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In Christ Alone (Happy reformation day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnTlIM5QgE ^ | Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7

In Christ Alone lyrics

Songwriters: Getty, Julian Keith; Townend, Stuart Richard;

In Christ alone my hope is found He is my light, my strength, my song This Cornerstone, this solid ground Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

What heights of love, what depths of peace When fears are stilled, when strivings cease My Comforter, my All in All Here in the love of Christ I stand

In Christ alone, who took on flesh Fullness of God in helpless Babe This gift of love and righteousness Scorned by the ones He came to save

?Til on that cross as Jesus died The wrath of God was satisfied For every sin on Him was laid Here in the death of Christ I live, I live

There in the ground His body lay Light of the world by darkness slain Then bursting forth in glorious Day Up from the grave He rose again

And as He stands in victory Sin?s curse has lost its grip on me For I am His and He is mine Bought with the precious blood of Christ


TOPICS: Prayer; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: reformation; savedbygrace
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To: the_conscience; daniel1212

Thx tons for your kind caring and prayers.

Doing better. Less pain.


6,751 posted on 01/06/2011 4:22:30 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: jackv

It sure looked exceedingly dreadful fresh from the saw.

Much better now.

Thanks for your caring and prayers.


6,752 posted on 01/06/2011 4:23:18 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Oh dear Quix...I didn’t know you had been injured by your saw! (Blame the saw Quix..that always seems to make one feel better), but I suspect your experiencing some real tenderness by now...hopefully no infection. Maybe a Dr. Visit just to check?

Meanwhile may you be well soon....and praising God for how we are made!

CW


6,753 posted on 01/06/2011 5:14:11 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom

Thanks for the reply and which served as a clarification, as my sentence was supposed to say “such can only BE those done withOUT a motive to merit eternal life, or escape judgment.” But you understood the thought correctly, as the thought in context required.


6,754 posted on 01/06/2011 5:58:34 PM PST by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: presently no screen name
Doesn't say that. It says that he was sad. He obviously believed in Jesus - the belief itself was not enough; he needed to do. His salvation was in jeopardy not because of Christ, not because of unbelief, but because his deeds put that salvation into doubt.

What was his stumbling block? Money. Sad because he would have to give it up - he wanted things his way. It's not that he had to give it up, Jesus was showing him what he loved more - money.

Read the words of Jesus, instead of the words that you may think or want Him to say.

His belief was not TOTALLY on Jesus. Walking with Jesus is a FAITH walk. He wanted the security of his money. It had nothing to do w/his deeds, it's had everything to do with his hardened heart. Anything put before Jesus - that's the area where one has a hardened heart.

A faith walk? More peculiar gibberish from the children of the Reformation? Read your own paragraph here. It is about his deeds, or rather, lack of them, which has imperilled his immortal soul. Belief in Jesus is required, but not enough on its own.

6,755 posted on 01/06/2011 7:04:28 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Quix

Grateful that you are okay. Any pictures of the injury?


6,756 posted on 01/06/2011 7:06:29 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: caww

THX THX.

No health insurance. Could go to VA clinic if have to.

There are RN’s at church. Will do if any sign of infection.

Currently, PRAISE GOD, NONE.

I just keep bumping when I try and do to much and even when not trying to do to much. LOL.

Then, getting out of bed from a nap, I sat on my finger. That didn’t feel good at all.

LOL.

Got some Manuka honey. Good stuff.


6,757 posted on 01/06/2011 7:34:54 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: MarkBsnr

THX.

No thanks. I’m not LBJ.

LOL.

Sure looks a lot better than right after the incident. That was pretty horrible and profuse bleeding from the sliced nail.


6,758 posted on 01/06/2011 7:36:41 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: count-your-change
“conceived” has not the same meaning as “cleansed”

Sorry for the shorthand. Of course it is not the same. Both Mary and you and I were cleansed once. Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean. You and I got cleansed later on in life through baptism. That is the difference in the moment of the cleaning I was speaking of.

6,759 posted on 01/06/2011 7:38:19 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Quix
Story....

Had this guy many years ago that was a frequent visitor to the E.R.

Seems he was a wood worker....and had this "habit" of zipping off ends of fingers. Last time I saw him...( No pun intended,,,) he had whacked another bit of finger off..and acted like it was nothing. Smiled at me...and said..."I did it again"....lol

Moral of the story....

