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To: mlizzy
I have been trying to look into this too, via Google and Free Republic. Not much info out there. However, I did find an interesting comment left by someone at the bottom of an article. He states that Father Euteneur was recalled to his Diocese “after a reported controversy”, but no details are given.

Interestingly, the commenter mentioned above also spoke of some sort religious order in the Diocese of Omaha called “The Intercessors of the Lamb”. This order, or group, or whatever, specialized in Deliverance Ministry (praying for - and with - people with demonic problems who don't require a full exorcism), and they were also into the Catholic Charismatic movement.

This group had been around the Diocese for many years. They were at the point where they were requesting that their Bishop grant them full recognition status (or whatever it is called) within their Diocese. They had apparently been on good terms with their previous Bishop(s). However, it seems there was a relatively new Bishop, who had issues with the group (for whatever reason - I do not know if they were valid reasons or not). Hence, rather than “regularizing” the group, he instead began an official investigation of them. The Intercessors of the Lamb then apparently rebelled against the investigators, which caused the Bishop to subsequently suppress and disbanded them. Not quite the outcome the Intercessors were hoping for.

Father Euteneur apparently had friendly relations with the Intercessors of the Lamb in the past, and thought highly of them. Someone mentioned on-line somewhere that he makes favorable mention of the group in his recent book (perhaps both recent books). It seems that this group was suppressed, and Father Enteneur stepped down, at about the same time (relatively speaking). A coincidence perhaps. Who knows?? Perhaps someone else can shed some light upon this.

I have both of Father Euteneurs recent books, and have read them. However, I have not looked back through them to see if they contain references to The Intercessors of the Lamb.

Either way, Father Euteneur’s book is no longer in print. A few outlets have some copies left (Amazon did the last time I checked, but they noted that the book is out of print, and that they had limited copies left). The commenter mentioned above also stated that HLI does not want to be in the business of promoting exorcism. He also states that if the book were to be republished, a few changes would need to be made. Seems odd that a book was published, only to go out of print within a few months of it's publication.

From reading the book “The Rite”, I also know that priests who are exorcists are considered to be oddballs by a large percentage of their fellow priests - who consider themselves to be too enlightened and sophisticated to believe in such outdated rituals. Much of the Catholic Church has been overrun by Liberals, and they don't think too kindly of Conservative, Orthodox priests, much less exorcists. Hence, if Father Euteneur had been getting more and more into exorcism, perhaps this fact got him into some hot water with someone. Again, who knows??

Either way, here is a link to the article with the relevant comment. Look for the comment by a poster named “Tom” on October 17:

http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=38026

In addition, here is a link to an article about the Intercessors of the Lamb being suppressed by their Bishop:

http://www.spiritdaily.com/intercessorsupheaval.htm

All of this is "for what it is worth", which may not be much. It is just what I have found poking around on the Web.

46 posted on 12/02/2010 4:01:55 PM PST by Zetman
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To: Zetman
Yes, I read all that regarding "The Intercessors of the Lamb," and thought that was interesting. Here's that comment from Tom:
Fr. Marx deja vu? Did Fr. Euteneuer leave HLI, or was he "pushed out"? His recent book on exorcism has been "discontinued" From the Spirit Daily article on the suppression of the Intercessors of the Lamb, "TUMULT ERUPTS AS OMAHA BISHOP SHUTS DOWN ORDER AND EX-HEAD ALLEGES 'DRASTIC ACTION'" (http://www.spiritdaily.com/intercessorsupheaval.htm): We live in interesting, topsy-turvy times. ... In a development that had no apparent connection [with the suppression of the Intercessors of the Lamb], it was also announced last week that a book by Father Thomas Euteneuer, the former head of the large pro-life group, Human Life International, will be discontinued. The book, Exorcism and the Church Militant, which ironically lauded the Intercessors, was in wide circulation. Weeks before, Father Euteneuer left the organization when he was recalled to his home diocese after a reported controversy. A spokesman for HLI told Spirit Daily that the organization simply decided it was not its role to promote material on exorcism. "There was no problem fatal to the book," said the spokesman, Stephen Phelan, adding however that had it been reprinted, several changes would have been necessary. Limited copies remain available through Ignatius Press. (There's also commentary from the author of this post --Matt Abbott-- under Tom's.) Link

48 posted on 12/02/2010 4:18:57 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Zetman
Thank you and here's the hot link of the Spirit Daily article you posted:

TUMULT ERUPTS AS OMAHA BISHOP SHUTS DOWN ORDER AND EX-HEAD ALLEGES 'DRASTIC ACTION'
52 posted on 12/02/2010 4:42:17 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Zetman
From reading the book “The Rite”, I also know that priests who are exorcists are considered to be oddballs by a large percentage of their fellow priests - who consider themselves to be too enlightened and sophisticated to believe in such outdated rituals. Much of the Catholic Church has been overrun by Liberals, and they don't think too kindly of Conservative, Orthodox priests, much less exorcists. Hence, if Father Euteneur had been getting more and more into exorcism, perhaps this fact got him into some hot water with someone.

There are lots of FR threads theorizing about the reasons behind Fr. Euteneuer's disappearance, but IMO everyone should start with this one:

"It is impossible to speak of a “Catholic culture” in America any longer. A whole segment of the populace who call themselves “Catholics” do not feel bound by any standard of Catholic orthodoxy or sanity. In fact, it is impossible even to speak of a Catholic culture in most parishes! At a recent “ministry faire” of a large Catholic parish in south Florida, the Respect Life ministry of the parish displayed its pro-life materials next to the table of the “social justice” committee of the same parish. Any commonality between the two ministries was simply in the space they shared. Their worldviews could not have been further apart, but they both call themselves Catholic....

....How can these two groups sit side-by-side in the same pews and display their ministries in the same space at the same Catholic parish? Simply because this contradiction has been tolerated for years by those in charge of our Church. In this election season neither of these two groups received any guidance about voting according to Catholic principles because, as per usual, there was silence from the pulpit on the issue. The absolute failure of our church leaders to define for us what membership in the Church means - and then to enforce it - has led to the degradation of Catholic culture and the loss of meaning for things that are sacred. When Christ and Belial are considered equal partners in the sanctuary, then nothing in the sanctuary means anything any more and no meaningful standard exists to distinguish a true Catholic from a false Catholic."
-- Fr. Thomas Euteneuer, from the thread Catholic Culture and the Election of Barack Obama (Dec 2, 2008)


77 posted on 12/03/2010 8:42:39 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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