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Theologian Says Islam, Christianity Share Basic Beliefs
http://www.winonadailynews.com/ ^ | September 28, 2010 | Jerome Christenson

Posted on 09/28/2010 1:44:42 PM PDT by Biggirl

Think of it as a sibling rivalry on a cosmic scale. No two faiths share so many fundamental beliefs as do Christianity and Islam, yet their adherents often appear to be locked in irreconcilable conflict.

Noted Islamic theologian and scholar Sheikh Odeh A. Muhawesh shared his view Monday at Winona State University of the similarities and often exaggerated differences between Christians and Muslims.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: academicbias; christianity; considerthesource; islam; kitman; lietothekufir; lifeamongthekufir; muhawesh; society; taqiya; taqiyah; taqiyya
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This takes me by surprise.
1 posted on 09/28/2010 1:44:47 PM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

John 14:6

Nuff said.


2 posted on 09/28/2010 1:47:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: Biggirl

Not.

No.

Never.

Consider the source:

“”Noted Islamic theologian and scholar Sheikh Odeh A. Muhawesh”””


3 posted on 09/28/2010 1:47:31 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Biggirl

To the headline: what a frealling moron.


4 posted on 09/28/2010 1:48:27 PM PDT by svcw
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To: fishtank

Taqiyya...


5 posted on 09/28/2010 1:48:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Biggirl

But there’s that chopping off body parts thing...


6 posted on 09/28/2010 1:49:30 PM PDT by steveo (2010 never again)
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To: svcw

If it were the Christian “theologian” stating this, I’d say he was a dumbass.
Since it’s the Muslim “theologian” stating this, I’ll say he’s simply a liar.


7 posted on 09/28/2010 1:49:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Amen.

What takes me by surprise is that this guy is trying to make it like Christians and Muslims have THINGS in common when we do not.

Also the passage from John 14:6 sums it best. Jesus is the WAY to the Father.


8 posted on 09/28/2010 1:50:23 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

“No two faiths share so many fundamental beliefs as do Christianity and Islam”

... accept Christianity and Judaism.

Duh!


9 posted on 09/28/2010 1:50:35 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: MrB

Or a dumbass liar.


10 posted on 09/28/2010 1:50:54 PM PDT by svcw
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To: MrB

You got it.


11 posted on 09/28/2010 1:51:12 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

Now that is comedy


12 posted on 09/28/2010 1:51:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Biggirl

Since both Christianity and Islam are based on Judaism, it is not surprising that they share many more beliefs than religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism or Shintoism. (How modern-day followers of those religions interpret those underlying tenets is another matter entirely.)


13 posted on 09/28/2010 1:52:27 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Biggirl

Nonsense.


14 posted on 09/28/2010 1:53:10 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Biggirl

There is a multi-part 3-hour lecture by Walid Shoebat on YouTube that uses the Bible and the Koran to PROVE that Islam is of satan.

I’ll let you look it up if you’re interested.

This man is using Taqiyya and Kitman. You cannot believe anything that a Muslim says . . . because he is encouraged to lie to promote Islam.


15 posted on 09/28/2010 1:53:55 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (ARREST Barry Dunham Soetoro "Soebarkah" Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama for FRAUD!)
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To: steveo

Here’s at least 5 BIG BIG BIG differences....................................................................................................................................................

The deity of Jesus.

Resurrection of Jesus.

The fatherhood of God the Father.

Original Sin.

Substitutionary atonement (they don’t even believe Jesus was even on the cross).


16 posted on 09/28/2010 1:54:17 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Biggirl

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam is fundamentally opposed to our Constitution and freedom, including religious freedom It wants to silence any dissent by terrorism and murder.


17 posted on 09/28/2010 1:54:33 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: svcw
Theologian Says Islam, Christianity Share Basic Beliefs

To the headline: what a frealling moron.

Apparently you don't know that Islam is one of the oldest and most successful of the Christian heresies. If everything Judeo/Christian were to be removed from the Koran, there would be little left. It started out by trying to expropriate the mojo of Christianity and Judaism, the two religions of the most advanced societies in the Arabian Peninsula in Muhammed's day, in order to get religious credibility. Like other cults, to claim legitimacy it posited a connection to the Old Testament patriarchs (in the case of Islam, thorugh Ishmael, son of Hagar; in the case of others, such as British Israelism and the American version, through the 10 lost tribes of Israel) and claimed that the truths about Judaism and Christianity had been suppressed by religious leaders, necessitating the reform by Muhammed who was chosen by God for the task. In other words, without Christianity and Judaism, there would be no such religion as Islam.
18 posted on 09/28/2010 1:56:46 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Biggirl

I’m a “theologian”, too. My tagline sums up my position.