Don't let that become you...FRiend.

6,760 posted on 01/06/2011 7:42:19 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: boatbums; metmom; RnMomof7; Gamecock; caww
We are reminded, exhorted, encouraged, etc., to good works because we are still here. Simple as that! As long as we are in this human flesh, we still have the old nature within as well as the new

Yes.

It is a byproduct of the new nature and if a new convert says he has faith but his life shows no change towards a godly life or even a desire TO change, then we may conclude that their faith is not genuine

Right. He has some kind of faith, but he does not "excel in good works" (Titus 3:8). His faith is "dead" (James 2)

We "work out our salvation" not to get it but because we have it

To "work something out" means that you get it through work. For example, "I worked out a vacation" means that I put in some work and now can go on vacation. If I already had a vacation, I will say "I took a vacation". Further, if we already had a salvation, what is to fear and tremble about? So you are putting words in St. Paul's mouth.

So, yes, we are a new creation in Christ that God leads and directs and disciplines through his Word. I am a far different person spiritually now than when I first was saved

Your were not "saved". you are on your way, sounds like, to be saved. Note, however, that there is some work you are doing: at the very least, don't you try to not sin or if you sin, remedy that? You say you are a different person, -- doesn't it mean that your works are a better imitation of Christ? So it is not jsut faith. You have faith and then you do certain works that God has prepared for you.

That is what this new nature causes to happen within us

It is not some physiological result of your faith, is it? I am not trying to be sarcastic: I really don't think that your will has nothing to do with your works. Or, conversely, if your works do not reflect a proximity to Christ then your internal conviction of it is false.

no amount of works we can possibly do can bring us salvation

The salvation is already there. Look at the Crucifix. That is your salvation. My works do not bring me salvation; they make me go to where the salvation is.

6,761 posted on 01/06/2011 7:55:50 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50
shall I send Kosta the clip of a real Metropolitan? :)

Send it, but gently...

6,762 posted on 01/06/2011 7:57:22 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Osage Orange

INDEED.

Last incident was 31 years ago . . . almost sawed thumb off with a hand held circular saw at end of a long day, exhausted at a new place. Etc. Same thumb. LOL.

I’m usually exceedingly careful. Was a big silly rabbit this time. And a bit tired and rushing. Must take super extra caution or stop work then.

Sigh.

THx for your exhortation.

I can’t imagine doing it frequently. It hurts far too much.

Fingers are QUITE sensitive, as you know. Even slivers in them are no fun!

Now to get a plastic glove on and take a shower. Wheee.


6,763 posted on 01/06/2011 7:59:00 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom; kosta50; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww
they are violating the directives given by God and reinforced by the Council of Jerusalem

Or, after Jerusalem there was another council. We had 7 of them in the Unified Church, and dozens more in the Western Church. We can govern ourselves just fine.

6,764 posted on 01/06/2011 7:59:28 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; boatbums; The Theophilus; metmom; RnMomof7; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; HossB86
That's probably one of the few times a RC has acknowledged Protestants are united

To unite in truth is difficult. To unite in error is no big deal. Does an F grade unite the students who got it?

6,765 posted on 01/06/2011 8:02:25 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: presently no screen name; kosta50
Rituals? That's Catholic lingo

Actually, it is not. While we do a lot of what appears to outsiders as rituals, they are not that, and we don't call them that.

6,766 posted on 01/06/2011 8:04:56 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: count-your-change
What’s the difference between “conceived” and “cleansed”?

If you say timing...then timing of what?

I answered that today, maybe not to you. The difference is the time of cleansing. It could be at conception. If that is still unclear, there is another post of mine made a half hour ago on that.

6,767 posted on 01/06/2011 8:07:39 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Actually, it is not. While we do a lot of what appears to outsiders as rituals, they are not that, and we don't call them that.

Besides the fact I was not always an outsider, what the RCC calls them makes no difference. A duck is a duck.
6,768 posted on 01/06/2011 8:09:54 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Quix

Take good care.....FRiend


6,769 posted on 01/06/2011 8:15:41 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: OLD REGGIE; boatbums; The Theophilus; metmom; Dr. Eckleburg
You would have no organized Church and no Papacy prior to Constantine

St. Peter was succeeded by one Linus of whom we know nothing. Depending on historian, either the next or as late as fourth pope was Clement I and he left quite a legacy, way before emperor Constantine.

