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American Exorcist Plies His Lonely Trade
AP via NewsOK ^ | 11/11/10 | Daniel Burke

Posted on 11/11/2010 8:38:52 PM PST by marshmallow

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So, why haven't more bishops appointed exorcists? "Because they do not believe in them," Thomas answered. "In my opinion, then, they should not be bishops."

No more calls please, we have a winner.

1 posted on 11/11/2010 8:38:55 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Still, it wouldn’t hurt to have a exorcism at the WH.


2 posted on 11/11/2010 8:54:13 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: marshmallow; Quix; Joya
"No more calls please, we have a winner."

Really?

My understanding of Roman Catholic protocol is that they won't even interview a subject until an unbiased psychiatric evaluation has ruled out any mental illness.

If you have any aquaintences who are extreme rabid lefties, ask them if they will look you in the eye and say, "Jesus Christ is Lord" or, alternately, "Jesus Christ is come in the flesh."

You'll see some interesting reactions. If they can see through their rage they sometimes cannot stay in the same room where His names is spoken.

Just sayin.'

3 posted on 11/11/2010 9:09:52 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

INDEED.


4 posted on 11/11/2010 9:11:58 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

That was fast!


5 posted on 11/11/2010 9:12:53 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: marshmallow

The Swimmer is already gone. But, Bawney Fwank’s available and Harry Reid, Miss America and some others in DC, Joe Bite Me, etc.


6 posted on 11/11/2010 9:22:01 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: marshmallow

Yes. If I was a priest, I have no doubt I’d be called to be an exorcist. I am only sad one has to be a priest to do so properly.


7 posted on 11/11/2010 9:23:34 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: marshmallow

Is there any way to find out which bishops/priests are registered to attend? I’d really like to know if any of them are from my area. Thanks


8 posted on 11/11/2010 9:43:59 PM PST by Lil Flower (Confucius says: Wise man never play leap frog with unicorn.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure that Satan is delighted with the snarky, cynical, sophisticated tone in which this article is written. May God have mercy on the ignorance of this vain author. As C.S. Lewis noted, the Devil is pleased when humans don’t believe in him.


9 posted on 11/11/2010 10:09:42 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: oprahstheantichrist; Quix; marshmallow
Hi O -I do not think you are too far from the truth. When I worked in Overnight delivery I did pick-ups for the next day delivery. I would go into Tower records a huge store at the time. They would have a magazine rack filled with some satanic mags with other mags. Then in the small book shelf the satanic bible by A . L. would be presented.

But before I knew this the salesperson in the Front would look all around me. Then call me goody two shoes. He would mock me. So eventually I would plead the blood of Christ. He would walk away until I was done in the store. Some times with a small snarl. Just remember these days are getting weird. The blood of Cavalry! Praise Jesus!

10 posted on 11/11/2010 10:26:04 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: johngrace
I would go into Tower records a huge store at the time. They would have a magazine rack filled with some satanic mags

I'll grant that the Satanic Bible is Satanic (by definition), but what magazine titles could you buy at Tower Records that were "Satanic"? I'm not aware of the Church of Satan ever publishing a news stand magazine...

11 posted on 11/11/2010 10:36:57 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: ottbmare
I’m sure that Satan is delighted with the snarky, cynical, sophisticated tone in which this article is written.

Well, what do you expect? If I was writing an article on a superstition such as astrology or witches having magic powers I would certainly try to be sophisticated about it; and as for being snarky and cynical...why not? Some beliefs deserve to be mocked.

Why should an article on another superstition (demonic possession) be any different?

12 posted on 11/11/2010 10:49:27 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: oprahstheantichrist; marshmallow; Quix
"My understanding of Roman Catholic protocol is that they won't even interview a subject until an unbiased psychiatric evaluation has ruled out any mental illness."

