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Mormons and Christianity: What has the Mormon Church historically taught about Christianity?
Rethinking Mormonism ^

Posted on 12/02/2010 5:18:31 PM PST by delacoert

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To: svcw

I remember one post that called for the gubberment to repress the LDS. To be fair, this poster was then ridiculed for this view by the usual anti-LDS Freepers.

Freegards


41 posted on 12/02/2010 8:47:30 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Normandy

#3 - And oh yeah, calling others who are NOT Mormon ‘Apostates’ is most definitely BIGOTED. “LDS are taught and encourage NOT to be bigoted” = lie #2. Every single time you come to the door and preach your vile ‘restored full Gospel’ to a mainline church Christian ‘apostate’ you are being bigoted — and you are being trained to be bigots. Stop the missionary work and then you’ll cease to be bigots. As long as the missionary work continues your bigotry continues in spades.


42 posted on 12/02/2010 8:48:19 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: panaxanax; conservativegramma
Nobody abuses this great website more than the gang of anti-Mormon fanatics who disregard EVERY American’s right to “Freedom of Religion”.

Now that is a new one for Mormons and their defenders.

Just as lacking in supporting evidence and logic though.

Nobody on this thread is threatening anybody's "Freedom of Religion".

I think you probably think there is some type of right guaranteed to you to a "Freedom to be critized".

I got news for you, it doesn't exist in the Constitution.
43 posted on 12/02/2010 11:35:37 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; panaxanax; conservativegramma
I think you probably think there is some type of right guaranteed to you to a "Freedom to be critized".

That should be:

I think you probably think there is some type of right guaranteed to you to a "Freedom from being critized".
44 posted on 12/02/2010 11:37:30 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

One critical flaw in your argument is that the statements of a thousand pastors cannot be equated with the statements of men who, at the time they made the statements, were proclaimed (by themselves and others) as being the unique mouthpieces of God, every bit as authoritative in their proclamations as Jesus and the apostles.

And we’re not talking about “political correctness,” either. We’re talking about contradictions between official LDS teachings and the Bible; and often between LDS teachings and your own scriptures.


45 posted on 12/02/2010 11:42:12 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: william clark

Well, I guess we need another thread, get to it. There are thousands waiting with baited breath.


46 posted on 12/03/2010 5:54:26 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Thanks but it still doesn’t answer the question. What from the original post is untrue?


47 posted on 12/03/2010 6:52:54 AM PST by svcw
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To: Ransomed

Ok, so you have a vague recollection of some poster sometime ago saying that the government should suppress lds beliefs and it was the so called anti’s who shot them down. So it was the so called anti’s who actually came to defense of religious freedom. That is good to know.


48 posted on 12/03/2010 6:55:29 AM PST by svcw
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To: wgflyer

Well said.


49 posted on 12/03/2010 6:55:45 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: Paragon Defender

Question to you: why do you say “our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. “ — do you really believe that Jesus came for our salvation? To allow us to enter heaven?


50 posted on 12/03/2010 7:00:52 AM PST by Cronos (Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis (And the word was made flesh, and dwelt amonst us))
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To: svcw

Yes, that is what I recall.

Freegards


51 posted on 12/03/2010 7:14:57 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Paragon Defender

Here is a site that should interest the Mormon believers here:

www.thecityofzion.com


52 posted on 12/03/2010 7:19:58 AM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: svcw

I admit it we have a different doctrine than you do. Well, duh! You got me. The restoration is different than the existing Christian sects. I could figure that out without the thread. I was a Methodist. I can even imagine Catholics have a different doctrine than you do.


53 posted on 12/03/2010 7:47:07 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Ok, yet the question is what from the original post is untrue? All the extra information is nice but doesn’t answer the question.


54 posted on 12/03/2010 8:10:51 AM PST by svcw
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To: svcw

Now, lets see, if the quotations were copied right then they said what they said. I never said they never said that. So, what is your point? I already admitted our doctrine is different than yours. I don’t subscribe to the Trinity as postulated from the 4th century, if you do, then it is fine with me. Protestants are great people and do a lot of good and so are Catholics. I have lots of friends from both groups. I don’t personally have to hate you. We allow all people to worship as they see fit. We bring added truth,some accept some don’t, and we don’t do beheadings if you don’t believe as we do. Have a nice day.


55 posted on 12/03/2010 8:55:04 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; svcw
I suppose you could quote a thousand pastors saying something that is not politically correct by today’s standards and use that against some denomination. This is what was done here. You may have your fun quoting from the 19th century to your heart’s content.

You know lying and deceit really doesn't help your cause any:

“Man can transform himself and he must. Man has in himself the seeds of godhood, which can germinate and grow and develop. As the acorn becomes the oak, the mortal man becomes a god. It is within his power to lift himself by his very bootstraps from the plane on which he finds himself to the plane on which he should be. It may be a long, hard lift with many obstacles, but it is a real possibility” (From Doctrines of the Gospel, Student Manual: Religion 430, 431. c2004 citing President Spencer Kimball, "The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball", p. 28)

I believe a 2004 copyrighted date is NOT the 19th century. (cough, cough, ahem).

As to your assertion in a later post that "we allow all people to worship as they see fit" is another outright lie that does not aid your cause. If that statement were in fact true rather than a deliberate misdirection -- you wouldn't be sending out missionaries now would you? Hint: Missionary trips are trips that seek to change how other people worship and conform them to the LDS. And no you're not beheading anyone, but then again those hateful bigots the anti-mormons aren't beheading anyone either!

56 posted on 12/03/2010 9:59:24 AM PST by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Nice reply, (high five).


57 posted on 12/03/2010 10:05:51 AM PST by svcw
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To: conservativegramma

Where is the compulsion in sending missionaries? You mean you can’t say no? We make people say yes? Really. That is incredible. I don’t remember people saying no????? People say no to me all the time. So, I don’t let people worship how they see fit? What exactly do I do to prevent them going on their way after they say no? My Baptist friends want me to join them and they give me tracts and I say no. Are they somehow sinning by trying to impart their version of truth to me? I already admitted if the quotes were properly documented that the men said them and so? We have doctrinal differences. Duh. What else is new? You should really begin developing tomorrow’s quotations as there are thousands waiting on these Mormon threads.


58 posted on 12/03/2010 1:03:20 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Oh please. It is extremely annoying to find 2 white shirted guys in the driveway on bicycles telling you how apostate you are.

But hey if you don’t have a problem with 2 guys at your doorstep trying to convert you I’ll send some guys over to your place tomorrow.

P.S. That’s all anti-mormons are doing — trying to impart truth to you — that doesn’t make us ‘bigoted’ or ‘hateful’. Get it? If we were truly hateful we’d not tell you anything and just let you go to Hell laughing at you as you went. The fact that we DO try and confront your errors is showing our love to you. Be careful or I’ll think you’ve been reading too much Alinsky. You know, trying to suppress any and all opposition, and when that don’t work start targeting them with words like ‘bigot’ and such.


59 posted on 12/03/2010 1:27:30 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

I don’t remember (I am getting old) calling you bigoted and hateful. I really do like most of my Protestant and Catholic friends. And I have heard it from my Protestant friends that I am deceived. Is what your saying about us somehow new? I think I have heard it all before. You did call me a liar though. I hope that was invigorating for you. Oh, I guess I fit the definition of liar because I did not notice some of the quotes were from the 20th century. Bad me.


60 posted on 12/03/2010 1:49:43 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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