Pope St. Clement I

6,770 posted on 01/06/2011 8:16:27 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

“Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.”

Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?

And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christ’s sacrifice as an adult?

This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or “cleansed as she was conceived”?


6,771 posted on 01/06/2011 8:30:06 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: boatbums; editor-surveyor; metmom; RnMomof7
the young man was not saved, because he lacked faith in Jesus Christ as Savior.

No, that is not why he was not saved. Jesus explained why:

Yet one thing is wanting to thee: sell all whatever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me (Luke 18:22)

Why don't you read what is written? He was wanting "one more thing". That one more thing was not faith, as you say, it was giving away his possessions. Further, there is no evidence that he lacked faith: he asked Jesus, "Good master, what shall I do to possess everlasting life?" (Luke 18:18). One does not ask a question unless he has faith in the person giving the answer.

that Jesus didn't say to him that if he gave everything to the poor and followed him, he would be saved, but that "his reward would be great in heaven".

That is spin way off the page. "Heaven" is synonymous with "evelasting life". The question was about "everlasting life". Do you think that "saved" has a different meaning as "have everlasting life in heaven?"

we should not allow anything in our lives - family, love, money, fame - to keep us from following him.

That is of course true, but the story tells us that a specific work of charity was required of the young man. The unwillingness to do that work of charity is what prevented him from gaining eternal life. It is more that some abstract "not allowing to keeps us from Christ" it was actively doing certain work.

Read what is written.

6,772 posted on 01/06/2011 8:30:40 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: MarkBsnr
Read the words of Jesus, instead of the words that you may think or want Him to say.

Your problem is that you don't know His Word. You cite a Scripture and add what you think and it shows you don't know his whole Word and what HIS KINGDOM is all about.

A faith walk? More peculiar gibberish from the children of the Reformation?

More proof that you are clueless about HIS KINGDOM. FAITH!! YES FAITH!! "Without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God". The RCC is worst that I thought - walking by faith and not by sight is called gibberish.

"We Walk By Faith, Not By Sight" 2 Corinthians 5:7

Read your own paragraph here. It is about his deeds, or rather, lack of them, which has imperilled his immortal soul. Belief in Jesus is required, but not enough on its own.

You lack so much knowledge so you can't understand what I wrote. It's NOT about his deeds - it's about his heart.

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
6,773 posted on 01/06/2011 8:31:43 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

6,774 posted on 01/06/2011 8:33:42 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: annalex
Send it, but gently...

:)

6,775 posted on 01/06/2011 8:34:32 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: annalex; metmom
Or, after Jerusalem there was another council. We had 7 of them in the Unified Church, and dozens more in the Western Church. We can govern ourselves just fine

I have to hand it to you Alex. Sooner or later you answer all posts. That's impressive. :)

6,776 posted on 01/06/2011 8:37:24 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: Osage Orange; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

THX.

Can you answer this?

I plan to leave the bandages alone tonight.

Have been out and about all day and now had shower with plastic glove. Bandages are still dry. Some added blood seepage but given all the bonking etc. quite minimal.

I think it would be better to avoid disturbing them another 24 hours or even longer . . . by changing them.

Your or anyone else’s more knowledgeable counsel?


6,777 posted on 01/06/2011 8:59:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: count-your-change; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

“Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.”

Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?

And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christ’s sacrifice as an adult?

This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or “cleansed as she was conceived”?


NO. NO. NO.

Ya gotta remember . . .

The Magic White Hankys are responsible.

Of course in that case, it would have been the

GRAND DAME GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT . . . . GRAND MOTHER MOTHER SUPERIOR ORIGINAL MAGIC WHITE HANKY


6,778 posted on 01/06/2011 9:02:26 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Got some Manuka honey. Good stuff.

Good to hear. It should heal in no time .
6,779 posted on 01/06/2011 9:08:19 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Plan to put some on next time I change dressing.

What’s your perspective on only changing the dressing every 2-3 days?


6,780 posted on 01/06/2011 9:13:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: MarkBsnr
Read your own paragraph here. It is about his deeds, or rather, lack of them, ...

