comment that she would “walk out of there” was very powerful.

She lived another 10 years or so and what was her contribution to society during those years?

She became a foster mother for her 7-year-old granddaughter for about six months. She gave love, guidance, wisdom and devotion to her five children for those years. She played the organ every Sunday at her church Sunday School for those years.

She gave a home to two of her grown but slightly off-balance children for those years. She cooked for them, too. She gave me the opportunity to care for her and look after her for those years. She painted my bathroom, she gave and received gifts, she shopped, she annoyed me sometimes, she made me laugh, she made me think for those years. She kept her roses blooming so I guess she brought beauty into the world during those years. She was a magnificent grandmother for those years.

I don’t know if the powers that be would think her life for those last 10 years was a waste of resources, but it certainly wasn’t to her family.


17 posted on 09/24/2010 3:32:36 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: WestwardHo

There are still doctors and other medical professionals who believe in the Hippocratic Oath. May God bless them.


18 posted on 09/24/2010 3:38:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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the growing euthanasia ethic

I'm not a doctor, but I know they can severely struggle with telling someone of an impending death. However, I can't help but wonder if justifying euthanasia is philosophically pushed to help mitigate the Doctor's angst, and that is not a reason for anyone to die. If in doubt, doctors need to "Buck UP!" They are not veterinarians after all.

19 posted on 09/24/2010 3:41:49 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Auntie Mame

You were blessed with her, as she was with you. It is my firm belief that we must be advocates for our loved ones when they are most helpless. Relying on the goodness of others can be a grave mistake.


20 posted on 09/24/2010 3:41:53 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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