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Abusive mom was leader of LDS children's organization, story on Dr. Phil (OPEN)
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Posted on 11/20/2010 7:38:09 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Abusive LDS stake primary president on Dr. Phil. 
 
This video was VERY difficult for me to watch.
 
http://drphil.com/videos/?Url=/house/flv/9039_1.flv&background=header_drphil_video.jpg
 
This information was sent to me by someone who remembered her from a visit to a friend in her area and that she was a primary president at the time. Primary is the mormon childrens' organization. The father is a policeman.
 
The following link to her blog verifies her identity. 
 
http://thebeagleybunch.blogspot.com/
 
The boy is adopted from Russia. There are six children in the home, one a special needs child. The 10 year old daughter took the video.
 
The woman in the video is shown in this blog with a picture she calls her "forever family".
 
She says: "We were sealed in the Bountiful, Utah Temple on June 6, 2009. Our forever family was established 14 years ago. We have SIX very active children. I know we have been blessed to have these sweet spirits in our home."
 


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1 posted on 11/20/2010 7:38:13 AM PST by greyfoxx39
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/20/2010 7:39:17 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

Incredible! Is there a tape available of what Dr. Phil had to say to her? I hope someone is going to say she doesn’t have ANY children left in that house!! If that isn’t child abuse, I don’t know what would be classified as such. No one could watch this without anger and tears.


3 posted on 11/20/2010 8:00:18 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: greyfoxx39

This is an abusive mother. And I think Mormonism is a false religion.

But what has this one abusive mother got to do with Mormonism?

In my state, an evangelical Christian couple locked their adopted Russian son in an unheated room and he died of hypothermia.

Do we draw conclusions about evangelicals? Agnostics? Catholics? Jews? Whatever? Because we can find fatally abusive parents in each group.


4 posted on 11/20/2010 8:04:18 AM PST by heartwood
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To: greyfoxx39
Quite often on the "mormon" threads, we see boasts about the "superiority" of having a lay clergy. This means that none of the leaders have specialized training in their positions, and are chosen by the prayerful "discernment" of other leaders. There has been more than one instance of the process failing.

Admittedly bad apples get through the vetting process of those who are trained leaders, but there is no formal vetting done in filling many of these lay clergy cases.

The "forever family" in temple clothing.

5 posted on 11/20/2010 8:05:46 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: heartwood
But what has this one abusive mother got to do with Mormonism?

The woman is/has been in a position of "Stake" authority in the (Children's) Primary organization. A Stake organization oversees a number of local "wards", or congregations.

See post #5 on the method of choosing leaders in the mormon church.

There are certainly enough FR threads posted on Catholic priests of local organizations.

6 posted on 11/20/2010 8:12:07 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

The biggest lie of all is the mother pretending to be something she is not to her community. Just the screaming alone is abusive - I don’t care what her religion is.

Put her in Parris Island and assign DI’s to scream at her 24 hours a day. They probably wouldn’t have to be assigned - I’m sure they’d line up for the privilege.

This is going to be difficult to remove from the brain of anyone watching it. The warning is right!


7 posted on 11/20/2010 8:16:21 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: greyfoxx39

Good thing none of the little darlings at Gitmo get treated this way. Just imagine if the sh*t this poor kid went through was part of the enhanced interrogation methods applied to al Queda operatives, OH MY!! /s


8 posted on 11/20/2010 8:36:33 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: greyfoxx39

Good thing none of the little darlings at Gitmo get treated this way. Just imagine if the sh*t this poor kid went through was part of the enhanced interrogation methods applied to al Queda operatives, OH MY!! /s


9 posted on 11/20/2010 8:36:47 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: greyfoxx39

Another attempt of taking the terrible behavior of one person with the intent using it to put a church in a bad light. Isn’t this what the libs do all the time when a criminal turns out to be conservative?


10 posted on 11/20/2010 9:12:51 AM PST by skyman
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To: skyman

Or a soldier.


11 posted on 11/20/2010 9:15:53 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: heartwood

“Do we draw conclusions about evangelicals? Agnostics? Catholics? Jews? Whatever? Because we can find fatally abusive parents in each group.”

