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Posted on 10/31/2010 11:59:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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Thx tons for your kind caring and prayers.
Doing better. Less pain.
It sure looked exceedingly dreadful fresh from the saw.
Much better now.
Thanks for your caring and prayers.
Oh dear Quix...I didn’t know you had been injured by your saw! (Blame the saw Quix..that always seems to make one feel better), but I suspect your experiencing some real tenderness by now...hopefully no infection. Maybe a Dr. Visit just to check?
Meanwhile may you be well soon....and praising God for how we are made!
Thanks for the reply and which served as a clarification, as my sentence was supposed to say “such can only BE those done withOUT a motive to merit eternal life, or escape judgment.” But you understood the thought correctly, as the thought in context required.
What was his stumbling block? Money. Sad because he would have to give it up - he wanted things his way. It's not that he had to give it up, Jesus was showing him what he loved more - money.
Read the words of Jesus, instead of the words that you may think or want Him to say.
His belief was not TOTALLY on Jesus. Walking with Jesus is a FAITH walk. He wanted the security of his money. It had nothing to do w/his deeds, it's had everything to do with his hardened heart. Anything put before Jesus - that's the area where one has a hardened heart.
A faith walk? More peculiar gibberish from the children of the Reformation? Read your own paragraph here. It is about his deeds, or rather, lack of them, which has imperilled his immortal soul. Belief in Jesus is required, but not enough on its own.
Grateful that you are okay. Any pictures of the injury?
No health insurance. Could go to VA clinic if have to.
There are RN’s at church. Will do if any sign of infection.
Currently, PRAISE GOD, NONE.
I just keep bumping when I try and do to much and even when not trying to do to much. LOL.
Then, getting out of bed from a nap, I sat on my finger. That didn’t feel good at all.
Got some Manuka honey. Good stuff.
No thanks. I’m not LBJ.
Sure looks a lot better than right after the incident. That was pretty horrible and profuse bleeding from the sliced nail.
Sorry for the shorthand. Of course it is not the same. Both Mary and you and I were cleansed once. Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean. You and I got cleansed later on in life through baptism. That is the difference in the moment of the cleaning I was speaking of.
Had this guy many years ago that was a frequent visitor to the E.R.
Seems he was a wood worker....and had this "habit" of zipping off ends of fingers. Last time I saw him...( No pun intended,,,) he had whacked another bit of finger off..and acted like it was nothing. Smiled at me...and said..."I did it again"....lol
Moral of the story....
Don't let that become you...FRiend.
It is a byproduct of the new nature and if a new convert says he has faith but his life shows no change towards a godly life or even a desire TO change, then we may conclude that their faith is not genuine
Right. He has some kind of faith, but he does not "excel in good works" (Titus 3:8). His faith is "dead" (James 2)
We "work out our salvation" not to get it but because we have it
To "work something out" means that you get it through work. For example, "I worked out a vacation" means that I put in some work and now can go on vacation. If I already had a vacation, I will say "I took a vacation". Further, if we already had a salvation, what is to fear and tremble about? So you are putting words in St. Paul's mouth.
So, yes, we are a new creation in Christ that God leads and directs and disciplines through his Word. I am a far different person spiritually now than when I first was saved
Your were not "saved". you are on your way, sounds like, to be saved. Note, however, that there is some work you are doing: at the very least, don't you try to not sin or if you sin, remedy that? You say you are a different person, -- doesn't it mean that your works are a better imitation of Christ? So it is not jsut faith. You have faith and then you do certain works that God has prepared for you.
That is what this new nature causes to happen within us
It is not some physiological result of your faith, is it? I am not trying to be sarcastic: I really don't think that your will has nothing to do with your works. Or, conversely, if your works do not reflect a proximity to Christ then your internal conviction of it is false.
no amount of works we can possibly do can bring us salvation
The salvation is already there. Look at the Crucifix. That is your salvation. My works do not bring me salvation; they make me go to where the salvation is.
Send it, but gently...
Last incident was 31 years ago . . . almost sawed thumb off with a hand held circular saw at end of a long day, exhausted at a new place. Etc. Same thumb. LOL.
I’m usually exceedingly careful. Was a big silly rabbit this time. And a bit tired and rushing. Must take super extra caution or stop work then.
THx for your exhortation.
I can’t imagine doing it frequently. It hurts far too much.
Fingers are QUITE sensitive, as you know. Even slivers in them are no fun!
Now to get a plastic glove on and take a shower. Wheee.
Or, after Jerusalem there was another council. We had 7 of them in the Unified Church, and dozens more in the Western Church. We can govern ourselves just fine.
To unite in truth is difficult. To unite in error is no big deal. Does an F grade unite the students who got it?
