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Evangelical: We Don't Need Rite of Exorcism, Just Jesus
Christian Post ^ | 12/16/10 | Audrey Barrick

Posted on 11/16/2010 7:17:47 AM PST by marshmallow

With renewed attention on the rite of exorcism, one theologian has chosen to articulate the evangelical stance on the ritual that few practice today.

The existence of the devil and demons are real but a rite of exorcism is unnecessary, said Dr. Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in his popular blog Monday.

The only weapon Christians need is the name of Jesus, he stressed.

"Evangelicals do not need a rite of exorcism, because to adopt such an invention would be to surrender the high ground of the Gospel," Mohler wrote.

This past weekend, a group of Catholic bishops held a closed-door conference in Baltimore to discuss the theological foundations of the rite of exorcism and to present, in detail, the practice and use of the rites associated with exorcism.

Bishop Thomas J. Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., who organized the conference, said that demon possession is rare but that they have to be prepared.

"The real hope here and the purpose is to provide some training so that really every diocese could have its own resources to handle such inquires," he told ABC News.

Not all Catholic priests are on board with Paprocki's efforts.

One priest who sent the National Catholic Reporter a copy of the invitation letter by Paprocki back in May wrote: "CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? IN 2010."

Mohler does not deny accounts in the New Testament that show clear and real cases of demonic possession. Jesus and the Apostle Paul liberated afflicted individuals, he noted.

But the evangelical leader pointed out that no rite of exorcism was performed in those cases and there was no notion of a priestly ministry of ordained exorcists. The only thing involved in casting out demons from an individual was "the name of Jesus and the proclamation of the......."

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To: paladin1_dcs; TSgt
The rite of exorcism most definitely rebukes demons in the name of Jesus, through the Cross, through the Blood of Jesus, etc. What Dr. Mohler is saying is a little like saying, "I don't need leather seats, a stereo, and air conditioning -- I already have a car."

Duh. The leather seats, stereo, and A/C come with a car -- they're just accoutrements of a very nice, "tricked-out" car, in fact.

21 posted on 11/16/2010 7:50:12 AM PST by Campion
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To: marshmallow

Exactly what part of the rite of exorcism is objectionable? Holy water (I suppose we could reach down and mix spit with the dust), the prayers? The sign of the cross?

No Romany Catholic would deny that God can work through His saints in less formal ways. But why do Evangelicals think God won’t work through formal means?

BTW I’m not RC

22 posted on 11/16/2010 7:51:06 AM PST by Rippin
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To: marshmallow

I like this thread. I agree with the rite. It is the practice of 2000 years of doing it right as opposed to 500 years of doing whatever.

Of course a Southern Baptist is gonna downplay Roman Catholic rites...Duh? but do you ever watch those ghost shows on TV? I’ve noticed when the “Baptist” can’t clear an evil haunting they always refer to a priest.

just an observation.


Bro Joe

23 posted on 11/16/2010 7:51:26 AM PST by Catholic Examiner
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To: Houghton M.

Funny how all that stuff is in the Bible but so many miss it because it doesn’t fit with what they already believe.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 7:52:16 AM PST by tiki
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To: ArrogantBustard

Do I know what the Christ is?

He became human, but He also never gave up His diety completely, so I would hazard a guess that I have a better understanding of what the Christ is than you give me credit for. If He wasn’t a “human person” then He couldn’t qualify as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

He is fully God and fully Man at the same time.

25 posted on 11/16/2010 8:01:17 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Coldwater Creek

Certain types of Baptist denominations do. Free Will Baptists, for example.

26 posted on 11/16/2010 8:03:26 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: agere_contra
Only to the "authorized" apostles?

And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us. Luke 9:49-50

Those "keys to the kingdom" were given to all Jesus disciples, not just the 12 - see Matthew 18:1-20.
27 posted on 11/16/2010 8:07:58 AM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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To: TSgt

He was a practicing Jew.

28 posted on 11/16/2010 8:08:55 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Standing by the walls of Minas Tirith as Sauron's forces pound the gates...)
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To: Campion

Agreed, but what we are saying is that those things are powerless unless used in conjunction with the authority granted to all believers by Christ. Are the extras nice? I guess, but the extras don’t do anything without the power behind them active.