I agree. There are plenty of official teachings and standard practices in Mormonism to criticize. There is no need to lay the guilt for this at the doorstep of the Mormon so-called church when it is clearly not the normal intention or result of their teaching.


12 posted on 11/20/2010 9:35:52 AM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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There's no way to tell if LDS Family Services was involved in the adoption of the boy, but it's a possibility.

Adopting with LDS Family Services

Pregnant

13 posted on 11/20/2010 9:37:34 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: Gil4
There is no need to lay the guilt for this at the doorstep of the Mormon so-called church when it is clearly not the normal intention or result of their teaching.

Do you post the same comment on threads regarding abuse by Catholic priests?

Are you overlooking that mormon leaders "called" this woman to a position of authority over children in several local congregations?

Have you seen or heard commercials promoting mormon family values on TV or radio? Have you seen posts on FR stating that mormons are "just the nicest people and have the bestest family values" as though family values ARE "the normal intention or result of their teaching"?

Have you personally known mormons who did NOT have the best family values?.....well, as a few others can attest, I have.

I would suggest that if you wish to complain about the notoriety given the mormon church, you might start with this woman who chose to go public with her abuse.

14 posted on 11/20/2010 9:49:19 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

If they just weren’t celibate — then there would be no sexual abuse </sarcasm off


16 posted on 11/20/2010 10:46:42 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: greyfoxx39

So because this person behaves in a criminal way you are implying that the Mormon church can’t teach family values, the leaders must has known and can condoned this, their organization to help adopt unwanted babies must in some way agree or condone this abuse...

Pleeze...this sounds like something I would read on dummie funnies


17 posted on 11/20/2010 10:57:41 AM PST by skyman
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To: Gil4
I can name 5 other lds mothers who act just like this in a single ward. I heard all about things like this as a mormon "high priest" and bishopric member.

The things to take from this is that the LDS are not "led by God in every step" as they constantly claim.

They are not superior family people, in spite of the "stepford wives" type photos and commercials they spend so much on.

There is a dark under current in mormonism that those of us who have escaped recognize immediately in this video.

Salvation by works will make you crazy. No one is perfect, this video is showing one devout mormon mom's viciously desperate attempts to placate the merciless god of mormonism.

I believe that she will be excommunicated for not going to see the $200 an hour LDS counselors and exposing this to the public.

18 posted on 11/20/2010 11:03:13 AM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Harry Reid in only one generation.)
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To: skyman

You are attempting to read my mind while imputing motives to me.


19 posted on 11/20/2010 11:04:43 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: SENTINEL
I believe that she will be excommunicated for not going to see the $200 an hour LDS counselors and exposing this to the public.

One wonders what her motive for exposing herself in this way was. I doubt she believed it would be discovered that she is mormon.

20 posted on 11/20/2010 11:12:59 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

Yet ANOTHER ‘Bash the MORMONs’ thread by a hateful bigot!

WHEN will this EVER stop???

—MormonDude(WHY are they STILL mad about that APOSTATE statement? That was YEARS ago!)


21 posted on 11/20/2010 11:53:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: greyfoxx39
 
 This means that none of the leaders have specialized training in their positions, and are chosen by the prayerful "discernment" of other leaders.


In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)


22 posted on 11/20/2010 11:55:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: skyman
Another attempt of taking the terrible behavior of one person with the intent using it to put a church in a bad light.

So...

Just WHERE is the comment that does this?

Or does just MENTIONING the fact she was LDS do it?

23 posted on 11/20/2010 11:58:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: greyfoxx39

You noticed; eh?


24 posted on 11/20/2010 11:59:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I have to wonder how many more mothers are like that, with the amount of children that they have and the constant need to perfect in the eyes of fellow mormons.


25 posted on 11/20/2010 12:45:45 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: SENTINEL

“I believe that she will be excommunicated for not going to see the $200 an hour LDS counselors and exposing this to the public.”

