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Does Yoga Go Against Christianity?
CBN ^ | Saturday, October 09, 2010

Posted on 10/09/2010 5:03:58 AM PDT by GonzoII

Southern Baptist Seminary President Albert Mohler says yoga is not a Christian practice.

In an online essay, Dr. Mohler wrote that he's surprised at the number of Christians who embrace it and is asking Christians to avoid it.

He says the stretching and meditative discipline derived from Eastern religions is not a Christian pathway to God.

Mohler said he objects to "the idea that the body is a vehicle for reaching consciousness with the divine."

"That's just not Christianity," Mohler told The Associated Press.

CBN News spoke with psychologist and author Dr. Linda Mintle about yoga and whether its emphasis on spirituality goes against Christian beliefs. Click play for her comments, following an updated report with CBN News' Mark Martin.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbn.com ...


TOPICS: Eastern Religions; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: baptist; freformed; yoga
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1 posted on 10/09/2010 5:04:00 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

At Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago they have something called “Catholic Yoga”!!!!


2 posted on 10/09/2010 5:06:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

?!?


3 posted on 10/09/2010 5:07:33 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: GonzoII

Dr. Mohler may also make every effort to spend no more than 10 seconds on the “pot” lest he derive pleasure from his nether regions but that won’t save his MIND from the fires of Hell.


4 posted on 10/09/2010 5:08:46 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: sayuncledave

I KNOW!! WTH?????


5 posted on 10/09/2010 5:09:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: GonzoII

What kind of moonbat is Albert Mohler?
There’s no religious philosophy being taught, just stretching exercises, muscle control and meditation.


6 posted on 10/09/2010 5:09:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: GonzoII

The media gives crackpots like this guy a higher profile in order to paint mainstream Christianity with the same brush.


7 posted on 10/09/2010 5:12:07 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: BuffaloJack
That's what it is at my health club.

I don't take the classes because I'm not that limber, but I'm pretty sure its just stretching and strengthening.

8 posted on 10/09/2010 5:13:36 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: GonzoII
It is moronic Neanderthal droolers like this that make the left hate religion and cause them to turn from GOD... and the swagarts and bakers of the world... that and the fact that the left are inherently evil.

LLS

9 posted on 10/09/2010 5:15:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: GonzoII

Good! Now I can tell my wife I can’t go to Hot Yoga anymore or else I’ll go to hell....


10 posted on 10/09/2010 5:16:31 AM PDT by freebilly (No wonder the left has a boner for Obama. There's CIALIS in soCIALISt....)
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To: BuffaloJack

“There’s no religious philosophy being taught, just stretching exercises, muscle control and meditation.”

Not very familiar with the history of yoga are you.


11 posted on 10/09/2010 5:17:46 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GonzoII

It depends on who is leading the class. Some places have only physical exercise. Others are using elements of what is NOT Christian via relaxation/meditation techniques. Christians should indeed be wary.

Personally, as a Catholic, I completely avoid yoga. I can find all the exercise and stretching I need elsewhere.


12 posted on 10/09/2010 5:27:41 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: LibLieSlayer; All

Yoga has roots back to Stone Age Shamanism. Was used extensively by Buddha and has been incorporated into Buddhism as part of their prayer and meditation.

Yoga is more than stretching, a vegan diet, and hippies. Its focus is on meditation and spirituality without Christ.

Being ‘spiritual’ with a focus on something other than Christ is not a positive Christian behavior.

Ignorance is a terrible thing. It leads to rush to judgement and very inappropriate comparisons.


13 posted on 10/09/2010 5:29:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GonzoII
Does Yoga Go Against Christianity?

yes and Kung Fu will give you a plague of frogs....

who wastes time with such crap???

14 posted on 10/09/2010 5:31:17 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: ExpatCanuck

ExpatCanuck wrote: “The media gives crackpots like this guy a higher profile in order to paint mainstream Christianity with the same brush.”

..... My opinion as well. No doubt they ferret such foolish people out purposely.


15 posted on 10/09/2010 5:33:31 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: driftdiver

“Ignorance is a terrible thing. It leads to rush to judgement and very inappropriate comparisons.”

Have to agree with this statement.

I am a devout practicing Christian and yoga helps me get closer to God. I am in constant prayer to Jesus when practicing. It is a very spiritual, Christian experience.


16 posted on 10/09/2010 5:35:54 AM PDT by Amadeo
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To: Senator John Blutarski

It would be easier if all Christians just accepted the things of the world.


17 posted on 10/09/2010 5:36:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I’ve taken many Yoga classes and there was no meditation. It was strictly stretching and strengthening, the same as any other exercise training I’ve taken.


18 posted on 10/09/2010 5:38:28 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: Amadeo

Yoga is not Christian. You may be using Yoga like exercises but you are not doing yoga.

Try 10 yoga programs and tell me how many mention Christ during their push for spirituality.


