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What really happened to exorcist Euteneuer?
RenewAmerica ^ | 12-2-10 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 12/02/2010 11:59:19 AM PST by mlizzy

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To: Tax-chick
The author seems to have gotten a little above himself. No, more than a little.
What do you mean by that tax-chick? The author spoke with Euteneuer fairly frequently, and so many people are now very concerned about him.
41 posted on 12/02/2010 3:42:41 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: BlackVeil

Cutie freely chose to violate his vows, reject the Sacrament of Penance, leave the Church and become a protestant. He could have repented, accepted responsibility for what he did, expiated his sins and stayed but he allowed his libido to do his thinking.

42 posted on 12/02/2010 3:43:47 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Yes, I remember that post. He makes himself clear. He also wrote about Obama here, and again, did not hold back. Are you suggesting the possibility that the president is involved somehow in Fr. Euteneuer's dismissal and book halting?
43 posted on 12/02/2010 3:52:48 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy

By the way, if anyone wants a copy of Fr. Euteneuer’s book, I have a few new paperbacks left. FReepmail me, if so. I can ship out the book anywhere in the US for $30.

44 posted on 12/02/2010 3:56:01 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: fatima
When the priests are on R&R, do their books mysteriously disappear from Amazon and every other book store that had previously sold them?

Your thoughts are positive, but don't add up. Fr. Euteneuer had lots on his plate when before he left HLI, and he was enthused about getting things done.
45 posted on 12/02/2010 3:59:06 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
I have been trying to look into this too, via Google and Free Republic. Not much info out there. However, I did find an interesting comment left by someone at the bottom of an article. He states that Father Euteneur was recalled to his Diocese “after a reported controversy”, but no details are given.

Interestingly, the commenter mentioned above also spoke of some sort religious order in the Diocese of Omaha called “The Intercessors of the Lamb”. This order, or group, or whatever, specialized in Deliverance Ministry (praying for - and with - people with demonic problems who don't require a full exorcism), and they were also into the Catholic Charismatic movement.

This group had been around the Diocese for many years. They were at the point where they were requesting that their Bishop grant them full recognition status (or whatever it is called) within their Diocese. They had apparently been on good terms with their previous Bishop(s). However, it seems there was a relatively new Bishop, who had issues with the group (for whatever reason - I do not know if they were valid reasons or not). Hence, rather than “regularizing” the group, he instead began an official investigation of them. The Intercessors of the Lamb then apparently rebelled against the investigators, which caused the Bishop to subsequently suppress and disbanded them. Not quite the outcome the Intercessors were hoping for.

Father Euteneur apparently had friendly relations with the Intercessors of the Lamb in the past, and thought highly of them. Someone mentioned on-line somewhere that he makes favorable mention of the group in his recent book (perhaps both recent books). It seems that this group was suppressed, and Father Enteneur stepped down, at about the same time (relatively speaking). A coincidence perhaps. Who knows?? Perhaps someone else can shed some light upon this.

I have both of Father Euteneurs recent books, and have read them. However, I have not looked back through them to see if they contain references to The Intercessors of the Lamb.

Either way, Father Euteneur’s book is no longer in print. A few outlets have some copies left (Amazon did the last time I checked, but they noted that the book is out of print, and that they had limited copies left). The commenter mentioned above also stated that HLI does not want to be in the business of promoting exorcism. He also states that if the book were to be republished, a few changes would need to be made. Seems odd that a book was published, only to go out of print within a few months of it's publication.

From reading the book “The Rite”, I also know that priests who are exorcists are considered to be oddballs by a large percentage of their fellow priests - who consider themselves to be too enlightened and sophisticated to believe in such outdated rituals. Much of the Catholic Church has been overrun by Liberals, and they don't think too kindly of Conservative, Orthodox priests, much less exorcists. Hence, if Father Euteneur had been getting more and more into exorcism, perhaps this fact got him into some hot water with someone. Again, who knows??

Either way, here is a link to the article with the relevant comment. Look for the comment by a poster named “Tom” on October 17:

In addition, here is a link to an article about the Intercessors of the Lamb being suppressed by their Bishop:

All of this is "for what it is worth", which may not be much. It is just what I have found poking around on the Web.

