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To: reaganaut

It is an interesting perspective. I assume that the author belongs to one of the “fundamentalist” Mormon sects. Legally, he seems to be claiming that churches ought not be recognized by the state as legal entities; however, it’s more of a theological claim than a legal one. Church buildings and graveyards must belong to someone or something for property tax purposes, for example. I suppose that individual members could keep title rather than gifting land to an under-the-radar church, but most people in America like the stability of the Congregational/corporate model. Whether those people are theologically correct is not a legal question.


43 posted on 12/02/2010 3:49:40 PM PST by mrreaganaut (See the wild curelom herds at Zion National Park!)
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To: mrreaganaut

“I assume that the author belongs to one of the ‘fundamentalist’ Mormon sects.”

Sheesh! Doesn’t anybody click on the original post anymore?

I’m the writer of the piece under discussion, and aligned with mainstream LDS. You’ll find, however, that I am not in thrall to the Brethren nor their constant bleating for obeisance.

Webheart, I emphasize with your frustration regarding all the italicizing, bolding, and increasing of the font size of my article. Although I understand Greyfox’s motivation for emphasizing certain points (and I appreciate him for reposting it!), those emphases are his, not mine. So Elsie, no need to put my words back into a word processor and straighten them all out again. You’ll find my post in it’s original form quite readable here, complete with a snappy portrait of Jesus as the Corporate Man:

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-corporatism-has-undermined-and.html

Also, note that Greyfox did not post the entire article; in fact, my piece wasn’t called “The Vanishing LDS Church.” That was just a subtitle of one section. The full piece is titled “How Corporatism Has Undermined and Subverted The Church of Jesus Christ.”

In there I have already addressed Mr. Reaganaut’s concerns about how a church can function absent corporation.

The very question is evidence of how thoroughly Americans have come to accept the premise that no business can function without being incorporated. Prior to the 20th century romance for such status, people did just fine as regular businesses, sole proprietors, partnerships, or simply companies.

Many churches today have come to the realization that they have been conned into thinking incorporation was necessary, and there is a rush now to dis-incorporate. You might want to ask those churches how they manage to pay their employees and engage in commerce with suppliers. They are able to do so because they operate as a church, an independent entity that does not seek permission from the State for its existence. They seem to be functioning just fine, as churches always did before America went corporate crazy a hundred years ago.

I would remind Mr. Reaganaut by the way, that churches don’t pay property taxes. At least those not subject to Caesar.

You can’t claim Christ as the head of your church if you have to first petition the State for permission to exist.


44 posted on 01/15/2011 10:57:32 AM PST by Rockwaterman
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