19 posted on 10/09/2010 5:38:41 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Vaquero

Hey, wait a minute! Kung Fu does that?! Why didn’t someone tell me? I’ve just about appeased all the atheist lefties by not offending them with my religious beliefs - but now I’m sick and tired of eating frog legs.


20 posted on 10/09/2010 5:39:08 AM PDT by troublesome creek
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To: GonzoII

I do yoga to stay limber and while in the many stretches, along with the various poses, I often pray....mostly the Rosary.

Why not???

Does anyone really think the Good Lord cares if pray from while seated in a pew or in a Downward facing Dog pose???


21 posted on 10/09/2010 5:46:00 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: driftdiver
It would be easier if all Christians just accepted the things of the world.

Yep, a very wide, smooth road to oblivion.

22 posted on 10/09/2010 5:46:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

. . .wide is the road. Narrow is the gate. . .


23 posted on 10/09/2010 5:53:18 AM PDT by troublesome creek
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To: Ann Archy
At Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago they have something called “Catholic Yoga”!!!!

So you feel guilty for having impure thoughts about the flexible young woman next to you?

How "spiritual" are most gym yoga programs? Those that I have seen focus on the exercise and not any spiritual aspects, so the question "Does yoga go against Christianity?" makes as much sense as "Does running on the treadmill go against Christianity?"

24 posted on 10/09/2010 6:01:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: GonzoII

Maybe he should issue a fatwa and blow up some Buddha statues, too. If Yoga threatened national security, I may be interested, but this guy’s “good Christian” nose is way out of joint.


25 posted on 10/09/2010 6:04:12 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: LibLieSlayer

actually there is a difference between ancient traditional yoga and what is practiced by the more modern west,as well as the westernization of buddhism

I don’t have a problem with yoga but I can see how a devout christian might.

http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/beginnersguide/yogahistory.asp

Later, around 500” class=”related_products_container” B.C., the Bhagavad-Gita or Lord’s Song was created and this is currently the oldest known Yoga scripture. It is devoted entirely to Yoga and has confirmed that it has been an old practice for some time. However, it doesn’t point to a specific time wherein Yoga could have started. The central point to the Gita is that - to be alive means to be active and in order to avoid difficulties in our lives and in others, our actions have to benign and have to exceed our egos.

yes, yoga was a form of worshiping the gods.


26 posted on 10/09/2010 6:05:33 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: KarlInOhio

Most importantly, yoga meditation teaches the participant to be calm, and to block out the distractions of the outside world. Once a state of calmness has been achieved, the participant is free to think about God in a deeper way.


27 posted on 10/09/2010 6:10:50 AM PDT by reg45
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Some of the post are so over the top, back in the day when I was a very devout christian I would have worried about yoga, and other practices that have gone so mainstream now we don’t even give them a second thought,

I went on this spiritual journey into other religious beliefs, I wish I never had,

Somewhere during the late 1800’s and early 1900’s something went horribly wrong.


28 posted on 10/09/2010 6:12:06 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: Melinda in TN

Same here and I am about as unlimber and unbalanced as they come. It helped me a bit. My wife gets more out of it.


29 posted on 10/09/2010 6:15:23 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: reg45

Well, what I discovered was, you can do the same thing with prayer,duh

prayer and meditation are the same thing they all affect the same brain areas.

Each yoga stretch is symbolic of something and the average lay person doesn’t know what that something is, yoga and kundalini energy,

Even masters will tell you not to try to attain kundalini without their assistance, I know what can happen and it is terrifying.


30 posted on 10/09/2010 6:18:55 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: GonzoII

31 posted on 10/09/2010 6:18:59 AM PDT by seawolf101
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To: GonzoII

I heard that dancing is evil too.


32 posted on 10/09/2010 6:23:18 AM PDT by csvset
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“Without the practice of yoga, How could knowledge Set the atman (soul) free? asks the Yogatatva Upanishad. Yoga: union with the ultimate. Carl G. Jung the eminent Swiss psychologist, described yoga as ‘one of the greatest things the human mind has ever created.’ Yoga sutra consists of two words only: yogash chitta-critti-nirodah, which may be translated: “Yoga is the cessation of agitation of the consciousness.”

The word yoga is derived from the root yuj, which means to unite or to join together. The practice of yoga may lead to the union of the human with the divine - all within the self.”

Yoga is an integral part of the Hindu religion.

There is a saying: “There is no Yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without Yoga.” The country of origin of Yoga is undoubtedly India, where for many hundreds of years it has been a part of man’s activities directed towards higher spiritual achievements. The Yoga Philosophy is peculiar to the Hindus, and no trace of it is found in any other nation, ancient or modern. It was the fruit of the highest intellectual and spiritual development. The history of Yoga is long and ancient. The earliest Vedic texts, the Brahmanas, bear witness to the existence of ascetic practices (tapas) and the vedic Samhitas contain some references, to ascetics, namely the Munis or Kesins and the Vratyas.

“There is no Yoga without Hinduism and no Hinduism without Yoga.”
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Yoga_and_Hindu_Philosophy.htm

according to some Hindu literature, there are 330 million Hindu deities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hindu_deities


33 posted on 10/09/2010 6:28:16 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: Sophia777

Prayer is talking to God, meditation is listening for Him.