Actually, it is not. While we do a lot of what appears to outsiders as rituals, they are not that, and we don't call them that.
I answered that today, maybe not to you. The difference is the time of cleansing. It could be at conception. If that is still unclear, there is another post of mine made a half hour ago on that.
Take good care.....FRiend
St. Peter was succeeded by one Linus of whom we know nothing. Depending on historian, either the next or as late as fourth pope was Clement I and he left quite a legacy, way before emperor Constantine.
“Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.”
Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?
And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christ’s sacrifice as an adult?
This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or “cleansed as she was conceived”?
No, that is not why he was not saved. Jesus explained why:
Yet one thing is wanting to thee: sell all whatever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me (Luke 18:22)
Why don't you read what is written? He was wanting "one more thing". That one more thing was not faith, as you say, it was giving away his possessions. Further, there is no evidence that he lacked faith: he asked Jesus, "Good master, what shall I do to possess everlasting life?" (Luke 18:18). One does not ask a question unless he has faith in the person giving the answer.
that Jesus didn't say to him that if he gave everything to the poor and followed him, he would be saved, but that "his reward would be great in heaven".
That is spin way off the page. "Heaven" is synonymous with "evelasting life". The question was about "everlasting life". Do you think that "saved" has a different meaning as "have everlasting life in heaven?"
we should not allow anything in our lives - family, love, money, fame - to keep us from following him.
That is of course true, but the story tells us that a specific work of charity was required of the young man. The unwillingness to do that work of charity is what prevented him from gaining eternal life. It is more that some abstract "not allowing to keeps us from Christ" it was actively doing certain work.
Read what is written.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
I have to hand it to you Alex. Sooner or later you answer all posts. That's impressive. :)
Can you answer this?
I plan to leave the bandages alone tonight.
Have been out and about all day and now had shower with plastic glove. Bandages are still dry. Some added blood seepage but given all the bonking etc. quite minimal.
I think it would be better to avoid disturbing them another 24 hours or even longer . . . by changing them.
Your or anyone else’s more knowledgeable counsel?
Mary was cleansed as she was conceived. She was simply made clean.
Mary cleansed? By what means? Animal sacrifice, Blood of Christ? Baptism? If by none of these then by what means and who performed this cleansing?
And if so cleansed would Mary need to offer sacrifices for sins later? or be baptized? Or put faith in Christs sacrifice as an adult?
This sounds like too important a concept for the Scriptures to be completely silent on so where can I find the basis for saying Mary was conceived without sin or cleansed as she was conceived?
NO. NO. NO.
Ya gotta remember . . .
The Magic White Hankys are responsible.
Of course in that case, it would have been the
GRAND DAME GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT . . . . GRAND MOTHER MOTHER SUPERIOR ORIGINAL MAGIC WHITE HANKY
Plan to put some on next time I change dressing.
What’s your perspective on only changing the dressing every 2-3 days?
I think I would change it ‘now’ more often to add more honey to avoid any infection. Once it starts to heal - I think longer intervals of changing the bandage would be OK.
Forgot to add - I would change it 2x a day for a couple of days.
It has liberal doses of NEOSPORN . . .
and there’s no evidence of infection.
So sorry for your loss.
Then once a day! Right now - for the first couple of days - I’d be proactive. When did you change it last?
I totally agree. I was thinking about how much different I am now than before. There has been much growth and maturity in my faith and my walk with the Lord. Doesn't it seem like now we do the things that bring glory to God and honor him without usually even thinking about it? Like the people Jesus spoke about who would say to him "When did we see you hungry and fed you...?" they were living their faith because it was a natural extension of the spirit-nature and, when we live in obedience to the Lord, we naturally do good works out of a new heart. Those without this new birth will constantly struggle with sin and they seem to be the ones who NEED the "hair shirts", self-flaggelation and such to try and fight the urges of the old nature. I'm not saying we never mess up, just that those times get fewer and we do good because we have the desire to.
Praise the Lord for your healing progress. If you feel throbbing, try raising your arm at the elbow, it helps stop bleeding and lessen pain. Praying for a complete recovery! And be careful! We like having you here. :o)
John the Baptist didn’t do that because of penance he lived that way because he was a Nazirite like Samson. He was actually a Nazirite from birth.
Luk 1:13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.
:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.
:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.
:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
Nazrite = “holy to the Lord all the days he is seperated”
This has nothing to do with the Catholic concept of penance.
Numbers 6:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD:
:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
:4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.
:5 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow.
:6 All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.
:7 He shall not make himself unclean for his father, or for his mother, for his brother, or for his sister, when they die: because the consecration of his God is upon his head.
:8 All the days of his separation he is holy unto the LORD.
:9 And if any man die very suddenly by him, and he hath defiled the head of his consecration; then he shall shave his head in the day of his cleansing, on the seventh day shall he shave it.