I love your claims that you were a Mormon ‘high priest’ and bishopric member, because if you were you would actually know the facts about LDS Family Services. The $200 dollar/hour charge is laughable, I know first hand as my husband is a counselor for them, and has been in bishopric and stake calling for over 20 years. If you are going to lie about us, at least get your facts straight...

‘No one is perfect, this video is showing one devout mormon mom’s viciously desperate attempts to placate the merciless god of mormonism.’

You are correct, no one is perfect. As a Mormon wife and mother, I do not claim to be. Nor is my God merciless, he is a God of mercy for which I am eternally grateful. It is that fact that keeps me getting up everyday and trying again to be the best I can be. And I can not think of one Mormon mother that I know who thinks the behavior of this mother is acceptable. I for one was as sickened as anyone else.

My parents were raised in strong pentecostal homes where my father and his silings were beat by their father, judged by the mother as never good enough and raised on hellfire and brimstone by a God of fear. I have some family members who are awesome pentecostals, and do not judge all by my father’s family. To judge an entire religion by the acts of some is unacceptable. And to lie about them and then claim you are a Christian is, well, just sad.


26 posted on 11/20/2010 1:09:52 PM PST by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: greyfoxx39

So heart breaking I couldn’t even watch the whole thing. Does she still have those children?
What did Dr Phil say to her?
Just from the little bit I watched I feel sick. I treat my dogs better than that!


27 posted on 11/20/2010 1:44:32 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: republicanbred; SENTINEL; ejonesie22; Godzilla
To judge an entire religion by the acts of some is unacceptable. And to lie about them and then claim you are a Christian is, well, just sad.

"To judge an entire religion by the acts of some is unacceptable."

Joseph Smith judged ALL religions as "abominable" based on the acts of some...do you find this "unacceptable"? When mormons claim God removed His Gospel from the earth because those religions were wrong, do you find this acceptable?

Perhaps you failed to read in my posts that this woman was "called" to be the stake primary president. IMO, the leaders that failed to discern her character share the blame for her actions...or...discernment is not all it's cracked up to be.

Mormons would like to hold all Christian faiths accountable for the acts of some, yet every single time that a missionary, mormon leader or member utters the words "RESTORATION" OR "APOSTASY" they are criticizing ALL Christian faiths.

The tendency of many mormons to falsely consider themselves superior to any and all who do not share their religion leads to their outrage when stories like this are published.

As the mormons here on FR love to quote, "by their fruits".

28 posted on 11/20/2010 2:03:46 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: kalee
Does she still have those children? What did Dr Phil say to her?

I didn't see any more than that clip, but I've heard that he told her that all her children should be removed from the home and there is supposed to be a follow-up in the future.

There is more to be seen at the woman's blog where she talks about her children, especially her daughter. Scroll down to Kamryn's baptism for her comments including this, "She is so easily touched by the spirit that she is often crying and can't explain why".

Click Here

29 posted on 11/20/2010 2:09:48 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: heartwood

This is an abusive mother. And I think Mormonism is a false religion.

But what has this one abusive mother got to do with Mormonism?

In my state, an evangelical Christian couple locked their adopted Russian son in an unheated room and he died of hypothermia.

Do we draw conclusions about evangelicals? Agnostics? Catholics? Jews? Whatever? Because we can find fatally abusive parents in each group.


How dare you make sense in an anti-Mormon freeper gang thread!


30 posted on 11/20/2010 2:39:44 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: greyfoxx39

I’m sure the little girl does cry all the time and I can pretty easily figure out why she cries and also why she can’t say. Where is the policeman father?


31 posted on 11/20/2010 2:47:49 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee
Where is the policeman father?

???

32 posted on 11/20/2010 3:02:37 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

The father is a policeman.
It’s in the article you posted. I can’t believe he didn’t have any idea this was going on in his home.


33 posted on 11/20/2010 3:07:53 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: greyfoxx39

I’m way more concerned that the little boy’s dad is a policeman and allows this behavior in his home than whether or not the mom is a mormon.


34 posted on 11/20/2010 3:10:12 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: kalee
I can’t believe he didn’t have any idea this was going on in his home.