That's NOT what I said, are you reading minds?
6,781 posted on 01/06/2011 9:13:58 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Quix

I think I would change it ‘now’ more often to add more honey to avoid any infection. Once it starts to heal - I think longer intervals of changing the bandage would be OK.


6,782 posted on 01/06/2011 9:22:40 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Quix

Forgot to add - I would change it 2x a day for a couple of days.


6,783 posted on 01/06/2011 9:24:39 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

THX THX.

It has liberal doses of NEOSPORN . . .

and there’s no evidence of infection.

???


6,784 posted on 01/06/2011 9:25:43 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: CynicalBear

So sorry for your loss.


6,785 posted on 01/06/2011 9:26:16 PM PST by Lera
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To: Quix

Then once a day! Right now - for the first couple of days - I’d be proactive. When did you change it last?


6,786 posted on 01/06/2011 9:27:32 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: metmom; daniel1212
Jesus came to set us free, not to enslave us to the bondage of works again.

I totally agree. I was thinking about how much different I am now than before. There has been much growth and maturity in my faith and my walk with the Lord. Doesn't it seem like now we do the things that bring glory to God and honor him without usually even thinking about it? Like the people Jesus spoke about who would say to him "When did we see you hungry and fed you...?" they were living their faith because it was a natural extension of the spirit-nature and, when we live in obedience to the Lord, we naturally do good works out of a new heart. Those without this new birth will constantly struggle with sin and they seem to be the ones who NEED the "hair shirts", self-flaggelation and such to try and fight the urges of the old nature. I'm not saying we never mess up, just that those times get fewer and we do good because we have the desire to.

6,787 posted on 01/06/2011 9:43:55 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Quix

Praise the Lord for your healing progress. If you feel throbbing, try raising your arm at the elbow, it helps stop bleeding and lessen pain. Praying for a complete recovery! And be careful! We like having you here. :o)


6,788 posted on 01/06/2011 9:47:31 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: annalex

John the Baptist didn’t do that because of penance he lived that way because he was a Nazirite like Samson. He was actually a Nazirite from birth.

Luk 1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Nazrite = “holy to the Lord all the days he is seperated”
This has nothing to do with the Catholic concept of penance.

Numbers 6:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:
:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
:4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.
:5 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.
:6 All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.
:7 He shall not make himself unclean for his father, or for his mother, for his brother, or for his sister, when they die: because the consecration of his God is upon his head.
:8 All the days of his separation he is holy unto the LORD.
:9 And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it.
:10 And on the eighth day he shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons, to the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
:11 And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, and make an atonement for him, for that he sinned by the dead, and shall hallow his head that same day.
:12 And he shall consecrate unto the LORD the days of his separation, and shall bring a lamb of the first year for a trespass offering: but the days that were before shall be lost, because his separation was defiled.
:13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
:14 And he shall offer his offering unto the LORD, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for peace offerings,
:15 And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.
:16 And the priest shall bring them before the LORD, and shall offer his sin offering, and his burnt offering:
:17 And he shall offer the ram for a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD, with the basket of unleavened bread: the priest shall offer also his meat offering, and his drink offering.
:18 And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.
:19 And the priest shall take the sodden shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them upon the hands of the Nazarite, after the hair of his separation is shaven:
:20 And the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: this is holy for the priest, with the wave breast and heave shoulder: and after that the Nazarite may drink wine.
:21 This is the law of the Nazarite who hath vowed, and of his offering unto the LORD for his separation, beside that that his hand shall get: according to the vow which he vowed, so he must do after the law of his separation.
:22 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
:23 Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,
:24 The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
:25 The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
:26 The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
:27 And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.


6,789 posted on 01/06/2011 9:50:27 PM PST by Lera
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To: D-fendr
I wonder why some people are so perfectly content to just swallow whatever they are told especially when it concerns their eternal destiny. I can read God's Word and he not only made sure his truths were written down in words and concepts people could understand but he also gave us his Spirit as a teacher in our hearts. God expects us to ask, to reason with the brain he gave us, to think and to learn. he gives us pastors and teachers to lead us, but he never intended for us to relinquish our minds to see for ourselves that what we are being told is proven from his Holy Scriptures. Why else do you think he gave them to us?
6,790 posted on 01/06/2011 9:54:18 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Like the people Jesus spoke about who would say to him "When did we see you hungry and fed you...?" they were living their faith because it was a natural extension of the spirit-nature and, when we live in obedience to the Lord, we naturally do good works out of a new heart.

