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Dallas Diocese's only Latin Mass church...celebrates opening of Irving sanctuary (Catholic Caucus)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 10/08/2010 | Sam Hodges

Posted on 10/12/2010 8:14:04 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Jack Schmidt converted to Catholicism about a decade ago and never learned Latin. But that's the language he prefers for Mass....

Andrew Davis does know Latin and struggles in English to describe how much the traditional Latin Mass means to him.

"The liturgy is so beautiful and inspiring," the Corinth college student said. "It's something that really raises my heart and mind to God."

For Schmidt, Davis and a few hundred other North Texas Catholics, this is a big day. Mater Dei Catholic Church, local home of the traditional Latin Mass, will be in its own sanctuary for the first time.

Bishop Kevin Farrell of the Diocese of Dallas will come to Irving this morning to bless a former Korean Methodist church building that had a $600,000 makeover to become Mater Dei's worship space....

The location would seem unlikely for the only Diocese of Dallas church where Latin liturgy is the norm....But Mater Dei has doubled attendance to 600 at two Sunday Masses since buying the property last December and beginning to meet in the fellowship hall....

In 1991, the Mater Dei (Latin for "mother of God") community formed in Dallas in connection with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter in North America, which is committed to the traditional Latin Mass. That group met in borrowed space, including for more than 17 years in the chapel of a local convent.

Last year, Farrell gave Mater Dei permission to buy the Irving property. Longua said he got the keys on Dec. 6. Church members had the fellowship hall ready for Mass in less than 24 hours....

In celebrating the Tridentine Mass, the priest faces the altar, not the congregation. Hymns are in Latin. Parishioners kneel to take Communion....

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; latinmass; texas; tlm
Pretty good article. Read the whole thing at the link above. Unfortunately, no pictures from the Dallas Morning News, but I found this picture from a blog posting about it:


1 posted on 10/12/2010 8:14:12 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/12/2010 8:15:45 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

That is lovely!


3 posted on 10/12/2010 8:16:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("Happiness is a choice"-Fr. Ben Ludtke. Pray for healing of his Brain Tumor, pls.)
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To: Pyro7480
I have little to no use for what happened in the church since they left the Latin Mass behind. I go but do not follow the current trends...

I will not touch the Eucharist and the worst thing is shaking hands with strangers who probably don't wash after taking care of their business. I refuse to greet strangers at that time and just sit in a meditative state. It has become a circus.

5 posted on 10/12/2010 8:24:46 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: dalebert; Religion Moderator
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6 posted on 10/12/2010 8:26:37 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Vaquero
I have little to no use for what happened in the church since they left the Latin Mass behind. I go but do not follow the current trends...

Well, then this thread is right down your alley!

7 posted on 10/12/2010 8:27:26 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

please excuse did not realize it was a private thread. I am not a practicing Catholic.


8 posted on 10/12/2010 8:32:02 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Vaquero
I have little to no use for what happened in the church since they left the Latin Mass behind. I go but do not follow the current trends...

I often think of how Our Lord must be feeling when he sees and experiences unthoughtful behavior.

9 posted on 10/12/2010 9:25:38 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Pyro7480

Beautiful! Tagine:


10 posted on 10/12/2010 9:43:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Beauty demands as much courage and decision as do Truth and Goodness." Hans Urs von Balthasar)
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To: Pyro7480

Last year when I expected to be passing through Dallas, I e-mailed the Mater Dei people for directions to the convent that was hosting their Mass. The response was disconcerting. I was asked more or less to state my reasons for wishing to attend, and even whether I was Catholic. I felt like I was being screened or submitting an application. I hope this wholly offputting and somewhat creepy attitude has been shelved.


11 posted on 10/12/2010 10:29:07 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Romulus

That’s unfortunate!


12 posted on 10/12/2010 11:21:48 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Romulus

I think their response was probably due to the fact that the Mass was at a convent. From things I had read here and there, evidently the nuns actually thought having the Latin Mass Community there was rather a disruption. Also, the fact that the convent is in west Oak Cliff, which is not the best part of town, was probably also a factor. I think now that the community has a real church near major highways, and not off the beaten path, it will be much better.


13 posted on 10/12/2010 2:41:56 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Pyro7480

What a confusing title. How do you open a sanctuary? Why not open the whole church? I can’t imagine the point in having an open sanctuary in a closed and empty church. Or perhaps the church has been open for a while, and people keep coming into the nave to sit down only to realize that the sanctuary is closed. That would be a strange way to run a church.


14 posted on 10/12/2010 6:56:24 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: Pyro7480

Wonderful news!

In celebrating the Tridentine Mass, the priest faces
the altar, not the congregation. Hymns are in Latin.
Parishioners kneel to take Communion....

So envious here....


15 posted on 10/13/2010 1:51:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Vaquero

It has become a circus.

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And the stupidest thing about the whole exercise is the timeing of the so-called sign of peace. Why around the time of the Consecration? If I am going to wish you peace, why not do so upon first beginning the Mass? It is so disruptive. The whole church bursts into an unholy uproar as if we’re in a bar.


16 posted on 10/13/2010 1:55:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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