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Mel Gibson May be an Alcoholic, a Sedevacantist and an Anti-Semite But He Has My Sympathy
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 10/25/10 | Stuart Reid

Posted on 10/26/2010 7:21:57 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: allmendream
A little late for that!

So you admit causing division with his father was part of the agenda. It was obvious enough.

All he had to say is “My father said/believes some things that I don't necessarily believe.”

Mel should not have to publicly split with his father to prove himself to Hollywood or anybody else.

101 posted on 10/27/2010 4:04:42 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
To prove himself not a loony Holocaust denier to the public it would have been nice if he distanced himself from his father's view, instead of absolutely endorsing it as the truth and something he believes.

That is hardly a public split. I can say now with absolutely no embarrassment or hesitation that my father says and believes many things that I do not necessarily believe. I have not just publicly split with my father, I have declined to endorse his views as my own.

102 posted on 10/27/2010 4:37:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

The relationship between parents and children in traditionalist culture is much different from that relationship among most modern-minded Americans. Traditional Catholicism is a traditionalist culture. It is Mel’s business if he wishes to avoid a public split with his father.


103 posted on 10/27/2010 4:49:38 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor
Well apparently it is also his business if he wants to rant about Jews starting wars, call a female law enforcement officer “sugar t*ts” (which I find hilarious), drunk drive while speeding with an open container, divorce his wife, slap around his new wife, scream to her about N*ggers raping her and Wetbacks and whatnot.

But his equivocation about “some” Jews dying you would no doubt find sickening if it came from someone on the left as well as their endorsement as something they believe and is truth their fathers denial of the Holocaust.

To me it doesn't matter that it is Mel. There is a bridge to far where I no longer think well of you.

Shame to, because he is such a likeable guy and I loved him as William Wallace and Mad Max as well as in The Patriot, and I enjoyed both “The Passion of the Christ” and “Apacalypto” and no doubt I will watch his next movie.

But if people don't want to work with him, that is now his cross to bear.

That those people JUST worked on a movie with an unrepentant (did you see “Tyson”?) and convicted RAPIST, just makes it that much more amusing.

Maybe next time they will work with Roman Polanski the convicted child molester AND Mike Tyson the convicted rapist! But not Mel Gibson. He so crazy!

;)

104 posted on 10/27/2010 5:18:08 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: bvw

Something between apathy and introspection.

Christians are not supposed to overly concern themselves with things of this world. Those who love Christ well are unconcerned with property, those who love property too well maybe unconcerned with Christianity, either way is apathetic towards the statement “Christians are fond of property”. Someone who wants to be Christian but is fond of property may find this a point for introspection. The individual must make a choice between Christian identity and fondness for property.

So far as I know, there is no dichotomy between Jewishness and fondness of property. Because both Jewishness and love of property can be unified aspects the same individual, the poem stings with insult.


105 posted on 10/27/2010 5:49:16 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Before you waste anymore time on this Romney defending/anti-conservative troll, you may want to just look at his posting history.


106 posted on 10/27/2010 5:50:05 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Flying Circus

The sting of insult inverted. Everything you know is wrong — that is a good starting point to allow for the beginning of wisdom, which is Fear of G-d.

G-d made this world and all in it for a reason! To ignore the proper use of all things is a deep callousness to the G-dly.

Money is mentioned early on in the Bible. There is a reason for that. Of all things it is a coin — a half shekel — that G-d demands that his Chosen Ones be counted. The Israelites, fleeing the strictures and hedonism of Egypt are enumerated by means of a half-shekel — that is money. Each tribe, big or small, wealthy or not so, is required to come up with the same amount of offering to outfit the Camp’s Holy Tent of Meeting.

Money is really quite a powerful thing, to be so honored in use.

Those who deny that ‘property’ and ‘money’ are important to safeguard and properly use are in denial of a fundamental G-dly requirement of our lives in this World.


107 posted on 10/27/2010 6:10:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw; Flying Circus
Money is really quite a powerful thing

Are there moral or mental health risks associated with money?

108 posted on 10/27/2010 6:59:17 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: ansel12

Romney?

The guy should be political dead meat with the albatross of Massachecets Medical care around his neck.

If you mean the argument that if you say you are not voting for him because he is a Mormon you sound like a bigot, well that isn’t exactly defending Romney - just saying that going after someone on his religion is stupid, unnecessary and counterproductive.

And my posting history is quite conservative, Palin supporting, small Government of limited and enumerated powers that respects the natural rights of man given to us by our Creator. I am a veteran of the USAF and support and defend the Constitution.

It is Mel Gibson who said of our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq about his movie “Apacalypto”, that “The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys”.

Loon!


109 posted on 10/27/2010 7:12:20 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Off course! It’s seen as the biggest stressor in marriages. But it is not the “root of evil”. Since money is the medium of so many social exchanges, problems in dealing with those are often cloaked as money problems.

For example, expensive indulgences and out of control spending are weaknesses of impulse control and inner strength, and not really money problems, but they most often evidence as “a “money problem”. Delusions, selfishness, the various degrees of lying to one’s spouse can all appear as “money” difficulties.


110 posted on 10/27/2010 8:07:33 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
But it is not the “root of evil”.

Money is not. It is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil. Wholesome dedication to one's work often results in a well-earned monetary reward, but the LOVE of money is a blindness that results in destruction. It makes no sense to store up ill-gotten riches in this world that will be used as a judgement for punishment in the next (and often in this world as well). Unfortunately, this LOVE is the greatest of temptations and ruins society by fueling chronic debt, crime, intrigue, and war. Money is very powerful indeed and, in any sizable quantity, must be handled with great dispassion and care.

111 posted on 10/28/2010 1:06:39 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: marshmallow

Mel Gibson bump


112 posted on 10/28/2010 8:18:23 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: marshmallow

Mel Gibson has never left His Church, the CouncLIAR pretenders left him beginning in 1958. The halls of the Vatican have been clouded by evil ever since. May God continue to bless the Traditional Roman Catholic faithful.


114 posted on 10/29/2010 10:46:06 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (Qui tacet consentit)
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