That's what some of the works advocates miss.

The works that Jesus was talking about were apparently done without the person really being aware of it, in contrast to what many of the salvation by works advocates advocate, that we have to try and do all these good works that precious few people could accomplish, that would have to be conscious.

For someone who is truly saved, the works are the fruit that flows naturally from the life within them.

The kind of works that Jesus referred to cannot be done by someone who is not saved. He doesn't have the capacity to do those kinds of works. And if he's already saved, then he doesn't need the works to earn the salvation he already possesses.

6,791 posted on 01/06/2011 9:56:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Joya

I have my old, falling apart, wide-margin KJV that I used all throughout Bible College. I have so much written in it, cross-refs, notes, poems, prayers, etc. that I would never even consider getting rid of it. I have other versions, but I still use it quite a bit as most of my memory verses are from the King James Bible. When I use the online searches I mostly look up phrases from memory when looking for the chapter/verse in KJV but will often read the verses from other versions for better understanding. I really like also having an online concordance - what a 21st. century treat!


6,792 posted on 01/06/2011 10:01:53 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; Quix

With a serious hand injury, keeping the hand elevated keeps the blood from pooling in the hand and clotting because the circulation is poor. The elevation causes the fluid in the hand to drain out on its own under gravity instead of the heart having to pump it through.

I had carpal tunnel surgery last year and I had to keep my hand elevated for a full two days to help with healing.

I know a man who dropped something on his foot and had a crush kind of injury and he had to keep his foot elevated to allow the blood and fluid to drain out so that he wouldn’t loose his foot. If the blood had clotted in his foot, it would have stopped the circulation and the foot would have died.

Keeping the swelling down is critical in surgeries and injuries, especially where there is the potential for a lot of clotting.

Praying for you, Quix.


6,793 posted on 01/06/2011 10:03:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CynicalBear

I am sorry to hear about your Dad, CB. Prayers for comfort, strength and grace to endure for you and your family and a safe trip there and back.


6,794 posted on 01/06/2011 10:05:00 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Quix

I cast the foolscap of my understanding upon the blaze of your wisdom to be reduced to the ash of mine humility.


6,795 posted on 01/06/2011 10:08:09 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: annalex; metmom
The Greek for either is "metanoia". "Do penance" better matches the works of John the Baptist who wore a hairshirt, lived a hermit, and ate meager foods, -- typical works of Catholic penance.

So THAT'S what all those homeless guys are? They're doing penance? ;o)

Let's not forget that John the Baptist may also have taken the Nazarite vow. The angel in Luke 1:13-15 that announces the birth of John the Baptist foretells that "he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb".

6,796 posted on 01/06/2011 10:18:44 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Thanks for your reply.

Why else do you think he gave them to us?

I don't think he gave you your brain to create your own Christian Church - along with dozens of others doing the same thing creating other churches.

Christ established His Church, the pillar and foundation of truth, with Him as the head, guided by the Holy Spirit, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

You don't have to create Christ's Church all over again, starting with one piece of the Church, the only piece which you use to derive meanings and beliefs far afield from His Church. and arriving at a theology contrary to those given to the Apostles by Christ and passed down through the Church by their successors.

This is rebelling against Christ.

To use your brain to attempt this is not using your brain well or wisely - as God intended.

6,797 posted on 01/06/2011 10:26:43 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: annalex
It is typical Protestant sleaze, to cite two verses out of the passage and cut the quote exactly where it no longer "sounds Protestant", at verse 10. That's your entire method in nutshell.

Actually, it was typical Catholic priest "sleaze" that couldn't stomach the truth of what the Gospel really is.

6,798 posted on 01/06/2011 10:27:05 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: annalex
By their fruit I know them. Catholic Pastors don't scatter the flock.

No? Catholic "pastors" have done much worse things to the flock!

6,799 posted on 01/06/2011 10:30:24 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: presently no screen name; MarkBsnr

And let’s not forget that the rich, young ruler was convinced he had kept the law perfectly from his youth. We know and Jesus SURE knew that he was deceiving himself for “All have sinned”. Until we come to the understanding of our sinfulness and our need of the Savior, we can never be saved regardless of how good we think we are or can be.


6,800 posted on 01/06/2011 10:37:54 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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