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To: aces

homosexuality is a flesh passion not a genetic calling...”

True...but it is much, much worse than that. It is much more deranged and sick than the flesh that normal men feel for with beautiful (and sometimes less than beautiful) women, for example. Perfectly understandable, and there is nothing perverted or distorted about that. It is flesh, and the flesh has to be beaten back.

But homosexuality is completely twisted.

At the minimum, it is a very, very serious mental illness. But of course the most accurate portrayal is in Romans 1. A mind that has gone down that road is one that has been turned over as depraved.

Yes, we should have compassion on homosexuals. They are usually abused, and very sad figures.

But...in my experience, they are truly depraved and sick. I a homosexual would very easily kill you if just pushed a little in the right direction. They are dangerous, sick, twisted characters who should not be trusted for anything.

Christ can bring them salvation and restoration, of course, as you have noted. But the repentance from homosexuality is not something that can be done glibly, because it is so deep rooted and so deranged.


17 posted on 11/16/2010 10:20:34 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

sentence above should read (reminder to self, proofreading is a virtue!):

I BELIEVE a homosexual would very easily kill you if just pushed a little in the right direction. They are dangerous, sick, twisted characters who should not be trusted for anything.


18 posted on 11/16/2010 10:22:22 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

I do agree, it is demonic, but let’s be honest and understand that to God all sins are sins, they are not separated into sins he can live with, no , all have fallen short of the glory of God...all sins are despicable and abominations to our Holy Father whom we cannot even look upon without dying..
While indeed homosexuality is a terrible sin, all sins have their demonic roots and all demons are satanic..That is why we need Jesus salvation so much...Even today the best Christians are sinners and grievous unto God, if it were not for the blood of Christ in our hearts we would be possessed..
Because of this it is al;so important that those who have indulged in any sinful activity be able to forgive themselves while at the same time viewing the sin as what it is, demonic..looking at others wives with lust etc...you know the 10 commandments I am sure, while forgiven of these sins in Christ, the 10 commandments will once again be real in Heaven, it could not be Heaven unless we obeyed these commandments..
Peace to you in Christ..


23 posted on 11/16/2010 12:24:03 PM PST by aces
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To: ConservativeDude; aces; Tax-chick
To me, this is the key quote:

The exclusion of the Creator determines a universal derailing of reason: "They became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. While claiming to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:21-22).

Yes, homosexual behavior --- perverse sex relations, split off from their true meaning of man-woman bonding and fertility --- spring from a "flesh passion," but much moreso, and more dangerous, is that the wide acceptance of the "twisting" of sex involves a derailing of reason.

The almost-universal acceptance of contracepted intercourse, for example, is a perversion in itself, and paved the way for the acceptance of homosexual intercourse. People no longer accept the intrinsic meaning of intercourse as an act that uniquely "means" the transmission of life (that is, the marital act, unimpaired and unaltered, means "lovemaking is life-making") ---

People who can deliberately twist the act so as to split that meaning away from sexual intercourse, will eventually accept and justify any kind of sexual jack-assery.

This derailing of reason, the denial of the instrinsic structure of sex, goes far beyond the 1 - 2% of the population who are actively homosexual.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 1:01:27 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Contracepting couples are heterosexual gays." -- Richard Rodriguez)
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To: ConservativeDude

Yet, we aren’t allowed to judge what’s in a person’s heart. God looks on the heart. So, if someone is clearly gay looking and at church, I guess we have to think the best of him, and that that little sodomy thing is between him and his maker.


32 posted on 11/17/2010 6:58:02 AM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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