On an highly emotional spiritual level there has been a great common-ground meeting place between Rome and Mecca in the town of Fatima in Portugal. To quote a Catholic news organization, "Our Lady of Fatima is really Fatima, daughter of the Prophet Mohammed." On October 23, 1995, Iranian television began running stories that the apparitions in Fatima, Portugal in 1917 were religious phenomena of Muslim origin....
....According to Iranian Television, the woman who appeared to the three shepherd children in 1917 was not the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus, but Fatima, the daughter of the prophet Mohammed, founder of Islam. Her message was reported to be "I am Fatima, daughter of the Prophet of Islam." This television report has helped launch the growing waves of Muslim pilgrims who have been visiting this Christian site in Portugal in recent years.
Catholics, on the other hand, say that the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to the three shepherd children. She told them to pray, especially encouraging the prayer of the Rosary. Lucía, the only surviving recipient of the vision, was entrusted with three "secrets," of which the third has never been made public. She recently assured that the third secret was never intended for general proclamation. Pope John Paul II has had a strong devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, especially since the failed assassination attempt of Ali Agca, which occurred precisely on May 13, 1991, the anniversary of the first vision at Fatima (May 13, 1917).
-- From the thread The Papacy and Islam
This brings us to our second point: namely, why the Blessed Mother, in the 20th century should have revealed herself in the significant little village of Fatima, so that to all future generations she would be known as "Our Lady of Fatima." Since nothing ever happens out of Heaven except with a finesse of all details, I believe that the Blessed Virgin chose to be known as "Our Lady of Fatima" as a pledge and a sign of hope to the Moslem people, and as an assurance that they, who show her so much respect, will one day accept her divine Son too.On the Third Secret, "Fourth Secret(s)", and other visions of Fatima:
Evidence to support these views is found in the historical fact that the Moslems occupied Portugal for centuries. At the time when they were finally driven out, the last Moslem chief had a beautiful daughter by the name of Fatima. A Catholic boy fell in love with her, and for him she not only stayed behind when the Moslems left, but even embraced the Faith. The young husband was so much in love with her that he changed the name of the town where he lived to Fatima. Thus, the very place where our Lady appeared in 1917 bears a historical connection to Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed.
-- Archbishop Fulton Sheen, in the book The World's First Love
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Thank you for posting.
The Battle of Lepanto is going to be repeated again only this time on the ground.
I am mindful that this thread was posted on the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto. Previously this day was marked in the Liturgical Calendar as the Feast of Our Lady of Victory - that appellation seems to have gone by the ways in the name of PC. My father was once a member of Our Lady of Victory Parish in Philadelphia, Pa., and I have specifically asked that Our Lady of Victory be invoked at my funeral Mass.
Rosary and “ecumenical”?
This could also be part of the great delusion. Just let God do it. If that is what God wants it will be full conversion in Jesus who became Man from Divinity. Which will be proclaimed by true believers( 1 John 4). Not wishful thinking.
Remember in the book of Revelation believers are martyred by beheadings. Only Muslim countries still do this awful practice. It fits for the end time prophecies. Beware! Heaven help us!
It is interesting that the "crescent" is also the symbol for Islam and that America's Shrine to Our Lady has an Islamic name.
While America doesn't have a shrine to the lady of Guadalupe, certain American religions may have a shrine...
And while this lady may be a religious bond that exists between the Catholic religion and the muzlim religion, Jesus Christ is the bond between Christians and muzlims...
Many muzlims thru out the world have and do come to Jesus Christ and become Christians, forsaking the muzlim religion, the Koran and any notion that the fatima story has any validity at all...Praise God...
Wow. I never realized there were so many rules on this thread.
I guess I should just read.