:10 And on the eighth day he shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons, to the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
:11 And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, and make an atonement for him, for that he sinned by the dead, and shall hallow his head that same day.
:12 And he shall consecrate unto the LORD the days of his separation, and shall bring a lamb of the first year for a trespass offering: but the days that were before shall be lost, because his separation was defiled.
:13 And this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
:14 And he shall offer his offering unto the LORD, one he lamb of the first year without blemish for a burnt offering, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish for a sin offering, and one ram without blemish for peace offerings,
:15 And a basket of unleavened bread, cakes of fine flour mingled with oil, and wafers of unleavened bread anointed with oil, and their meat offering, and their drink offerings.
:16 And the priest shall bring them before the LORD, and shall offer his sin offering, and his burnt offering:
:17 And he shall offer the ram for a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD, with the basket of unleavened bread: the priest shall offer also his meat offering, and his drink offering.
:18 And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and shall take the hair of the head of his separation, and put it in the fire which is under the sacrifice of the peace offerings.
:19 And the priest shall take the sodden shoulder of the ram, and one unleavened cake out of the basket, and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them upon the hands of the Nazarite, after the hair of his separation is shaven:
:20 And the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: this is holy for the priest, with the wave breast and heave shoulder: and after that the Nazarite may drink wine.
:21 This is the law of the Nazarite who hath vowed, and of his offering unto the LORD for his separation, beside that that his hand shall get: according to the vow which he vowed, so he must do after the law of his separation.
:22 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
:23 Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,
:24 The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
:25 The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
:26 The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
:27 And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.
That's what some of the works advocates miss.
The works that Jesus was talking about were apparently done without the person really being aware of it, in contrast to what many of the salvation by works advocates advocate, that we have to try and do all these good works that precious few people could accomplish, that would have to be conscious.
For someone who is truly saved, the works are the fruit that flows naturally from the life within them.
The kind of works that Jesus referred to cannot be done by someone who is not saved. He doesn't have the capacity to do those kinds of works. And if he's already saved, then he doesn't need the works to earn the salvation he already possesses.
I have my old, falling apart, wide-margin KJV that I used all throughout Bible College. I have so much written in it, cross-refs, notes, poems, prayers, etc. that I would never even consider getting rid of it. I have other versions, but I still use it quite a bit as most of my memory verses are from the King James Bible. When I use the online searches I mostly look up phrases from memory when looking for the chapter/verse in KJV but will often read the verses from other versions for better understanding. I really like also having an online concordance - what a 21st. century treat!
With a serious hand injury, keeping the hand elevated keeps the blood from pooling in the hand and clotting because the circulation is poor. The elevation causes the fluid in the hand to drain out on its own under gravity instead of the heart having to pump it through.
I had carpal tunnel surgery last year and I had to keep my hand elevated for a full two days to help with healing.
I know a man who dropped something on his foot and had a crush kind of injury and he had to keep his foot elevated to allow the blood and fluid to drain out so that he wouldn’t loose his foot. If the blood had clotted in his foot, it would have stopped the circulation and the foot would have died.
Keeping the swelling down is critical in surgeries and injuries, especially where there is the potential for a lot of clotting.
Praying for you, Quix.
I am sorry to hear about your Dad, CB. Prayers for comfort, strength and grace to endure for you and your family and a safe trip there and back.
I cast the foolscap of my understanding upon the blaze of your wisdom to be reduced to the ash of mine humility.
So THAT'S what all those homeless guys are? They're doing penance? ;o)
Let's not forget that John the Baptist may also have taken the Nazarite vow. The angel in Luke 1:13-15 that announces the birth of John the Baptist foretells that "he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb".
Why else do you think he gave them to us?
I don't think he gave you your brain to create your own Christian Church - along with dozens of others doing the same thing creating other churches.
Christ established His Church, the pillar and foundation of truth, with Him as the head, guided by the Holy Spirit, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
You don't have to create Christ's Church all over again, starting with one piece of the Church, the only piece which you use to derive meanings and beliefs far afield from His Church. and arriving at a theology contrary to those given to the Apostles by Christ and passed down through the Church by their successors.
This is rebelling against Christ.
To use your brain to attempt this is not using your brain well or wisely - as God intended.
Actually, it was typical Catholic priest "sleaze" that couldn't stomach the truth of what the Gospel really is.
No? Catholic "pastors" have done much worse things to the flock!
And let’s not forget that the rich, young ruler was convinced he had kept the law perfectly from his youth. We know and Jesus SURE knew that he was deceiving himself for “All have sinned”. Until we come to the understanding of our sinfulness and our need of the Savior, we can never be saved regardless of how good we think we are or can be.