46 posted on 12/02/2010 4:01:55 PM PST by Zetman
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To: ichabod1
6) Somebody wanted him to shut up.
I think you're right.
47 posted on 12/02/2010 4:12:09 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Zetman
Yes, I read all that regarding "The Intercessors of the Lamb," and thought that was interesting. Here's that comment from Tom:
Fr. Marx deja vu? Did Fr. Euteneuer leave HLI, or was he "pushed out"? His recent book on exorcism has been "discontinued" From the Spirit Daily article on the suppression of the Intercessors of the Lamb, "TUMULT ERUPTS AS OMAHA BISHOP SHUTS DOWN ORDER AND EX-HEAD ALLEGES 'DRASTIC ACTION'" ( We live in interesting, topsy-turvy times. ... In a development that had no apparent connection [with the suppression of the Intercessors of the Lamb], it was also announced last week that a book by Father Thomas Euteneuer, the former head of the large pro-life group, Human Life International, will be discontinued. The book, Exorcism and the Church Militant, which ironically lauded the Intercessors, was in wide circulation. Weeks before, Father Euteneuer left the organization when he was recalled to his home diocese after a reported controversy. A spokesman for HLI told Spirit Daily that the organization simply decided it was not its role to promote material on exorcism. "There was no problem fatal to the book," said the spokesman, Stephen Phelan, adding however that had it been reprinted, several changes would have been necessary. Limited copies remain available through Ignatius Press. (There's also commentary from the author of this post --Matt Abbott-- under Tom's.) Link

48 posted on 12/02/2010 4:18:57 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Trust me if the book was pulled it came from the top Brass.Had it happen to a friend who had access to many things and approval.It was published but the Cardinal’s Secretary did not like it so it was impossible to promote in the circles he wanted to.That was a lay person.A priest is in obedience so they can do more.My friend found out a week before the book promotion.When they cut you they cut you.
49 posted on 12/02/2010 4:31:01 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: mlizzy

Forget about the book.Most times they are on R&R and everyone lips are sealed.

50 posted on 12/02/2010 4:33:20 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: mlizzy

I mean that the author is taking Father Euteneuer’s decision not to discuss his circumstances publicly as a personal affront to his perceived status, like a teenage girl who missed a hot bit of gossip.

Does anyone have evidence that Father E. has been kidnapped by evil forces and is being restrained, incommunicado, against his will? If so, such person should contact the police. Kidnapping and forcible restraint are illegal. In all other possible circumstances, whether he is being treated justly or unjustly, he has chosen to remain silent or to communicate only with people who are keeping his confidence.

51 posted on 12/02/2010 4:36:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (We know that terrorists are Moslems. I repeat, we know that terrorists are Moslems.)
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To: Zetman
Thank you and here's the hot link of the Spirit Daily article you posted:

52 posted on 12/02/2010 4:42:17 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
Great article.

The Hostile Spiritual Takeover of Our Nation

May 22nd, 2010 by Fr. Thomas Euteneuer

Anyone who has watched national politics closely in the past year and a half has seen a panoply of aggressive political moves that are reported about in hostile terms. There are government “takeovers” of huge industries, public officials “moving against” businesses and individuals, court decisions “striking down” statutes and executive initiatives “attacking” fundamentally sane institutions and plans. Even in times of war, I don’t think we have ever had such violent social and political maneuvering in our public life. The worst aspect of it is that all the rapaciousness is directed inward. If we were laying waste the enemies of the innocent citizens of our society in the same way we are consuming our own healthy institutions, how different our public life would be! The current hostile initiatives are nothing of the sort, however. They are essentially demonic takeovers of sacred institutions by the pagans who hold the reins of power...

...But what did we expect, really? Our nation elected unabashedly pagan representatives who are possessed of a tapestry of unclean ideologies who have an almost religious fervor in advancing their control over greater sectors of our common life and economy. The sad part is that these people who govern us are simply being true to their convictions: before the election, they were not abashed in telling us how radical they are, and now we are reaping the fruits of the demonic agenda of the death and destruction that they have brought with them.

I would despair of this situation had I not met so many decent and God-fearing Americans who do not agree with the mainstreaming of paganism into our culture. I have met the virtuous side of America, and it is to these that I write these words of encouragement: be strong! We must be true to the core Christian principles that made this nation great! Be not afraid of the severe conflicts with the pagan world that we will have to endure in the very near future. We are not alone in this battle. There are many more moral and decent Americans than we realize. It’s just that the good ones are busy about raising families and keeping the basic fabric of our society intact. They are not the hedonists and manipulators that strive obsessively to control public discourse and institutions. They are there in the background and form the true foundation of our society...

53 posted on 12/02/2010 4:56:39 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: mlizzy; Thurifer the Censer
Wow! This guy is awesome!

I never that knew a Catholic priest could talk like that!

We Don't Believe You, Mr. President [Fr. Euteneuer "on fire"]

Human Life International | 6-4-10 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

Dear President Obama,

Every citizen with a modicum of insight into public affairs would say that America is now at a crossroads of decision about what kind of future we want for our nation-and, by extension, for the rest of the world. Whether we like it or not, you are the one who is designated by a vote of the electorate to lead us in that decision-making process. You have asked for the job, and you have proposed yourself as being competent for it. History will judge your Administration on its own merits when your term is complete, but we, the citizens of this country, must judge it for what we see happening before our very eyes. Quite frankly, the picture isn't pretty, and you haven't earned our respect as a leader.

The reason for this, Mr. President, is that we can't believe what you say, and frankly, what you do is utterly unbelievable at times.