If YOU were one of her kids, would YOU have the guts to tattle on mom? Remember, abuse without outward evidence...hot sauce and cold showers!

35 posted on 11/20/2010 3:13:18 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

I ws thinking more of an unguarded moment when one of the children tells a lie and begins to cry in front of the father out of fear of the mother and her hot sauce/cold shower treatment. I imagine those horrors are just the tip of the iceberg too.
I am curious how/why the daughter was taping it? Did the mother know she was being taped? How did it get to Dr Phil?
I have lots of questions and I still can’t believe with that number of children in a supposedly intact loving household the father was oblivious.


36 posted on 11/20/2010 3:24:42 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: dragonblustar
Sadly, the "perfect person" image seems to be common in many churches, not just in the LDS church. I have seen people who are silly, outgoing, and imperfect away from their church, but in their church community seem to lose something of themselves and will not speak of anything that even a little off-color, no matter how mild. It's a pressure that people put on each other.

It is a sad thing. I personally prefer people to have little quirks and imperfections.

37 posted on 11/20/2010 3:27:23 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: kalee

I have some of the same questions. Maybe someone will come along and answer them.


38 posted on 11/20/2010 3:33:13 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

My heart pounded thru this video...tears fell and deep sadness..... Before this adult applied punishment she traumatized him psycologicly this boy, instilling further fear into what was already a young kid very much afraid. Futhermore by asking him countless questions about his behavior he could only search for whatever response he knew would be acceptable without facing further punishment should he give a wrong answer...having prior events as this as was revealed.

Making this child hold hot suace in his mouth...I challenge an adult to try this...see how long your survive the ordeal...without someone asking you further questions in the process. So this becaome psycological trauma along with the physical affects on his body.

The cold shower we find the young fellow screeming in tears...there you have fear, pain and an overload of emotions spilling out..yet the adult continues the questioning. Remarkably the young child answers with exactly what the adult wants to hear.

This child is already damaged....his sense of taste, his body temperature, the sound of her voice, his very senses will have created physical and mental memories which will surface throughout life when triggered by adult events of life. Though at his age now he would have likely disassociated from the physical trauma.

This form of abuse is beyond discribing in how it affects the entire mind, body, and soul. It destroys the spirit in a child...it crushes their very heart. If this were to continue the likely hood might be a split personality....pending the frequency and duration of this abuse. IMO

Hopefully the children have been fast removed from these parents..and that for a very long time.


39 posted on 11/20/2010 4:15:32 PM PST by caww
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To: greyfoxx39

I watched the Dr. Phil show. The dad knows full well what’s going on, and he’s the one who suggested the cold showers and hot sauce. He just had the mom do his dirty work.

And that’s the really story, IMO.


40 posted on 11/20/2010 6:19:26 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: kalee

Yes, the mom knew she was being taped. She asked that her daughter tape her so that they could send it in to Dr. Phil. The dad knows what’s happening because he’s suggested some of the methods the mom’s using.


41 posted on 11/20/2010 6:21:24 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: mockingbyrd

How bizarre! Why did the mother want it taped and sent? Is she going to blame it on the father, it was all his idea?


42 posted on 11/20/2010 6:37:37 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

She said she knew she was out of control and needed help so she sent in the video.


43 posted on 11/20/2010 6:47:09 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: kalee

She said she knew she was out of control and needed help so she sent in the video.


44 posted on 11/20/2010 6:47:11 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: mockingbyrd
She said she knew she was out of control and needed help so she sent in the video.

I had to mute the video during the abuse portion, but saw the interview portion on youtube. She seemed to be saying then that she sent it in hoping someone would help her fix his behavior, like she believed that little boy is the problem. If he would just "behave," she wouldn't be angry and have to do those things. Looking at her face while the audience were berating her, she was completely closed off. My take was she didn't get the reaction she had hoped for and wasn't interested in the opinions of people who think she's the problem.