I have read many exorcist articles and books over the years. Basically that can be the rule but there are exceptions. I have read about a few priest in a Rome church where people from Italy or the world go to be delivered. These priests are so attuned to the spirit they can tell right away. They do it almost everyday with lines. Just by the massive experience.

Also remember according to one book people can be both mentally ill and possessed. But you have to have some patience. I remember reading about Smith Wigglesworth He once delivered by just singing Jesus with others. Then another time took days to deliver.

13 posted on 11/11/2010 10:50:50 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Abin Sur

This was the 1990’s. To me this is poison. So I do not want to remember. Aversion. So I believe if I can remember something like Satanic coven magazine or just a pentagram with hardly words on the cover. Dark colors always. Spellcasters magazines. I only saw this at this place only. I do not remember any where else.


14 posted on 11/11/2010 11:00:09 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: ottbmare

You got that right!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2468045/posts


15 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:06 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: Abin Sur

Well, welcome to FR.


16 posted on 11/11/2010 11:07:21 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: GOP Poet

One must know what he’s doing to fight these demons. Read the Bible about the man attempting to casting out a demon and the demon beat the crap out of him. I would never attempt it.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 11:39:04 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

great example. no I would never attempt it either unless I was a trained priest.


18 posted on 11/11/2010 11:56:52 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: marshmallow

The AP may call him a lonely exorcist but I suggest he is always in high spirits.


19 posted on 11/12/2010 12:12:29 AM PST by tlb
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To: GOP Poet; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
I am only sad one has to be a priest to do so properly.

TOO BAD SOME DON'T BELIEVE IN MARK 16:15-18 . . . and that it is for the priesthood of all Believers in the Saving Blood of Jesus The Christ and in a Spirit-led life of walking WITH AND IN HIM:

Mark 16:15-18 (The Message)
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14-16Still later, as the Eleven were eating supper, he appeared and took them to task most severely for their stubborn unbelief, refusing to believe those who had seen him raised up. Then he said, "Go into the world. Go everywhere and announce the Message of God's good news to one and all. Whoever believes and is baptized is saved; whoever refuses to believe is damned.

17-18"These are some of the signs that will accompany believers: They will throw out demons in my name, they will speak in new tongues, they will take snakes in their hands, they will drink poison and not be hurt, they will lay hands on the sick and make them well."
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Mark 16:15-18 (Amplified Bible)
15And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach and publish openly the good news (the Gospel) to every creature [of the whole [a]human race]. .
16He who believes [who adheres to and trusts in and relies on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] and is baptized will be saved [[b]from the penalty of eternal death]; but he who does not believe [who does not adhere to and trust in and rely on the Gospel and Him Whom it sets forth] will be condemned.
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17And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
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18They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.
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Mark 16:15-18 (English Standard Version)
15And he said to them, (A) "Go into all the world and(B) proclaim the gospel to(C) the whole creation. 16(D) Whoever believes and is(E) baptized(F) will be saved, but(G) whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And(H) these signs will accompany those who believe:(I) in my name they will cast out demons;(J) they will speak in new tongues; 18(K) they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them;(L) they will lay their hands(M) on the sick, and they will recover."

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Cross references:
A.Mark 16:15 : Matt 28:19
B.Mark 16:15 : Col 1:23; Mark 13:10; Acts 1:8; Rom 10:18
C.Mark 16:15 : Rom 8:22
D.Mark 16:16 : John 3:18
E.Mark 16:16 : John 3:5
F.Mark 16:16 : Acts 16:31; Rom 10:9; 1 Pet 3:21
G.Mark 16:16 : Mark 16:11; Luke 24:11, 41; Acts 28:24; 1 Pet 2:7; 2 Thess 2:12
H.Mark 16:17 : Mark 11:23
I.Mark 16:17 : Acts 5:16; 8:7; 16:18; 19:12; Mark 9:38
J.Mark 16:17 : Acts 2:4; 10:46; 19:6; 1 Cor 12:10, 28, 30; 13:1; 14:2, 4
K.Mark 16:18 : Luke 10:19; Acts 28:3-5
L.Mark 16:18 : Mark 5:23
M.Mark 16:18 : Acts 5:15, 16; 8:7; 9:12, 17; 28:8; James 5:14, 15; John 14:12


20 posted on 11/12/2010 2:06:32 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: johngrace

INDEED. AMEN! AMEN!