34 posted on 10/09/2010 6:28:44 AM PDT by reg45
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So yes, if one wants to attain pure unadulterated Christianity, that accepts there is no other way to god but through Jesus Christ, who am I to say this man is wrong?


35 posted on 10/09/2010 6:34:21 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: reg45

There are different forms of prayer, yes.

There is contemplative prayer, and yes god can be found in the silence.

But both practices affect the same ares of the brain,

scans of meditating monks and praying nuns show that the frontal lobe that area that directs the mind’s focus is especially active during prayer and mediation.


36 posted on 10/09/2010 6:40:29 AM PDT by Sophia777
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To: KarlInOhio
Exactly, "does running on the treadmill go against Christianity?" Or "does learning discrete mathematics go against Christianity?"

Yoga exercises are good for keeping hip flexors stretched, for stretching out lower back, for keeping tension out of the neck, for strengthening knees to enable running, etc. All the history of meditation, chanting, blah blah are not part of anything I've ever done with Yoga. It's just a great way to keep fit in my opinion.

37 posted on 10/09/2010 6:42:06 AM PDT by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: driftdiver

driftdiver wrote: “It would be easier if all Christians just accepted the things of the world.”

..... There are things I can accept and there are things I can forgive. But there are also things that I will not accept or embrace, such as sophistry, demagogery, prevarication and dissimulation.

A personal character flaw on my part, I suppose.


38 posted on 10/09/2010 6:48:30 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Sophia777

“Each yoga stretch is symbolic of something and the average lay person doesn’t know what that something is”

In Asian I’ve been to Buddhist temples which were 2000 years old. Several of them have small stone water fountains which were historically used by visitors to get a drink.

The fountain is set up so that as you bend down to get a drink you are also bowing to a Buddha. I would never have noticed it if someone hadn’t pointed it out to me.


39 posted on 10/09/2010 6:52:13 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

We all have flaws that we need to work on.


40 posted on 10/09/2010 6:53:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: gcraig

good post


41 posted on 10/09/2010 6:59:08 AM PDT by chasio649 (amused)
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To: BuffaloJack

>> What kind of moonbat is Albert Mohler? <<

He’s only the most prominent theologian of the Southern Baptist Church.


42 posted on 10/09/2010 6:59:15 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: GonzoII

If you take “yoga” as an exercise then no. It is when you mix in all the mystical stuff that it becomes bad.


43 posted on 10/09/2010 7:01:57 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: BuffaloJack

I think Mohler is concerned that while in a yoga pose it is harder for his adherents to reach the collection plate. :)


44 posted on 10/09/2010 7:04:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: muawiyah
"Dr. Mohler may also make every effort to spend no more than 10 seconds on the “pot” lest he derive pleasure from his nether regions but that won’t save his MIND from the fires of Hell."

Rolling...rolling I tell ya..on the floor laughing!!! Baaaahhaaa! All hail the muawiah, you are killing me. LOL.

45 posted on 10/09/2010 7:09:51 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: sigzero
"It is when you mix in all the mystical stuff that it becomes bad."

Right and some folks just ought to avoid it altogether.

46 posted on 10/09/2010 7:14:59 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: driftdiver

driftdiver wrote: “We all have flaws that we need to work on.”

..... True words, indeed.


47 posted on 10/09/2010 7:18:53 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: BuffaloJack
Actually it is a religious practice in design, every position is to honor a different god. The meditation is to find the god within, the mantras call to other gods...

I guess the question is not is it a religious practice, because it is. The question is can a saved man or woman use the positions as an exercise.

Paul tells us that all things are clean to a believer.. so i do not see it as a problem if the yoga positions are adapted for fitness..it is the meditation and the mantras that remain an issue

48 posted on 10/09/2010 7:24:48 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Amadeo
My friend stands on his head, crosses his legs, brings his hands together in the position of prayer and while focusing on a picture of Krishna as a child, meditates ~ and asks for luck and fortune.

A Christian could do very much what he does right up to the point of "asks for luck" ~ because THAT WOULD BE WRONG.

It's what's in your mind, not how you flex your calves (except for the Baptists).

49 posted on 10/09/2010 7:34:53 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Sophia777
There are a series of proverbs in the document you reference. They appear to have been successfully translated from Hebrew to Aramaic to Persian to Sanskrit to other Indian languages.

This dates the Bhagavad-Gita to the First or Second Century AD when Jewish missionaries were at work in India. There are, of course, OLDER MATERIALS of Indian origin in the same work, but its compilation must necessarily be later.

The Great Fish takes a big part in the oldest of Hindu thinking, as does Ma-Nu (Noah).

Hinduism does not exist totally unconnected to Western religious currents ~ (NOTE: Hindus, of course, say it's the other way around and that Western religions are not totally unconnected to Hinduism).

50 posted on 10/09/2010 7:49:36 AM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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