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Bryan Fischer: Firefighters did the Christian thing in letting house burn
The Examiner ^ | 10/7/10 | Joe Speranzella SFO

Posted on 10/07/2010 7:04:54 AM PDT by Catholic Examiner

Greed over need. What would Jesus do?


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: opinion; vanity
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To: LADY J
From what I’ve heard - 3 dogs and a cat died in that house fire!!!

And neighbors - ALL of whom had paid the $75 themselves - said this guy had at least 20 minutes to rescue the animals from his house before the fire became too dangerous to enter.

21 posted on 10/07/2010 7:27:02 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: NEMDF

Yes he did and the insurance co. is in the process of paying off!!


22 posted on 10/07/2010 7:27:37 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Venturer
While I've been on the side of the firefighters in this instance, I can see your point.

The initial refusal to respond does bother me--because of the fact that someone's life could have been in danger. They should have responded to ensure safety of lives if nothing else.

23 posted on 10/07/2010 7:29:07 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Hodar

Heh-heh, didn’t you learn your lesson yesterday?

};^)


24 posted on 10/07/2010 7:29:12 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: NEMDF
Please tell me how you get financing with any bank with this clause?

You could perhaps put in a call to Barney Frank.

When the phone don't ring, you'll know it's him.

25 posted on 10/07/2010 7:29:25 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: al_c

“Put the darn thing out, then fine the guy for not paying his fee.”

I don’t think they have the power to fine anyone. This is a volunteer department.


26 posted on 10/07/2010 7:29:50 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Roccus

I’m nothing if not tenatious, predictable and stubborn.

:-D


27 posted on 10/07/2010 7:30:29 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Thank you!

It’s amazaing to see how many people here simply do not get that - and yet claim to be conservative.

My personal belief is that reliousness simply may not be compatible with conservatism, and that belief just keeps getting stronger and stronger.


28 posted on 10/07/2010 7:32:36 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: stuartcr
Someone who embarks upon a gratuitous undertaking is liable for damages if he fails to complete his task in a staisfactory manner, all of the moralizing of internet heroes notwithstanding.
29 posted on 10/07/2010 7:33:50 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: 1rudeboy

In a way, the story of the TALENTS in the Bible can be applied to this question. Even better is the parable of the Ten Virgins.

The answer in those parables is, If you don’t pay for fire/rescue services, don’t whine when you find yourself out on the street. If you won’t help share the cost to the community, why should the community share with you.


30 posted on 10/07/2010 7:34:53 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: NEMDF

Having homeowners insurance is not the same as paying a voluntary assessment for the volunteer fire department.

If there was a mortgage the lender would require homeowners insurance or they would charge the homeowner for a policy the lender takes out - at a much higher price.

Wonder if the house was paid off and if it was, there would be no requirement for a homeowners policy.


31 posted on 10/07/2010 7:35:23 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Hodar

I believe it is a city fire department supported by the tax payers...so those taxpayers are expected to pick up the tab for a non tax payers loss. This is about personal responsibility...this guy failed to exercise personal responsibility and now it’s time to pony up the price! Sorry man you place your bet you take your chances!!


32 posted on 10/07/2010 7:35:44 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Hodar

“You don’t walk into the insurance company after your home is flooded and waive around a $125 check, demanding retro-active Flood insurance coverage, do you?”

Sadly, many so called conservatives here probably support the “right” to do just that.

These WWJD thread are pretty illuminating. If religous people think Jesus would be down with something, it’s no great stretch to them to think “society” (which ends up being gvt) should be too.


33 posted on 10/07/2010 7:36:32 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: stuartcr

“They could at least have hosed it down, while they were standing around watching. How much could that have cost?”

Their entire income for next year.

Why pay then if you can get it free, after the fact?


34 posted on 10/07/2010 7:37:41 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Catholic Examiner

What’s the problem? A bunch of wood burned. Happens every day. It is not a public problem. It is a private problem. Let it be a lesson.

What if the guy had a nice family car, or truck with no insurance. Auto body guys and mechanics are supposed to fix it with their labor?

He didn’t want to pay for labor. Also, he wasn’t friends( obviously with the firemen ) So, it seems this guy has a problem with social contracts, money and otherwise.

He wanted to live outside the social contract. Fine.

No different then loser, welfare, non working parasites that want all the work of laborers, taken by force through government taxation and derived to them, and usually supported by woolly headed Marxist .


35 posted on 10/07/2010 7:39:09 AM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: Mr. Lucky
"Someone who embarks upon a gratuitous undertaking is liable for damages if he fails to complete his task in a staisfactory manner, all of the moralizing of internet heroes notwithstanding. "

True. I don't think there is a Good Samaritan Law for firefighters.

36 posted on 10/07/2010 7:39:12 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Venturer

“These people need to come up with a new plan for fire protection in their community.”

Socialism to the rescue!

They don’t need to come up with anything at all. They have a system.

This guy didn’t want to pay, so he lost his house.


37 posted on 10/07/2010 7:39:57 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Pessimist

It is NOT a VFD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2602513/posts?page=25#25


38 posted on 10/07/2010 7:40:09 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Leisler
"No different then loser, welfare, non working parasites that want all the work of laborers, taken by force through government taxation and derived to them, and usually supported by woolly headed Marxist ."

The parallels between this and Obamacare are astounding. Someone brought that up on one of the previous threads on this.

39 posted on 10/07/2010 7:41:40 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Catholic Examiner
This story is a metaphor for ObamaCare.

Steal from others because of your choice
not to be responsible for yourself.

Yah'shua said :

Mar 10:19 "You know the commandments, .... DO NOT STEAL,.... , Do not defraud, ........."
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

40 posted on 10/07/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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