19 posted on 09/28/2010 1:58:12 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: Biggirl

Compare and contrast the life of Christ to that of the pedophile, rapist, murderer, slave-trader, liar, pirate, genocidal savage Mohammed.

Doesn’t look like they have much in common at all.


20 posted on 09/28/2010 1:58:49 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Since both Christianity and Islam are based on Judaism, it is not surprising that they share many more beliefs than religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism or Shintoism. (How modern-day followers of those religions interpret those underlying tenets is another matter entirely.)

Islam is based on both Christianity and Judaism. They were the two main religions of the first permanent cities of the high tech Jewish and Christian kingdoms of the Arabian Peninsula at the time Muhammed and the other Bedouins were nomads.
21 posted on 09/28/2010 1:58:55 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: GeronL

Well it took me by surprise that we have this gentleman trying to find what makes both Christianity and Islam alike. I am very surprise myself I did not start laughing myself.


22 posted on 09/28/2010 1:59:18 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Honestly, I haven't heard of Kitman before.....

Taqqiya, yes....

23 posted on 09/28/2010 2:01:13 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Biggirl
The Koran incorporated elements of the Christian Bible while denying Jesus' divinity, His death by crucifixion, and His resurrection.

Mohammed claimed that the Bible got it wrong and he was there to set the record "straight".

It is the faith of an antiChrist deceiver who leads the flock astray. His is the only major religion that acknowledges Jesus Christ and yet also denying Him.

Might as well talk of how some plagiarist and the original author "agree on so many things".

24 posted on 09/28/2010 2:01:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Biggirl

Liar. Ask him to read what is inscribed on the abomination they call the dome of the rock.


25 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: Biggirl

It’s called plagiarism.


26 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:32 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I still like peanut butter)
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To: Biggirl
Noted Islamic theologian says it all.

Still trying to convert away from Jesus Christ

27 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:40 PM PDT by fml
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To: HighlyOpinionated

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/25320

Tradecraft. Persona. Deception. Disinformation. Cover: Western operational terms and techniques. But, Islamic terrorists have their own terms: taqiyya (pronounced tak-e-ya) : precautionary dissimulation or deception and keeping one’s convictions secret and a synonymous term, kitman: mental reservation and dissimulation or concealment of malevolent intentions...

Taqiyya and kitman or ‘holy hypocrisy’ has been diffused throughout Arabic culture for over fourteen hundred years since it was developed by Shiites as a means of defence and concealment of beliefs against Sunni unbelievers. As the Prophet said: ‘he who keeps secrets shall soon attain his objectives.’

The skilful use of taqiyya and kitman was often a matter of life and death against enemies; it is also a matter of life and death to many contemporary Islamic terrorists. As so often in the history of Islam, a theological doctrine became operational.


28 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:40 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Biggirl

Well, you had to expect it would not be a Christian Theologian expressing such an opinion. Just read the Koran, and you will understand that Islam, which is a cult that is out to conquer the world and not a religion, has little in common with Christianity because on the significant issues, it is at odds with Christianity.


29 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:45 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: Biggirl

Christianity for one being 700 years older, for starters and with a prophet that didn’t rape, pillage and massacre


30 posted on 09/28/2010 2:02:56 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Westbrook
Compare and contrast the life of Christ to that of the pedophile, rapist, murderer, slave-trader, liar, pirate, genocidal savage Mohammed.

Doesn’t look like they have much in common at all.
Yet compare the timelines and events surrounding the Muslim Mahdi and the Christian AntiChrist and it's practically one for one...scary....the Christian AntiChrist IS the Mahdi!!!
31 posted on 09/28/2010 2:03:34 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Westbrook
Compare and contrast the life of Christ to that of the pedophile, rapist, murderer, slave-trader, liar, pirate, genocidal savage Mohammed.

Doesn’t look like they have much in common at all.
Yet compare the timelines and events surrounding the Muslim Mahdi and the Christian AntiChrist and it's practically one for one...scary....the Christian AntiChrist IS the Mahdi!!!
32 posted on 09/28/2010 2:03:46 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Biggirl
Noted Islamic theologian and scholar Sheikh Odeh A. Muhawesh


33 posted on 09/28/2010 2:04:24 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Biggirl
Theologian Says Islam, Christianity Share Basic Beliefs

How such a statement could ever be made is by admitting that to the extent Mohamhead totally plagerized, copied, and twisted old and new testament Biblical scripture to create a new Satanic religion based on the belief that Jews were originally given the Word of God and corrupted it, only to have Christians try and correct it, but also corrupt the Word even further, only to be "corrected" by Mohamhead 600 years later..... then I suppose, in a demented and twisted way of thinking about it, the author can say that Islam and Christianity "share" basic beliefs.

34 posted on 09/28/2010 2:05:20 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Destroy Obamunism.)
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To: Biggirl

God said this theologian is both a liar and a fool, idiot!


