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What really happened to exorcist Euteneuer?
RenewAmerica ^ | 12-2-10 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 12/02/2010 11:59:19 AM PST by mlizzy

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To: mlizzy

I mean that the author is taking Father Euteneuer’s decision not to discuss his circumstances publicly as a personal affront to his perceived status, like a teenage girl who missed a hot bit of gossip.

Does anyone have evidence that Father E. has been kidnapped by evil forces and is being restrained, incommunicado, against his will? If so, such person should contact the police. Kidnapping and forcible restraint are illegal. In all other possible circumstances, whether he is being treated justly or unjustly, he has chosen to remain silent or to communicate only with people who are keeping his confidence.


51 posted on 12/02/2010 4:36:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (We know that terrorists are Moslems. I repeat, we know that terrorists are Moslems.)
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To: Zetman
Thank you and here's the hot link of the Spirit Daily article you posted:

TUMULT ERUPTS AS OMAHA BISHOP SHUTS DOWN ORDER AND EX-HEAD ALLEGES 'DRASTIC ACTION'
52 posted on 12/02/2010 4:42:17 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Great article.

The Hostile Spiritual Takeover of Our Nation

May 22nd, 2010 by Fr. Thomas Euteneuer

Anyone who has watched national politics closely in the past year and a half has seen a panoply of aggressive political moves that are reported about in hostile terms. There are government “takeovers” of huge industries, public officials “moving against” businesses and individuals, court decisions “striking down” statutes and executive initiatives “attacking” fundamentally sane institutions and plans. Even in times of war, I don’t think we have ever had such violent social and political maneuvering in our public life. The worst aspect of it is that all the rapaciousness is directed inward. If we were laying waste the enemies of the innocent citizens of our society in the same way we are consuming our own healthy institutions, how different our public life would be! The current hostile initiatives are nothing of the sort, however. They are essentially demonic takeovers of sacred institutions by the pagans who hold the reins of power...

...But what did we expect, really? Our nation elected unabashedly pagan representatives who are possessed of a tapestry of unclean ideologies who have an almost religious fervor in advancing their control over greater sectors of our common life and economy. The sad part is that these people who govern us are simply being true to their convictions: before the election, they were not abashed in telling us how radical they are, and now we are reaping the fruits of the demonic agenda of the death and destruction that they have brought with them.

I would despair of this situation had I not met so many decent and God-fearing Americans who do not agree with the mainstreaming of paganism into our culture. I have met the virtuous side of America, and it is to these that I write these words of encouragement: be strong! We must be true to the core Christian principles that made this nation great! Be not afraid of the severe conflicts with the pagan world that we will have to endure in the very near future. We are not alone in this battle. There are many more moral and decent Americans than we realize. It’s just that the good ones are busy about raising families and keeping the basic fabric of our society intact. They are not the hedonists and manipulators that strive obsessively to control public discourse and institutions. They are there in the background and form the true foundation of our society...

53 posted on 12/02/2010 4:56:39 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: mlizzy; Thurifer the Censer
Wow! This guy is awesome!

I never that knew a Catholic priest could talk like that!

We Don't Believe You, Mr. President [Fr. Euteneuer "on fire"]

Human Life International | 6-4-10 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

Dear President Obama,

Every citizen with a modicum of insight into public affairs would say that America is now at a crossroads of decision about what kind of future we want for our nation-and, by extension, for the rest of the world. Whether we like it or not, you are the one who is designated by a vote of the electorate to lead us in that decision-making process. You have asked for the job, and you have proposed yourself as being competent for it. History will judge your Administration on its own merits when your term is complete, but we, the citizens of this country, must judge it for what we see happening before our very eyes. Quite frankly, the picture isn't pretty, and you haven't earned our respect as a leader.

The reason for this, Mr. President, is that we can't believe what you say, and frankly, what you do is utterly unbelievable at times.

The recent Gulf Coast oil spill disaster is indicative of your utter carelessness with the onerous burden of governance. Not only did you dis the families of the 11 workers killed in the disaster, but you also attended fundraisers in CA, a trip to the golf course and several state parties in the White House during the whole time the Governor of Louisiana has been screaming frantically for your attention. How can you expect us to believe that you were actually "in charge" of handling the disaster? In six weeks we have seen hardly a shred of evidence to convince us of that. A leader who says he is in charge of something and then conducts a systematic campaign of blaming, dodging, obfuscating, ignoring and even now prosecuting the others involved - instead of fixing the problem - will hardly go down in the record books as the savior he proposed himself to be when he was elected. You are the Commander-in-Chief who has gone AWOL on a truly national crisis.

