Skip to comments.Punishment "medieval" in the Diocese of Caransebes ("concelebrating" orthodox priest defrocked)
Posted on 11/08/2010 1:32:11 PM PST by markomalley
*****NOTE THE FOLLOWING IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION FROM ROMANIAN*****
Hundreds of blogs include pictures and comments, positive or negative, about the events of 23 May 2010 in Montana Bocsa Orthodox parish. Orthodox parish priest, Dr. Daniel Crecan, is accused by his superiors "that would have given the sacred mysteries that would be unorthodox and concelebrated Mass with the Roman Catholic priest Philip Rolf Schoenenberg in Pentecost Sunday." Orthodox believers say that, in fact, their priest concelebrated, but attended Catholic Mass, in the spirit of good understanding that prevails among all Christians in their community.
Caransebes Diocese Consistory and was degraded before the priest Daniel Crecan, but that did appeal to the Metropolitan Consistory of Timisoara. During this period, however, Daniel Crecan priest he was not granted permission to serve in the parish church, which is very much dissatisfied with the faithful there.
Despite all the photos Internet , Which apparently had been posted on the facebook profile of the priest, believers say this not with the priest concelebrated Schoenenberg Philip Rolf, whilst acknowledging that it was present in the Church, but say they would not utter a word . Moreover, angry that their priest was punished, people have not closed the church and the priest sent by the Episcopal parish or to commit to replace the Mass, ie the Sunday service or remembrance of the dead, who had Banat Sunday, the eve celebrate the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel. "Our priest did nothing than he did when he attended the Patriarch Teoctist job made by Pope John Paul II. Well, if it is so serious, why not have him defrocked and the patriarch? On the contrary, the priest should be commended, for it encourages better understanding between faiths. We are all Christians. Then, where this intolerance of the medieval type of Caransebes? What is ecumenism with the parade of the Diocese? Be, then, Bishop defrocked and prays every Sunday for the unity of faith. That was our priest: he gave evidence of brotherly love towards other Christians, "I take defense young local priest punished. They ask the Metropolitan of Banat, IPS Nicolae Corneanu to raise the penalty imposed Bocsa pastor of Montana.
Pressure on incumbent
Although the church has reached dean Resita, Catalin Nicolae Mirişan, nearly 200 believers gathered in front of the church have refused to open the door and took him to get on the dean. They asked him to cancel the sanctions on Crecan priest and another priest had not threatened her support there.
The talks have degenerated, and people literally fight with Dean that accused him of all sorts of irregularities and dirty things. In the midst of people came and the mayor, who tried to defend Crecan priest and bishop to plead clemency Lucian.
However, after more than two hours of talks and blaming people have refused to open the church and Dean was forced to backtrack in Resita, from whence it came, found no understanding of the faithful Bocsa Montana neighborhood.
Various Romanian blogs and websites are reporting that Fr. Daniel Crecan -- the Romanian Orthodox priest who concelebrated with a Roman Catholic priest in May of this year, as reported on Rorate -- has been defrocked by his bishop for this act. (See this, this and this, among the many reports from Romania.)
Don’t know if any of you have anything to add to this...
>>What is ecumenism with the parade of the Diocese?<<
Question of the year.
I haven’t heard this, but if indeed an Orthodox priest purported to concelebrate the Divine Liturgy with a Roman Catholic priest, then it’s likely he ought to be defrocked as being disobedient to his bishop. When bishops are not in communion with each other, their priests are forbidden from celebrating the Liturgy together.
There is mention in one of the articles of activities in the ME. What goes on in Lebanon is not concelebration, but rather intercommunion, which isn’t officially approved either but which is overlooked as I have noted in the past.
Our small Maronite Catholic parish has many mixed families where wife or husband are Syrian Orthodox. These families drive back and forth between the two churches, celebrating Baptisms, Weddings, First Communion and the like. When a new priest arrived to serve their community, our Lebanese priest invited him to some of our fundraising events and vv. When one of the mixed families lost their Orthodox parent, our pastor offered to assist the Orthodox priest prepare 'missalettes' for the funeral service. On the feast day of the Orthodox priest's patron saint, he attended liturgy (but did not participate) at our parish and extended the same invitation to our priest, on his patron saint's feast day.
These two priests enjoyed a common middle eastern heritage and that made for good companionship. Otherwise, I do not know of any situation where either participated in the other's liturgical service.
I tried to read what was posted, but the more I read, the more it read like jibberish.
The first question one must ask is what action does the most to advance the Kingdom of God?
“The first question one must ask is what action does the most to advance the Kingdom of God?”
I have to agree with you! It’s impossible to even tell what points they are trying to make.
The Syrian Orthodox are, like Coptic Orthodox, pre-Chalcedonian, and should not be confused with Eastern Orthodox, who like the Roman Catholic Church are a Chalcedonian community.
This Romanian priest violated the canons and disobeyed his bishop who is not in communion with the Bishop of Rome. He was legally defrocked. End of story.