35 posted on 09/28/2010 2:07:11 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Battle Ground Vermont..if we make Leahy a toss-up then all Dems are in trouble..)
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To: aruanan

Thanks for the little history lesson. I will repeat what I wrote: what a frealling moron.


36 posted on 09/28/2010 2:07:45 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Biggirl

What takes me by surprise is that this guy is trying to make it like Christians and Muslims have THINGS in common when we do not.

Libs have been doing that for years, they try to reduce everything to a common denominator so no one culture, religion, language is better than the other.

But we know different and will not be fooled....that is truly the beauty of having the truth and the light in your being.

Amen!

37 posted on 09/28/2010 2:09:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: aruanan
Islam is based on both Christianity and Judaism.

True, but Christianity is itself based on Judaism.

38 posted on 09/28/2010 2:10:36 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: fishtank

Yes, of course. But other than that . . .


39 posted on 09/28/2010 2:12:44 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: a fool in paradise

That is why I just do not understand the double standard, of claiming to honor Jesus and then not honoring what this very same Jesus did.


40 posted on 09/28/2010 2:14:53 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

That might be because Islam is basically a Christian heresy.


41 posted on 09/28/2010 2:15:07 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Biggirl

islam is the exact opposite of Biblical Christianity ,polar opposites share no similarities.

islams god is NOT the God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob .
The God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob does not give the command to kill Christians and Jews. islams allah has 99 names in arabic that are pretty descriptive of who their god is ... one of these names translates to “The Deceiver”
The God of Abraham , Issac and Jacob is no deceiver and does not lie , they are not the same .

islams jesus is NOT Jesus the Messiah .
They deny Jesus divinity , say he did not die on the cross and deny that he rose again . If their allah is God and they claim he is the same why do they also say that he has no son if they claim their jesus is Jesus

In islams book you can read about their jesus and he is fighting the Israel and whom they call the Dajal in a finale battle whose description is very similar to the battle in the book of Revelations. If their jesus is the same as Jesus the Messiah in the book of Revelations then why is that Jesus in Revelations comes back to SAVE Israel from the Antichrist and her enemies .

By their book islams jesus comes to fight and kill the Jews , by the Bible Jesus comes to Save the Jews from their enemies ... how can these two be the same Jesus ?

If you consider yourself a Christian and you think the moslems are right then you must not believe a word in the scriptures.... you have been deceived.

click on my name to learn the truth about islam.


42 posted on 09/28/2010 2:16:00 PM PDT by Lera
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To: JSDude1

The person who wrote the original article is the one who has been mislead. What I am just pointing out is how people will try to put bad things in a good light.


43 posted on 09/28/2010 2:17:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“His is the only major religion that acknowledges Jesus Christ and yet also denying Him.”

Jews do the same thing as well. Islam tries to say you can have him, but not have him, Jews just say he was a man and a rabbi, but that’s all.

There are some similarities between Islam and Christianity, but the basic beliefs are very, very different.


44 posted on 09/28/2010 2:18:14 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12

Yup. . and the verse you gave, too. (John 14:6)

And then there’s that terrorism thing, too. Guess they’re trying the “lots in common” tactic today.


45 posted on 09/28/2010 2:18:20 PM PDT by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!)
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To: Twinkie

It’s funny how “liberal Christians” dismiss the exclusivity of Christianity. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves.

But, like I tell them every time,
you can’t name His Name and call Him a liar at the same time.


46 posted on 09/28/2010 2:19:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: fishtank
Here’s at least 5 BIG BIG BIG differences

On the level of "high concept," Judaism, Christanity and Islam all believe in a single god, who created the universe at a single moment in time, who set rules for human conduct, transmitted those rules to humanity through a written book, and will judge humans after their deaths. Other major world religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, animism, etc.), do not share most of these beliefs.

47 posted on 09/28/2010 2:20:00 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lera

What I am pointing out is the deceptions being presented out there. The Muslim god is NOT and I REPEAT, NOT the God of the Bible.


48 posted on 09/28/2010 2:20:48 PM PDT by Biggirl (GO UCONN FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!! :)=^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

Islam is never a thing to be put in a good light, and yes I am willing to debate theology, I am not just an Islam hater for the sake of it, or reactionary.


49 posted on 09/28/2010 2:25:43 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Battle Ground Vermont..if we make Leahy a toss-up then all Dems are in trouble..)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Don’t forget these warnings against new prophets sporting newer testimonies. Moslems and Mohammed have plenty to answer for already. I don’t know how Mormons and JW’s get around these verses.

Rev 22:18

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Rev 22:19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Agape


50 posted on 09/28/2010 2:26:56 PM PDT by STD (Witnessing Another Greek Tragedy as Our Chief Executive Implodes.)
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