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To: SandyInSeattle
Please define for those of us who don’t understand you what you mean by “dispensationalist heresy”.

This system was first introduced in the Nineteenth Century by John Darby. It teaches that Jesus did not really come yet as Christ for the Jews, but only as a suffering Messiah for the Gentiles. Traditional Christianity refers to Jesus as Christ because it teaches that He came as true Messiah/Christ for all and that there are no more distinctions between Jew and Gentile.

38 posted on 12/01/2010 4:34:05 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mas cerveza por favor

I don’t think one need assume they are dabbling in dispensationalism in order to recognize that they were wrong to be antisemitic. It’s not an atonement, it’s an apology. Long overdue, seems to me.


40 posted on 12/01/2010 4:57:55 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

We have repeatedly documented that

that assertion is thoroughly false.

Darby was a Johnny Come Lately

to the Biblical truths about Israel, the END TIMES and dispensations.

Continue to proffer falsehoods about such truths at your own risk.


59 posted on 12/02/2010 6:23:32 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor; GiovannaNicoletta

Once AGAIN

we’ll document the falseness of your UnBiblical, Unhistorically accurate assertions:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2390078/posts


63 posted on 12/02/2010 6:53:00 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
John Darby may have been one but replacement theology went much farther back than that, ala Crusades, Augustine and currently thousands of churches all over the world which originated from heretical teachings way way back in time. I don't understand yor preoccupation on just John Darby, he didn't invent it and was not the first:

Simple history of Replacement Theology 101

As for dispensationalism well that goes farther back that John Darby also:

maybe you were thinking Justin martyr?

or

Darby but again he was not the first, he just had his own little twist, Darby 101

So, I guess, like others here I do not understand what the heck you are getting at regarding the Amish. People have believed in replacement theology and killed millions of other Christians including millions of Jews in justification they are now the one true children of God, and Israel is no longer the apple of God's eye, but this is easily debunked using scripture. As for dispensationalism, people, pastors and priests and common men and women have been believing in this since the first century AD, or for non believing folks C.E.

97 posted on 12/02/2010 10:32:00 AM PST by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Wow, that has got to be the most ill represented position I’ve ever seen on this subject.


103 posted on 12/02/2010 11:07:16 AM PST by porter_knorr (John Adams would be arrested for his thoughts on tyrants today!)
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