29 posted on 11/16/2010 8:08:55 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Salvation

I see you read the article very carefully before commenting....

30 posted on 11/16/2010 8:10:20 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

In one respect, yes, but it’s hard not to practice the very laws that you yourself handed down to Moses.

31 posted on 11/16/2010 8:12:49 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Sorry for sounding dense, but what’s that supposed to mean?

32 posted on 11/16/2010 8:14:42 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Palter

I was wondering if someone would mention that. It’s very interesting, to say the least.

33 posted on 11/16/2010 8:16:11 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: marshmallow
Of interest.

For Catholics, Interest in Exorcism Is Revived

34 posted on 11/16/2010 8:16:55 AM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: paladin1_dcs
He is fully God and fully Man at the same time.

Yes ... but He is one person, not two, and that Person is Divine. Because He is a Divine Person, His sacrifice is perfect ... therefore His sacrifice, carried out in His human nature, could atone for our sins.

35 posted on 11/16/2010 8:20:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Houghton M.; tiki

in Luke 9:49-50

“Master,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us.”

“Do not stop him,” Jesus said, “for whoever is not against you is for you.”

Thought you 2 might be interested in these verses.

36 posted on 11/16/2010 8:29:43 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Agreed. He is one portion of the three-in-one nature of God. He’s fully human as well as fully divine, at the same time, and I’ll leave it at that. I don’t really feel like getting into a debate on the theology behind this.

37 posted on 11/16/2010 8:38:55 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Salvation
>>He blessed the Apostles — the first priests — and that blessing continues down to the present day.<< Actually there is a problem with that Salvation. At the Council of Trent the Roman Catholic Church put itself above the authority of Scripture which was very dangersous. The Apostles always refered to written Scripture as the ultimate authority for what they said.

At the last opening on the eighteenth of January, 1562, all hesitation was set aside: [Gaspar de Fosso] the Archbishop of Reggio made a speech in which he openly declared that tradition stood above Scripture. The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the church had changed circumcision into baptism, Sabbath into Sunday, not by the command of Christ, but by its own authority. With this, to be sure, the last illusion was destroyed, and it was declared that tradition does not signify antiquity, but continual inspiration.

Source: Heinrich Julius Holtzmann, Kanon und Tradition ("Canon and Tradition") (Ludwigsburg: Druck and Verlag von Ferd. Riehm, 1859), p. 263. German.

It subsequently declared the ascension of Mary which is outside of Biblical truth.

If the Church does not revert to the total authority of Scripture I'm afraid they will continue down a wrong path.

38 posted on 11/16/2010 8:47:44 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: marshmallow

I must agree, to take on all these other ministries is below the high calling of the Gospel.
For “The Gospel power is the power of God unto salvation! For therein is the righteousness of God revealed.” (Romans 1;16b-17a)
And our God hath chosen preaching: “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us that are saved it the power of God.” (1 Corinthians 1:18)
“God hath chosen the foolishness things of the world to confound the wise; God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty; “ (1 corinthians 1:27)

May we pray: “Dear Lord and God, help us to chose those things that you have chosen, and serve you in all righteousness,holiness and in truth.”

May we not forget: “For He (God) hath made Him (Jesus) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)
“Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above ever name.” (Philippians 2:9)

39 posted on 11/16/2010 8:52:32 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: marshmallow
Fr. Paprocki, once referred to as the "Running Reverend," is on a great mission IMO. We need more exorcists! While there may be only a few people truly possessed, it is of utmost importance to contact a Roman Catholic priest if you believe someone to have demons. The demons (as they are front and center) can enter a body that is not properly protected. In The Secret of the Rosary, St. Louis De Montfort states:
Saint Dominic had them all say the Rosary very slowly and with great devotion, and a wonderful thing happened; at each Hail Mary that he and the people said together a large group of devils issued forth from the wretched man's body under the guise of red-hot coals [this particular man had 15,000 demons because he had attacked the fifteen mysteries (this was prior to the Luminous Mysteries) of the Rosary].
The devils went on to scream at St. Dominic that the Rosary was like a chain that beat them and whipped them.

A Southern Baptist would not likely use the power of the Rosary to eradicate demons. I don't know how successful he would be without it (and the other exorcism prayers).
40 posted on 11/16/2010 8:56:54 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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