MARK 16:15-18 APPLIES.


21 posted on 11/12/2010 2:37:34 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: johngrace

You are quite right.


22 posted on 11/12/2010 2:38:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: johngrace

And, IIRC,

re Wigglesworth . . . there was a couple having serious problems . . . I forget the nature of them . . . may have been demonic, sexual, what not . . . Wigglesworth for some reason had been spending the night at their house during his campaign. They asked him the last day what they could do . . . and he said to sleep in the bed he slept in without changing anything. They did and the problems were delivered/cured.


23 posted on 11/12/2010 2:40:26 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: johngrace

Praise Christ Jesus indeed! Sobering testimony.


24 posted on 11/12/2010 3:04:59 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: marshmallow

I read the book, The Rite. It is very compelling. God Bless these spiritual warriors.


25 posted on 11/12/2010 4:52:16 AM PST by waxer1 ("The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Quix
10-4 Good Buddy!

I just read MARK 16:15-18 again. Absolutely! Praise Jesus!

15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.

Amen= So Be It!

26 posted on 11/12/2010 5:37:23 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Terry Mross
BOOK OF ACTS 19:

"13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, “In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.” 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding."

This happened because they did not really have a firm belief yet.

27 posted on 11/12/2010 5:59:31 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Quix
Oh Quix! I went from comment page on my account did not see your good references of scripture. But! Praise Jesus!

I'll check those for study! Amen!

28 posted on 11/12/2010 6:08:12 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Terry Mross
I would not seek out but remember:

1JOHN 4:4 "You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world."

Remember the Lord's prayer or Our Father is a deliverance Pray also:

The Our Father

Our Father, Who art in heaven,

Hallowed be Thy Name. Thy Kingdom come.

Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses,

as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us Not into temptation,

but Deliver us from evil. Amen.

29 posted on 11/12/2010 6:17:12 AM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: johngrace

John, you’re right; someone who is truly filled with the Spirit ought to be able to cast out demons, handle snakes, etc. Christ said that if we had so much as the faith of a mustard seed could move mountains (and few people today who don’t grind their own spices realize that a mustard seed is hardly bigger than a fleck of dust).

But the sad fact is that, put to the test, very few of us indeed have enough faith for those things. Jesus wasn’t kidding. We may think we’re strong in the Word, that we have great faith, but not too many of us can stand up and challenge the Prince of Darkness himself. Proper humility ought to make us realize that we can barely resist the temptations to sin that the Evil One puts in our paths every day, much less get into a fistfight with him over someone else’s soul. I’d exercise caution before claiming the faith to cast out demons in His name.


30 posted on 11/12/2010 6:58:59 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: johngrace

They were attempting to do something in His name but were not true believers is the way I understand it. To me, it also means I’d best be fully “armoured” in my faith before attempting to battle satan in a no holds barred type UFC match.

I feel like I battle him daily on the little things he uses to mess with me.


31 posted on 11/12/2010 7:23:42 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: johngrace

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

GOD BE WITH YOU AND YOURS.


32 posted on 11/12/2010 7:28:00 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ottbmare

I also think God knows me well enough to know that I just might move a mountain or two due to my inflated ego. And that wouldn’t be nice.


33 posted on 11/12/2010 7:28:56 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Quix

Thank you for those beautiful Scriptures!


34 posted on 11/12/2010 9:09:58 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: johngrace
The blood of Cavalry(sic)!

Calvary

35 posted on 11/12/2010 9:26:38 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Quix
Too bad that there are so many linguistic literalists who fail to discern the difference between the common priesthood of the believer and the ministerial Priesthood of the ordained, just as Scripture teaches.

"Not every one that saith to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of My Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to Me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in Thy name, and cast out devils in Thy name, and done many miracles in Thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21-23

"And having called His twelve disciples together, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of diseases, and all manner of infirmities. And the names of the twelve apostles are these: The first, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the publican, and James the son of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, Simon the Cananean, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him." Matthew 10:1-4

36 posted on 11/12/2010 9:42:06 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Quix
TOO BAD SOME DON'T BELIEVE IN MARK 16:15-18

Too bad some don't believe in John 6. But that's an aside.

The issue here is not whether someone who is not an ordained priest can cast out a demon, but whether they ought to, and whether they ought to be permitted to exercise that ministry in the name of the Church.

Exorcism is intrinsically a spiritually dangerous enterprise. It involves interacting with, and frequently directly addressing, entities who are far more intelligent than human beings, and also more malevolent than almost any human being you are likely to meet.

Someone who is deficient in faith, grace, wisdom, prudence, or knowledge can easily place themselves, the person being exorcised, or even third party bystanders in grave spiritual danger. The scene in the movie The Exorcist where the demon attempted to tempt Fr. Damien by mimicking the voice of his dead mother is not too far-fetched, from my reading.

Not to mention that demonic entities can sometimes place exorcists and others in significant physical peril as well.

37 posted on 11/12/2010 11:08:17 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

Thank you for this post.

As usual, you have said it well.


38 posted on 11/12/2010 12:57:04 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Sorry I meant Cross of Cavalry.


39 posted on 11/12/2010 4:14:04 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Terry Mross

I know bless your Heart!


40 posted on 11/12/2010 4:29:03 PM PST by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Abin Sur

Haven’t met you before, and am sure we won’t have enough time to get acquainted.


41 posted on 11/12/2010 5:01:57 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Campion; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

I was trained in a house church that had a series of lessons taught by none other than Derek Prince himself . . . one of the foremost Evangelicals/Pentecostals skilled, anointed and experienced in exorcisms and discerning and dealing with evil spirits of all kinds.

Such was common in our congregation . . . teens and even children dealt with demonic spirits via the Blood of Jesus and Holy Spirit quite effectively in the child-like faith they walked in . . . just as Christ taught . . . was necessary to enter the Kingdom of Heavenn.

BTW. I don’t think much of the Vatican’s arbitrary slicing and dicing of symbolic and literal aspects of John 6.


42 posted on 11/12/2010 7:41:31 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Is he a ‘Muslim’ ‘agnostic’ troll?


43 posted on 11/12/2010 7:45:20 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

IMHO he is a secular atheist, but who can be sure these days.


44 posted on 11/12/2010 8:20:45 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Quix

IMHO he is a secular atheist, but who can be sure these days.


45 posted on 11/12/2010 8:20:45 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: txhurl; Abin Sur; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Quix; daniel1212; MrB; christianhomeschoolmommaof3; ...
Well, welcome to FR.

Looking at its posting history...

It has *retread* written all over it- evo/atheist style.....

46 posted on 11/12/2010 8:21:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

That only proves the fact that demoncrats, and liberals, are pure and unadulterated evil.


47 posted on 11/12/2010 8:24:40 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Quix; Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Posting histories are invaluable resources.....

If you get my drift.....


48 posted on 11/12/2010 8:32:41 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

What’s the Arabic name mean?


49 posted on 11/12/2010 8:33:48 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ottbmare
I’m sure that Satan is delighted with the snarky, cynical, sophisticated tone in which this article is written. May God have mercy on the ignorance of this vain author. As C.S. Lewis noted, the Devil is pleased when humans don’t believe in him.

The Screwtape Letters is where you'll find that. An excellent read to get Lewis's perspective.

50 posted on 11/12/2010 8:35:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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