45 posted on 11/20/2010 8:05:48 PM PST by Kanakabaraka
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To: Kanakabaraka

She said that she knew she needed help. And if you look at the video she sent in, she didn’t send anything exhibting the boy’s alleged bad behavior, only her abuse. I think she was stoney, because she was aware of how awful it looked. But they are all in counseling now....so God willing, help is on it’s way. And cameras were installed in their house, to make sure that this behavior doesn’t continue.


46 posted on 11/20/2010 8:15:43 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Remember in November.)
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To: republicanbred
A bishopric counselor is different than then LDS psychologists that serious cases are sent to by the bishop.

I am a direct descendant of the Martin Harris family, raised in Utah from "pioneer stock". I went temporarily blind from exhaustion on several occasions while working full time, going to college full time and fullfilling the bishopric calling I was more a "mormon" than most could ever be.

I'm getting sick and tired of you mormons calling me a liar, murderer, arsonist etc for exposing YOUR RELIGIOUS SECRETS.

I left the church after seeing a post by GreyFoxx here on FR where Joseph Smith claimed to be greater than Christ, and another by Elsie that claimed to be a Brigham Young quote about christ being a married, sinning polygamist, both from the Journal of Discourses. I went to the stake library, and found to my utter horror that THEY WERE BOTH ACTUAL QUOTES RECORDED IN CHURCH PUBLISHED BOOKS available AT THE CHURCH, and verified online at the BYU LIBRARY WEBSITE. "Wo unto those that call evil good and good evil..."-Isaiah

You get your facts straight about your own cult before you bear false witness against me !

Please, Elsie or Greyfox, post up the quotes, I don't have them handy on this computer.

Let republican bred call me a liar, then we post the link at BYU and the pic of the original printed page that his eyes may be opened.

47 posted on 11/20/2010 8:16:54 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Harry Reid in only one generation.)
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To: SENTINEL; All

I am a direct descendant of the Martin Harris family, raised in Utah from “pioneer stock”.

*********************

I am a direct descendent and relatve of the Tackitt family. What say you?


48 posted on 11/20/2010 9:10:11 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: SENTINEL; republicanbred; greyfoxx39; Elsie
Please, Elsie or Greyfox, post up the quotes, I don't have them handy on this computer.

Spotted this first Sentinel, not sure if they are the same, but still making the point

"The Scripture says that He, the Lord, came walking in the Temple, with His train; I do not know who they were, unless His wives and children." - The Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses Vol. 13, p.309

Jedediah M. Grant (second counselor to Brigham Young) stated: "the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based on polygamy…a belief of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p.346).

Smith greater than Christ

I have more to boast of than any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I(History of the Church, Vol.6, pp. 408-09).

49 posted on 11/20/2010 9:40:00 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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I left the church after seeing a post by GreyFoxx here on FR where Joseph Smith claimed to be greater than Christ,
and another by Elsie that claimed to be a Brigham Young quote about christ being a married, sinning polygamist,
both from the Journal of Discourses.
 
Many MORMONs will claim that a quote from the JoD is NOT considered “official”, “scripture”, but.....

 


 
http://www.journalofdiscourses.org/
 


“The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every number (issue) as it comes forth.“ 

(President George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 8.)

 


 

“Each successive Volume of these Discourses is a rich mine of wealth, containing gems of great value, and the diligent seeker will find ample reward for his labor. After the fathers and mothers of this generation have made them the study of their lives their children’s children will find that they are still unexhausted, and rejoice that this Record has been handed down from their fathers to also aid them in following the way of life.” 

 (Apostle Orson Pratt, Preface. Volume 3.)

 


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(President Joseph F. Smith, Preface, Volume 18.)

 


“We take great pleasure in presenting to the Saints and the world the … the Journal of Discourses, which they will find contains rich treasures of information concerning the glorious principles of Eternal Life, as revealed through God’s anointed servants in these last days. All who read the discourses contained in this Volume are earnestly recommended to adapt them to their lives by practice, and we can confidently assure them that, in doing so, they are laying up a store of knowledge that will save and exalt them in the Celestial kingdom.” 

 (Apostle Albert Carrington, Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 15.)

 
 

50 posted on 11/21/2010 5:20:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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