Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

To: steve86; pf707
Read about Nicholas Gruner here - written by: Rick Salbato

Fatima Reconsidered - written by: Rick Salbato

On May 13th 1981 ( the feast of Fatima) the Pope was Shot.

In the hospital his nurse said that Our Lady of Fatima had saved his life. He did not know a lot about Fatima so in the hospital he read every book he could get.

In 1981 the National conference of Catholic Bishops of the US sent a letter to the Holy Father requesting the Consecration

1982 - May 13th at Fatima - Consecrated world to IHM (Lucia said it was not correctly done)

So the Holy Father Sent his Secretary of State to Fatima and Lucia and Maccias Cohair sat with him for six hours explaining exactly how the consecration had to be done.

And on March 25, 1984 Pope John Paul and the bishops throughout the world consecrated Russia and the world to the IHM. Even Russian Orthodox Bishops entered in. A few years later Lucia said, Our Lady has accepted the 1984 consecration and She will keep Her promise."

This was exactly 100 years after the Vision of Pope Leo XIII. When Satan was granted 100 years to try and destroy God’s Church.

What happened after the Consecration on March 25th

Well, two months later, on the Feast of Fatima, May 13, an explosion in Sever-o-mor-ski destroyed 80% of Russia’s missals making them no longer a superpower. America did not know the extent of this explosion.

Again there was another strange happening on Dec 13. An explosion in Siberia destroyed Russia’s largest ammunition base

On Dec 19 Marshal Ustinov, the Minister of Defense died or was killed

Three days later Marshal Sodolov, the 2ed Minister of Defense died

All in 9 months

In March of 1985 (one Year after consecration) President Chernenko died and Mikhial Gorbachev was made President. He was the First Baptized Christian President although still a communist. He instituted glassnoss and perestroika (freedom of the press and freedom of religion) This was the downfall of communism. 15 republics were freed from communism, and the Warsaw pact ended

In 1989 Lucia said publicly that the Consecration was completed and that "God will keep His Word". That year on Nov 9th the Berlin Wall came down and Gorbachev meet Pope at the Vatican and promised religious freedom

The following year on the Feast of Fatima, May 13th, freedom of religion was made the law of Russia. And on the feast of the miracle of Fatima, Oct 13, Gorbachev received the Nobel Peace Prize

Two months later Gorbachev meet Pope in Vatican for 2ed time. In this meeting the Pope told him that he knew it was he that ordered the hit on the Pope. Gorbachev asked his forgiveness. (It is this story that Lucia was asked to keep silent about and nothing else.)

In 1991 (March 15) diplomatic relations with the Vatican and Russia were opened and so were Latin-rite churches for the first time.

May 1, 1991 was the 100 anniversary of Rerum Novarum, the encyclical "On the Condition of Human Labor by Pope Leo XII, and the Feast of St. Joseph, the Worker, and the end of May Day as a communist holiday.

On May 13, 1991 Pope John Paul II went to Fatima to thank Our Lady for all the countries that were freed, for saving his life, and for the end of the communist threat to the world.

But on Aug 19, 1991 the communists attempted to overthrow Gorbachev. They picked the wrong day for it was the 74th anniversary of the Aug appearance at Fatima. On Aug 22 the attempt failed and the communists were defeated. This was the feast of the Queenship of Mary.

Two months later, on Oct 13 (another feast of Fatima) the first pilgrims of Russia went to Fatima. It was Televised in 150 stations in Russia and 350 Radio stations in Russia, and again on Nov 7th it was televised again.

Dec 8th was the start of the Commonwealth of republics, The end of the USSR

12 days later Yeltsin met with the Pope in Rome

And 13 days after that (on Dec 25th, 1991) the Communist Flag came down for last time over Russia

Gorbachev resigned and sent a letter to Pope John Paul II

15 republics were freed from communism.

On Dec 30th, 1991 Lucia wrote that the world will recognize that the defeat of Communism was by Mary

In 1992 another attempt was made to overthrow the government and Yelson stood against the entire communist army and no one died.

On March 14, 1992 Pravda ended

Then on Christmas day, 1992 Communism was declared illegal in Russia

By 1996, Starting with People Power and Rosary in the Philippines, 87 dictatorships fell throughout the world.

From March 25, 1884 until March 25, 1984 is exactly 100 years. In 1884 Pope Saint Leo XII saw Christ give Satan power for 100 years. In 1984 Pope John Paul II Consecrated Russia and the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Communism fell, 87 other dictators fell.

What more do you want?
26 posted on 12/01/2010 8:37:39 PM PST by JPII Be Not Afraid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies ]

To: JPII Be Not Afraid; Salvation
1980: Pope JPII stated at Fulda Germany that it is no longer possible to avert the chastisement:
"We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ … With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother”
-The text released by the Vatican in June 2000 match's the above portion of the Pope's comments.