The recent Gulf Coast oil spill disaster is indicative of your utter carelessness with the onerous burden of governance. Not only did you dis the families of the 11 workers killed in the disaster, but you also attended fundraisers in CA, a trip to the golf course and several state parties in the White House during the whole time the Governor of Louisiana has been screaming frantically for your attention. How can you expect us to believe that you were actually "in charge" of handling the disaster? In six weeks we have seen hardly a shred of evidence to convince us of that. A leader who says he is in charge of something and then conducts a systematic campaign of blaming, dodging, obfuscating, ignoring and even now prosecuting the others involved - instead of fixing the problem - will hardly go down in the record books as the savior he proposed himself to be when he was elected. You are the Commander-in-Chief who has gone AWOL on a truly national crisis.

On top of all that, you basically blew off a sacred national holiday, Memorial Day, for the sake of a vacation to gangsterland. That slap in the face to our military men and women was not lost on anyone, nor was the narcissistic disregard for American history or anything other than what fits your extreme political agenda. These are appalling traits for the one who holds the highest political office in our land, and only a fawning and dishonest media allows you to get away with this negligence in office.

Speaking of which, what are we to make of your pathetic excuse for the crime of attempting to bribe Congressman Sestak to bow out of the Senate race against Arlen Specter? Do you really think Americans believe the utterly implausible story about offering him a "non-paying" position on some presidential panel? Your Administration's explanation, issued on the afternoon of a holiday weekend, rings hollow, and everyone knows it. "Hollow" is an adequate word to describe your Administration, your political theatre and your rhetoric. Even some of your staunchest ideological supporters admit that it is getting increasingly hard to believe that you mean anything you say.

In the midst of all this domestic incompetence and dishonesty, we have seen no realistic response to North Korean, Iranian or Turkish aggression on the world scene. Foreign politicians know you are a leftist lightweight, and so we can expect more of the same from the rogue nations of the world, further destabilizing the security of our nation and the world. We have, however, seen you and your inept band of political marauders pander to foreign dictators and exploit the Mexican President to abuse us and our national deliberations on serious issues. We have seen your ideological hacks take over whole industries, plunder the private sector, abuse the good will of states and consume sound American institutions as if they were your enemies and with a ferocity that would befit only those who we would call our true national enemies.

Like the Gulf oil spill, your Administration is out of control, and every day is another step closer to disaster. As the oil continues to pollute, kill and damage the external beauty and economy of a whole region, you and your team are doing the same with the trust of the people who built this great country.

We deserve better, Mr. President, and it's time you start doing your job.

Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer
President, Human Life International

54 posted on 12/02/2010 5:12:30 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Yes, he truly is. Did you see this (it happened a few years ago) where he talks with Hannity regarding his Cafeteria Catholicism? Hannity's Gospel
55 posted on 12/02/2010 5:21:07 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: mlizzy
Are you suggesting the possibility that the president is involved somehow in Fr. Euteneuer's dismissal and book halting?
Not necessarily, it could be purely secular politics, someone in the hierarchy deciding that this was entirely too partisan a take on things and teach him that Democrats have friends as well ("I'll get you and your little book too!*cackle,cackle*").

Frankly though, if it wasn't for Mr. Abbot's explicit denial I would say that this has the "smoke of Satan" written all over it.

56 posted on 12/02/2010 5:26:30 PM PST by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: mlizzy

I clicked on the link and watched as much of the video as I could stand to. I could not stand to listen to Sean Hannity disrespecting (trying to cut off and talking over) that Catholic priest the way he did.

I do not care what Sean Hannity’s religious background is - you cannot have the love of God in you and be able to treat a Catholic Priest like that.

I should mention that I was raised a Catholic by my Mother - who is still at 81 a devout Catholic - But that I am not one now.

It is a long story that I think it is best I not go into here.

However, I am interested in other people’s life views and experiences - and I see in Father Tom Euteneuer a brave man who is not afraid to speak the truth.

I hope that Father Euteneuer is alright.

May the Peace of the Lord be with you.

57 posted on 12/02/2010 6:45:39 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: Pyro7480

Distressing. Prayers up for Father E.

58 posted on 12/02/2010 7:21:54 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

FYI, Hannity is a devout Cafeteria Catholic.

59 posted on 12/02/2010 7:52:39 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: mlizzy

“Are you suggesting the possibility that the president is involved somehow in Fr. Euteneuer’s dismissal and book halting?”

Obama? The Chicago gangster, the muslim, the pal of Ayers, the devotee of Rev. Wright, the narcissist, the robber of the American people, the advocate of late-term abortion, the man who has relatives in Kenya that sacrifice chickens to the gods? I have no problem at all believing it. It would take but a few calls from the White House to the corrupt Catholic Hierarchy in this country.

60 posted on 12/02/2010 7:55:17 PM PST by baa39
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