On top of all that, you basically blew off a sacred national holiday, Memorial Day, for the sake of a vacation to gangsterland. That slap in the face to our military men and women was not lost on anyone, nor was the narcissistic disregard for American history or anything other than what fits your extreme political agenda. These are appalling traits for the one who holds the highest political office in our land, and only a fawning and dishonest media allows you to get away with this negligence in office.

Speaking of which, what are we to make of your pathetic excuse for the crime of attempting to bribe Congressman Sestak to bow out of the Senate race against Arlen Specter? Do you really think Americans believe the utterly implausible story about offering him a "non-paying" position on some presidential panel? Your Administration's explanation, issued on the afternoon of a holiday weekend, rings hollow, and everyone knows it. "Hollow" is an adequate word to describe your Administration, your political theatre and your rhetoric. Even some of your staunchest ideological supporters admit that it is getting increasingly hard to believe that you mean anything you say.

In the midst of all this domestic incompetence and dishonesty, we have seen no realistic response to North Korean, Iranian or Turkish aggression on the world scene. Foreign politicians know you are a leftist lightweight, and so we can expect more of the same from the rogue nations of the world, further destabilizing the security of our nation and the world. We have, however, seen you and your inept band of political marauders pander to foreign dictators and exploit the Mexican President to abuse us and our national deliberations on serious issues. We have seen your ideological hacks take over whole industries, plunder the private sector, abuse the good will of states and consume sound American institutions as if they were your enemies and with a ferocity that would befit only those who we would call our true national enemies.

Like the Gulf oil spill, your Administration is out of control, and every day is another step closer to disaster. As the oil continues to pollute, kill and damage the external beauty and economy of a whole region, you and your team are doing the same with the trust of the people who built this great country.

We deserve better, Mr. President, and it's time you start doing your job.

Sincerely,
Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer
President, Human Life International

54 posted on 12/02/2010 5:12:30 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Yes, he truly is. Did you see this (it happened a few years ago) where he talks with Hannity regarding his Cafeteria Catholicism? Hannity's Gospel
55 posted on 12/02/2010 5:21:07 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
Are you suggesting the possibility that the president is involved somehow in Fr. Euteneuer's dismissal and book halting?
Not necessarily, it could be purely secular politics, someone in the hierarchy deciding that this was entirely too partisan a take on things and teach him that Democrats have friends as well ("I'll get you and your little book too!*cackle,cackle*").

Frankly though, if it wasn't for Mr. Abbot's explicit denial I would say that this has the "smoke of Satan" written all over it.

56 posted on 12/02/2010 5:26:30 PM PST by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: mlizzy

I clicked on the link and watched as much of the video as I could stand to. I could not stand to listen to Sean Hannity disrespecting (trying to cut off and talking over) that Catholic priest the way he did.

I do not care what Sean Hannity’s religious background is - you cannot have the love of God in you and be able to treat a Catholic Priest like that.

I should mention that I was raised a Catholic by my Mother - who is still at 81 a devout Catholic - But that I am not one now.

It is a long story that I think it is best I not go into here.

However, I am interested in other people’s life views and experiences - and I see in Father Tom Euteneuer a brave man who is not afraid to speak the truth.

I hope that Father Euteneuer is alright.

May the Peace of the Lord be with you.


57 posted on 12/02/2010 6:45:39 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: Pyro7480

Distressing. Prayers up for Father E.


58 posted on 12/02/2010 7:21:54 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

FYI, Hannity is a devout Cafeteria Catholic.


59 posted on 12/02/2010 7:52:39 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: mlizzy

“Are you suggesting the possibility that the president is involved somehow in Fr. Euteneuer’s dismissal and book halting?”

Obama? The Chicago gangster, the muslim, the pal of Ayers, the devotee of Rev. Wright, the narcissist, the robber of the American people, the advocate of late-term abortion, the man who has relatives in Kenya that sacrifice chickens to the gods? I have no problem at all believing it. It would take but a few calls from the White House to the corrupt Catholic Hierarchy in this country.


60 posted on 12/02/2010 7:55:17 PM PST by baa39
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To: mlizzy

This all nothing but pointless speculation. If Matt Abbott were serving in his profession as an authentic Catholic, he would direct his articles (all of them!) to living and defending his faith. Instead, he has riled up the masses, and to what end?
Father Euteneuer made it clear he was taking time off. Why is that wrong? Why is that suspicious?

The Diocese of Palm Beach is not known for their prompt replies to any issue - let alone responding to some arrogant journalist who thinks he rates above all others. Please Matt, get a grip.

HLI made it clear they were no longer publishing the book because they wanted to focus solely on their pro-life mission. Can they be wronged for this? Why is this a conspiracy? Father Euteneuer was out talking about the book at events, book signings etc. Who at HLI would continue to do that?

Please, get out your Catechisms and read:

2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278 He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another’s faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor’s thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.280
2479 Detraction and calumny destroy the reputation and honor of one’s neighbor. Honor is the social witness given to human dignity, and everyone enjoys a natural right to the honor of his name and reputation and to respect. Thus, detraction and calumny offend against the virtues of justice and charity

And when you’re done, someone send it to Matt Abbott.


61 posted on 12/02/2010 8:02:41 PM PST by Shannon503
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To: Shannon503

Whew, and you call someone else arrogant?

I believe you’re a bit naive.

This episode reminds me of Fr. Spitzer’s “resignation” (forced secretly) last year as Pres of Gonzaga. But Spitzer is out and about, working in his foundations, going to events, freely doing his thing in other venues. Euteneuer has, as Matt points out, essentially disappeared and if you know him, this is not a guy to disappear.


62 posted on 12/02/2010 8:10:41 PM PST by baa39
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To: Shannon503
I do not know how Matt's post contradicts the Catholic Catechism. If one makes up ugly stuff about Fr. Euteneuer, that's one thing, but if people are truly concerned, that's quite another. The "disappearance" of Fr. Euteneuer *is* suspicious. You are seeing it one way; his fans are seeing it in quite another. Matt Abbott is a (concerned) fan.

Prayers for Fr. Euteneuer.
63 posted on 12/02/2010 8:22:22 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Shannon503

Your quote beginning “Every good Christian should be...” is #22 from the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Loyola.

:-)

Thanks for offering it.


64 posted on 12/02/2010 8:43:12 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: baa39
It would take but a few calls from the White House to the corrupt Catholic Hierarchy in this country.
Well, if you're right, that would mean a gear shifting into something quite intense, and I would think some of Father's strong words against the Obama administration's workings would soon then be deleted off the Net.

Randall Terry commented recently, that there are very few people in the U.S. today that "name names," and two of the heavyweights in that category are Fr. Euteneuer and Michael Voris.

Please include them in your prayers.


65 posted on 12/02/2010 9:04:26 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: markomalley
FYI, Hannity is a devout Cafeteria Catholic.
I like the addition of "devout."
66 posted on 12/02/2010 9:09:24 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
That's a great link you left on the Euteneuer interview by Deal Hudson (I wonder as well how long it has been since he spoke with Fr. E.):
By the end of my interview with Father Euteneuer, I realized my initial question about being frightened of demons had betrayed my misunderstanding of the limits of demonic power. Exorcism and the Church Militant is a book that should provide guidance to many for years to come, especially for parents who need a reminder that the occult is not innocent entertainment. --Deal Hudson

67 posted on 12/02/2010 9:50:31 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

he needs prayers, and unless he comes out and brags about a romantic problem to the press, or he gets charged with stealing, then I would say it’s not really your business.

If he was involved in exorcisms, then it means he has made enemies, so he probably needs prayers...the devil will work hard to get him to “Fall” into sin, and then despair...


68 posted on 12/02/2010 10:40:02 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: mlizzy

It strikes me as very interesting how much time and energy is spent speculating on a priest - would that we all had such energy and time to devote to working on our own lives and souls.

And by the way, a priest does not need fans, Father does not cater to fans -and never has - he is a priest, not a movie star - he works to save souls.


69 posted on 12/03/2010 5:25:44 AM PST by Shannon503
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To: Shannon503
It strikes me as very interesting how much time and energy is spent speculating on a priest - would that we all had such energy and time to devote to working on our own lives and souls. And by the way, a priest does not need fans, Father does not cater to fans -and never has - he is a priest, not a movie star - he works to save souls.
My B-I-L is a priest, and I refer to myself as being one of his fans. I don't equate it with rock stardom. I equate it with sainthood. Hang around and care about the saints or saints-in-the-making, and one might find themselves on the road to sainthood themselves one day. We say a Rosary for Fr. Euteneuer (and all priests!) every day; in fact multiple Rosaries are offered up for him through our Web site. Keep in mind, Fr. Euteneuer is the engine that pulls many cars. Without him, the train stands still.
70 posted on 12/03/2010 5:42:54 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: LadyDoc

Father Euteneuer, as a Roman Catholic priest and exorcist and writer, works for us (in his case at double-time). So it’s our business, as part of his flock, to wonder how he is doing. And I agree with you, he needs prayers.


71 posted on 12/03/2010 5:49:34 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: LadyDoc

Father Euteneuer, as a Roman Catholic priest and exorcist and writer, works for us (in his case at double-time). So it’s our business, as part of his flock, to wonder how he is doing. And I agree with you, he needs prayers.


72 posted on 12/03/2010 5:49:34 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
Bttt.

5.56mm

73 posted on 12/03/2010 6:03:20 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: mlizzy

You are quite wrong, it is not your business to wonder - most especially when it leads to speculation and guessing games.

Pray? Yes, of course. But you can do that without speculation.

Does it not occur to you that if he wanted you to know anymore than you already do (that he is on sabbatical) that he would issue a statement?

He wanted rest, that includes peace, and quiet. Give it to him.


74 posted on 12/03/2010 6:32:20 AM PST by Shannon503
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To: Shannon503
You are quite wrong, it is not your business to wonder - most especially when it leads to speculation and guessing games.
Please don't tell me what's my business and what's not my business. I wonder about my kids all the time, how they are, etc. [especially when they go missing]. I try to stay away from speculating, and I haven't said anything cruel in that regard. Fr. Euteneuer doesn't care that people care about him. That's what he's all about.

Lighten up!
75 posted on 12/03/2010 6:41:43 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

Well there’s the difference. Your children are your responsibility, you ought to monitor their whereabouts.

Father is not your responsibility, he is an adult, and I repeat, if he wanted you or anyone to know something, he would issue a statement.

Obviously, that is not the case, so let the man be.


76 posted on 12/03/2010 8:30:22 AM PST by Shannon503
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To: Zetman
From reading the book “The Rite”, I also know that priests who are exorcists are considered to be oddballs by a large percentage of their fellow priests - who consider themselves to be too enlightened and sophisticated to believe in such outdated rituals. Much of the Catholic Church has been overrun by Liberals, and they don't think too kindly of Conservative, Orthodox priests, much less exorcists. Hence, if Father Euteneur had been getting more and more into exorcism, perhaps this fact got him into some hot water with someone.

There are lots of FR threads theorizing about the reasons behind Fr. Euteneuer's disappearance, but IMO everyone should start with this one:

"It is impossible to speak of a “Catholic culture” in America any longer. A whole segment of the populace who call themselves “Catholics” do not feel bound by any standard of Catholic orthodoxy or sanity. In fact, it is impossible even to speak of a Catholic culture in most parishes! At a recent “ministry faire” of a large Catholic parish in south Florida, the Respect Life ministry of the parish displayed its pro-life materials next to the table of the “social justice” committee of the same parish. Any commonality between the two ministries was simply in the space they shared. Their worldviews could not have been further apart, but they both call themselves Catholic....

....How can these two groups sit side-by-side in the same pews and display their ministries in the same space at the same Catholic parish? Simply because this contradiction has been tolerated for years by those in charge of our Church. In this election season neither of these two groups received any guidance about voting according to Catholic principles because, as per usual, there was silence from the pulpit on the issue. The absolute failure of our church leaders to define for us what membership in the Church means - and then to enforce it - has led to the degradation of Catholic culture and the loss of meaning for things that are sacred. When Christ and Belial are considered equal partners in the sanctuary, then nothing in the sanctuary means anything any more and no meaningful standard exists to distinguish a true Catholic from a false Catholic."
-- Fr. Thomas Euteneuer, from the thread Catholic Culture and the Election of Barack Obama (Dec 2, 2008)


77 posted on 12/03/2010 8:42:39 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: Shannon503

If Matt Abbott (or anyone else of character) puts up another article on Euteneuer, and I see it, I’ll put it on Free Republic, because many people care about Fr. Euteneuer. I’ve prayed for him (and suffered for him) as long as I can remember. He IS like one of my kids.


78 posted on 12/03/2010 8:44:26 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Alex Murphy
Yes, he's a very strong man Alex, and doesn't hold back with his words. That's why many are concerned about him. It would be the same if Fr. Corapi all of a sudden disappeared. Or Joe Scheidler (whose home was recently vandalized).

It would be helpful if someone would come out with some news as to Fr. Euteneuer's safety, health, etc.
79 posted on 12/03/2010 8:54:41 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
It would be the same if Fr. Corapi all of a sudden disappeared. Or Joe Scheidler (whose home was recently vandalized).

I can see that. I've met Joe, who IMO is a great American and hero to many. But Joe's never expressed AFAIK the kind of condemnation of superiors that Fr. Euteneuer has.

80 posted on 12/03/2010 9:13:43 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: mlizzy

So you think that he lied in order to “be kind”?

That’s what I don’t get. Father E. is a great Catholic etc., but he lies in order to “be nice”.

How does that fit with his persona?

Maybe we should just take him at his word and see.

-Theo


81 posted on 12/03/2010 9:24:51 AM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo

Did I use the word lie? A priest needs to be obedient (kind, generous, etc.). That means not to spout off as to the reasons he was being relieved of his duties. He wasn’t lying.


82 posted on 12/03/2010 9:45:38 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Just posted on Human Life International's Facebook page:

Gabriel Espinosa Patricia Bainbridge, chairwoman of the HLI board of directors, why are you hiding??? What is the reason for your action against Fr. Euteneuer's book, Exorcism and the Church Militant? What are you afraid of? What truths does the book disclosed which the corrupt powers; the wolves in sheeps clothing, behind the institutional church are afraid of???? You are convening a Board of Directors meeting next week so I hear. I expect you to issue a truthful statement of substance regarding this disturbing issue and not some whitewash damage control. --Link.
83 posted on 12/03/2010 10:10:50 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy; mattcabbott

Matt, you might find comment #83 of some interest ...


84 posted on 12/03/2010 10:25:32 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Alex Murphy

Joe IS a great guy. That’s nice you got the chance to meet him. I’ve photographed him before at different marches, but we never really formally met. And you know, he was much feistier in his youth, but now, it’s true, he’s not like Fr. Euteneuer with condemnation of superiors. Still, if he disappeared, I’d be concerned.


85 posted on 12/03/2010 10:41:13 AM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy; livius; Desdemona
Thank you for pursuing this,I miss Fr. Euteneuer and have wondered what happened to him. Certainly he is one of the finest,most clear speaking,knowledgeable,honest and effective spokespersons in this country and the absence of his voice on the national scene is detrimental to those seeking Truth,and consequently to the entire nation.

I would have expected that if he were in a crisis of faith or involved in something unpleasant,he would have apologized and taken his licks,so to speak.

If it wasn't his choice then that would indicate that he was muzzled for something he said,or some group he offended,and if that is the case then those of us who are in this battle of good vs. evil need to know who muzzled him and why. I believe it was Sun-Tse in the "Art of War",who said that when engaging in warfare it was of utmost importance to know your enemy. I'm probably a little off on the spelling but it's close. In any case as the battle heats up it is important we do know what's going on and who to be wary of,as well as why.

Thanks again.

86 posted on 12/03/2010 1:31:48 PM PST by saradippity
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To: mlizzy; urtax$@work

Since you two have Father Euteneuer’s book, may I ask what is in the book that could be so dangerous to be let out?

Thank you for any reply you care to give.


87 posted on 12/03/2010 1:42:56 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: saradippity
Excellent commentary. You've said what I've wanted to express, but couldn't put down on paper.

I'm leaning towards (and, of course, I could be wrong) that HLI might have gotten a bee in their bonnet regarding Father's immense popularity. Not only was he handling his duties as a pro-life warrior for the organization, but he was writing much-welcomed scathing letters to and about our dark administration, in addition to penning outstanding books to help save this nation's free fall into hell. Can anyone spell J-e-a-l-o-u-s-y?

On the other hand, though, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Oftentimes the greatest heroes/saints of this world have been afflicted with unjust punishments/scourges which humbles them completely, and allows them to eventually come back even stronger ...

If that's the case, fasten your seat belts everyone, and grab your beads.

Pray the Rosary for Father Tom.
88 posted on 12/03/2010 4:16:13 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
I have not finished the book yet. It is a question and answer style format. Here are three of the questions:

If the body is God's temple, how can a demon and the Holy Spirit co-exist in the same body?

How much power does the devil have over us in normal circumstances?

Can a demon kill someone or make him commit suicide?


He answers over 200 questions of this nature. I don't know Church teaching on any of this, so it would be impossible for me to answer whether he has his facts correct or not, but this is what HLI told me when I questioned them about Euteneuer:
Hello, Jeanette. Fr. Euteneuer resigned from HLI after being recalled by his bishop. As he explained in his final column, his resignation followed an period of discernment between him and his bishop. As far as why the book was "pulled", one point of clarification: we did not "pull" or recall any copies of the book, despite rumors to the contrary. We sold out of the book and decided not to reprint it, as we are a pro-life missionary apostolate, and not experts on, or promoters of, exorcism.
Interesting how they say they are a pro-life missionary apostolate, and can't see the need to promote exorcism. Where exactly does abortion come from? Do they think it is heaven-sent? Anyway, that's what they said.
89 posted on 12/03/2010 4:29:25 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

Bump


90 posted on 12/03/2010 4:39:33 PM PST by NewCenturions
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To: saradippity

I agree, he would probably have been upfront about any crisis or personal conflict.

I don’t know much about Palm Beach under its current bishop but many of the Florida dioceses are a little shaky. This is changing (but not fast enough) and in addition, the bureaucracy never changes. So possibly somebody in Palm Beach got a chance to attack him.

In any case, I will say that from the little I know of exorcists (mostly the late Fr. Karl Patzelt, supposedly the model for the priest in The Exorcist), they are under serious attack by the Enemy and I honestly don’t know how they survive.


91 posted on 12/03/2010 7:30:30 PM PST by livius
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To: mlizzy

Oh please...he’s like one of your kids???

Get a grip.


92 posted on 12/03/2010 7:55:56 PM PST by Shannon503
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To: mlizzy

This is as clear as it gets! Father was the only one in the organization able to speak about exorcism, OBVIOUSLY!

HLI did the right thing in this. How are they going to promote a book by an author who is no longer available to them?

Suggestion: Those looking for drama can tune in any afternoon between oh 12 noon and 3 and catch a soap opera. That ought to fill your needs!


93 posted on 12/03/2010 7:56:02 PM PST by Shannon503
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To: Shannon503

I pretty much think of all priests that way. I pray for them like they are my own. Go get a grip your ownself.


94 posted on 12/03/2010 8:51:15 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Shannon503

I have no idea why you are so hostile towards those who care about Fr. Euteneuer. Are you an employee of HLI?


95 posted on 12/03/2010 8:54:20 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

Your problem is just that - they are not your own. If you care for him so much, leave him alone.

He is entitled to his privacy - let him have it.

If he wanted you, or anyone to know anything, he’d be announcing it.


96 posted on 12/04/2010 4:04:06 PM PST by Shannon503
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To: mlizzy

Call it an aversion to people who have no respect for the privacy of priests!

I have worked extensively in parishes and witnessed firsthand the relentless pursuit of priests/religious. I find it absurd and disrespectful.

And no, I don’t work for HLI!


97 posted on 12/04/2010 4:04:11 PM PST by Shannon503
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To: Shannon503

Priests should be on hand at all times, all hours of the day. My MIL said initially when her son became a priest, “Oh, they’re working Fr. Bill so hard. He never gets any freedom.” Well, that’s what being a priest is all about. They have no private lives anymore. Their lives are given to Jesus to do as He sees fit. And you’re not altogether correct about Fr. not wanting people to know what’s going on. He remains quiet, I imagine (although I’m not positive), because he is being obedient. At least that’s what a friend of mine told me yesterday who knows Fr. Tom quite well.


98 posted on 12/04/2010 4:25:40 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
When Father gets back (from sabbatical), I hope he starts a blog, so we can all keep track of him and read his inspiring words.

99 posted on 12/04/2010 6:54:53 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
Please pray for Fr. Euteneuer.
100 posted on 12/04/2010 7:14:42 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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