Dated Dec 8/1983, the Pope sends out a letter to the Bishops inviting them to join in the “Acts of Entrustment of the World to the Blessed Virgin Mary” for the following year. No Mention of Russia anywhere in the letter or Act. (pg. 125 of the Youngest Prophet, Christopher Rengers, 1986)

After the fall of communism....the conversion of Russia and time for God's peace to arrive?!?...:

From 1991 to 1995: Most horrific wars in Europe in Yugoslavia. The Yugoslavia wars were “often described as Europe's deadliest conflicts since World War II...the first conflicts since World War II to be formally judged genocidal in character.”(wikipedia quote)

1994: The apocalypse comes to Africa in Rwanda. Rivers of blood, be-headings, indiscriminate massacre of the unimaginable 800,000 dead in 100 days. / 1998-2003: “Africa's World War” becomes the deadliest conflict in the world since world war II. Three million dead. ( ).

No sign of God's peace to “be granted to the world” in the 90’s.

In January 1995: cloaking his warning in “Never again” declarations Pope JPII predicted that “tomorrow we must cry over other modern day Auschwitzes death camps” (he was not predicting the peace that would follow Russia's conversion but instead death camps for the future of mankind!) See link of image of newspaper clipping:

1995/1996: During a time of Yugoslavia wars in Europe and a time of the Pope expecting a future fulfillment of the 3rd Secret the Vatican made plans for Priests to gather at Fatima the day after Russia's elections. (See page 221 of Crossing the Threshold of Hope for his expectations in 1995 that the Fatima prophecies “now...seems close to their fulfillment”)

Date of Russian elections: June 16/1996
Start date of the Gathering of Priests organized by the Vatican for Fatima Portugal: June 17/1996

the evidence of this:
“VATICAN CITY, JUN 18, 1996 (VIS) - The 1st International Meeting for Priests, organized by the Congregation for the Clergy in preparation for the Holy Year 2000, opened yesterday afternoon in Fatima, Portugal, with the reading of a message sent by the Holy Father. The Pope underlines the importance of this event to give impulse to the new evangelization, and invites priests to renew their personal consecration to the Heart of Jesus and to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. As a sign of his closeness, John Paul II sent a rosary to each priest. Also read at the opening was a telegram sent by Sr. Lucia, the only survivor of the three little shepherds of Fatima to whom the Blessed Virgin appeared.”
“...The archbishop also said that beginning this year there would be meetings of the world's priests in preparation for the Jubilee 2000. In 1996 one will be held in Fatima June 17-21”

There are two interpretations of this gathering of priests in Fatima for the day after the Russian elections.

Interpretation one: It was a mere coincidence! But to suggest that the Vatican didn't pay attention to events in Russia when 1) the stark evidence I posted already in the OP is crystal clear (more so to the Pope) about the connection of Russia's errors to the Fatima Secrets. 2)Europe was rocked by the Yugoslavia wars which could have drawn Russia/NATO into a world war at any moment and 3) the fatima prophecies seemed “close to fulfillment” to the Pope in 1995;.....makes it all very ludicrous in my opinion, to believe the Vatican didn't know they were scheduling the Fatima event the day after the Russian elections.

Interpretation two: Fervor for the Third Secret had the Pope in it's clutches in 1994/1995/1996 with expectations months before the elections that Russia would be taken over by someone capable of igniting the great persecution(Someone Hitler like.) The Vatican therefore preplanned in advance by months, to have the priests of the world gathered at Fatima Portugal the day after the Russian elections. The purpose was simple: In a surreal moment immediately after the Communist or Russian Hitler won the June 16th elections, the Pope would go straight to Fatima where the gathering of priests was already prepared in place to then reveal the full text of the Third Secret of Fatima to the World. It would have been an epic start if the timing of the Russian Hitler was indeed fated for that election.

2000: Despite not consecrating Russia and not publishing the third secret beforehand, the Vatican is confounded by the inexplicable delay of the Secret’s breakout. Weary and sick of the waiting endured through the 1990’s they decide suddenly to forsake the "wait for the fulfillment" by designating the prophecies materialization to a date nineteen years earlier. It's easier on the flock that way.

1990-2010: still no clear sign of the world peace mentioned in the Fatima and La Salette prophecies.

2008-????: various signs begin to emerge. (No need to burden this thread or forum with THAT topic as it places the believing observer on an unpleasant roller coaster...if you know what I mean.) : (

The events: rise of Lenin and communism, night of light in 1938, consecration of the world, fall of communism, would serve as the shadows of starker things to come.

God confounded the Jews by having split the fulfillment of the prophecy of the coming of the Christ and his prophet Elijah into two separate events. With the Jews, it's difficult for them to accept the first coming of the two major stages of fulfillment. With Fatima, a difficulty lies in accepting the coming of the the second more critical period of fulfillment.

BOTTOM LINE: Lucia did not give reason to the Pope between 1984 and late 1990’s to believe the 1984 Consecration of the World prevented a future disaster for the church and the world.

31 posted on 12/02/2010 8:02:36 PM PST by pf707
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson