she is just talking and not saying anything...
Posted on 11/23/2010 2:00:38 PM PST by marshmallow
The Queen has spoken of the "difficult" and "painful" choices facing the Church of England as she formally opened the Church's general synod.
She also spoke of the "need to communicate the gospel with joy and conviction in our society".
The Queen addressed the 476 members of the Church's governing body as they marked the start of a five-year term.
The synod will also debate measures to keep the Church together over issues such as same-sex blessings.
And its members are preparing to discuss Prime Minister David Cameron's "big society" idea.
Before her address, the Queen, who is supreme governor of the Church of England, attended a service of Holy Communion at Westminster Abbey, accompanied by the Duke of Edinburgh.
Speaking at the synod meeting, she said: "The new synod will have many issues to resolve to ensure that the Church of England remains equipped for the effective pursuit of its mission and ministry.
"Some will, no doubt, involve difficult, even painful, choices.
"But Christian history suggests that times of growth and spiritual vigour have often coincided with periods of challenge and testing.
"What matters is holding firmly to the need to communicate the gospel with joy and conviction in our society."
The Queen also said a "preoccupation with our welfare and comfort" were not "at the heart of our faith" but rather "the concepts of service and of sacrifice as shown in the life and teachings of the one who made himself nothing, taking the very form of a servant".
During her address, the Queen said the place of religion had come to be a matter of "lively discussion" in a more "diverse and secular" society.
"It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue and that the well-being and prosperity of the nation depend..........
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
When I saw the headline I thought she'd read the riot act to them but I think the platitudes above are the "warning".
Pathetic response to a “church” replete with sodomites, not only occupying, but welcome in leadership positions.
Marsh,
Real question for you:
How do Roman Catholics and the Vatican view the Church of England?
It appears they considered themselves both Catholic and Reformed.
Just curious. Other Catholics feel free to chime in.
Actually the Church of England has always been more political than based on religion. To Catholics it’s heretical and to Protestants, too Papist in their church ceremonies. It was formed by Henry VIII to enable him to marry Anne Boleyn and it is more of a compromise made by Elizabeth I to balance between the two religions. Her older brother was more radical in his Protestantism than Elizabeth. the porblem that the religious had is that it wasn’t spiritually nurturing enough to feed the need that so many hungered for.
Appreciate the response!
Essentially a watered down church either way you look at it...
So what is Queenie Baby actually saying? That gays should or should not be in church office? I just can’t tell as I read it.
I think the C of E has more in common with the Catholic Church than it has with many of the other reformed churches although the present doctrinal confusion within the C of E makes that statement more tenuous with every passing day. However, I think it's true to say that the Pope has always been the big issue for the C of E, due to the way it all went pear-shaped in the 16th century, whereas other Protestant bones of contention such as the importance of the Blessed Virgin, the sacrificial nature of the Mass and so forth, are less so, although again, I'm generalizing.
The bulk of English Anglicans and Anglicans in the Americas seem to be liberal Protestants completely disconnected from orthodox Christianity. The High Church faction in those countries seems to be closely connected to orthodox Christianity. The Anglican diocese of Sydney seems to be much closer to Calvinism than Catholicism, while Anglicans in Africa and Asia seem to be very close to Catholicism - especially Catholicism as it is lived in those regions.
The Vatican view is that the Anglican Communion possesses the outward form and structure of an orthodox Christian Church, but that it lacks the apostolicity that the Eastern Orthodox churches can claim.
she is just talking and not saying anything...
“So what is Queenie Baby actually saying? That gays should or should not be in church office? I just can’t tell as I read it.”
Each side can read it in support of their own positions and therefore it is an unmitigated moral failure on the part of the Queen.
England is dead.
How do we regard COE? A historical Tudorian aberration that persists to modern day.
Actually Edward VI was younger than Elizabeth (he was the son of Jane Seymour, Henry VIII’s third wife), but took precedence over his two older half-sisters because he was male. If Edward VI had lived five years longer, Mary would have never been queen, and the Bloody Mary drink would presumably be called something else.
Thank you!
Though we may vehemently disagree on various topics, this is still a great forum for all of us to become more educated and I’m appreciated of your thoughtful responses.
TSgt
Oh, I know he was younger, I was just mentioning his policies. As for the drink, I think it would have been something along the lines of:
My Monthly,
A Rag
Time of the Month
Just Gross
PMS
Things of that sort.
A lot of terrific music has come out of the CofE though.
Definately. With each founding of a church, comes great new music.
I think that would depend on the church. Some don´t take to music at all, either for worship or recreation.
The CofE was formed during the realm´s most artistically prolific period, which undoubtedly gave as much impetus to creativity as the sense of ecclesiastical newness and innovation which lasted well into the mid twentieth century. There is a certain monotonal beauty to the current works say, of John Taverner (the latter). But the absence of true genius therein now is very much a function the stagnancy that Anglican worship has fallen to.
“...while Anglicans in Africa and Asia seem to be very close to Catholicism - especially Catholicism as it is lived in those regions.”
I was under the impression (but I could be wrong) that most Anglicans in Africa were closer to evangelicalism than to Catholicism.
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I thought the Queen was just the honorary head and not the official advisor...
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