To: Persevero; agere_contra
Sigh, Latin Rite, Maronite Rite, Syro-Malabar Rite etc. are not separate Churches with separate theology. The theology and dogma are the same, that of Christ's as taught by His Apostles and passed down through His Church, the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church. These are Autonomous ("sui iuris") particular Churches, aggregations of local particular Churches that share a specific liturgical, theological and canonical tradition. The largest such autonomous particular Church is the Latin Rite. The others are referred to collectively as the Eastern Catholic Churches. The larger Eastern Catholic Churches are headed by a bishop who has the title and rank of patriarch or major archbishop.
All acknowledge the bishop of Rome as the primus inter pares and all share the same dogma and theology. Disciplines may differ (for example, in the Eastern Catholic Churchs, you may have married men becoming priests (but not priests getting married)), however dogma is the same.
Secondly, Jesuits, Franciscans, Benedictans, Dominicans, Mother Teresa's Roses etc. are all orders of priests or nuns or monks. These are groups of Catholic religious or laity who chose to follow a particular discipline -- for example, Carthusians wish to glorify and pray to God living as hermits, cut off from the world, Mother Teresa's nuns are to go directly into the world, the Jesuit religious are to work directly with the people and follow a military discipline etc., however, they all follow the common Catholic basic dogma. If they don't, then they are chucked out, like the Mariavite Church.
Thirdly, the politico-groups you refer to such as politicos are just that -- political groups, no different than "Democrats for Romney" or "Republicans for Romney" or "Chinese Juggling belly-dancers with blonde hair choosing to dance the tango with Irish kathak dancers" --> these are not Churches or a Church dogma. They are purely individual initiative groups.
posted on 11/18/2010 7:08:05 AM PST
(This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
“All acknowledge the bishop of Rome as the primus inter pares and all share the same dogma and theology. Disciplines may differ (for example, in the Eastern Catholic Churchs, you may have married men becoming priests (but not priests getting married)), however dogma is the same.”
I know. But I still think there is a similarity, let’s say, between evangelical Baptists, Presbyterians, Congregationalists and Methodists. We all share the same basic doctrines, encapsulated in the Apostle’s creed; we all acknowledge Jesus as head of the Church and the Bible as the only source of doctrine.
We differ in “minors,” that is, church government, and/or finer points of doctrine. But we accept one another as fellow Christians.
Baptist baptize on profession of faith only; Presbyterians baptize infants of believers. It’s a different “rite.”
“Thirdly, the politico-groups you refer to such as politicos are just that — political groups, no different than “Democrats for Romney” or “Republicans for Romney” or “Chinese Juggling belly-dancers with blonde hair choosing to dance the tango with Irish kathak dancers” —> these are not Churches or a Church dogma. They are purely individual initiative groups.”
Absolutely, and I don’t like them intertwined in the “Protestant” or “Christian” groups. Presbyterians for Choice are no more Christians than Gay Catholics are. They are just usurpers, who slap the name upon themselves and then behave horribly and agitate for evil, thereby imputing evil to the Presbyterians or the Catholics they claim to “represent.”
I don’t see schismatic or heretic groups as representatives of Roman Catholics; and I don’t like it when schismatic or heretic groups are accepted as representative of Protestants. It is not fair in either case.
Similarly, I don’t hold the sexually subversive priests in the news lately as representatives of Catholics; nor should the sexually depraved big name ‘evangelists’ in the news lately be considered representative of Protestants.
posted on 11/18/2010 11:05:49 AM PST
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