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Mormons and Christianity: What has the Mormon Church historically taught about Christianity?
Rethinking Mormonism ^

Posted on 12/02/2010 5:18:31 PM PST by delacoert

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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

You did not personally call me a bigot, that is correct (at least on this thread). My comments to that affect are general, as in relation to all Mormons who seem to hurl out the ‘bigot’ insult to those who critique Mormonism as often as Obamanites hurl the ‘racist’ charge to those who critique Obama. Its really getting comical.

Personally I think you should listen to your friends. Someday you’ll wish you had but by then it’ll be too late. And yes I called you a liar, because I believe you demonstrated that you are one. As I correctly pointed out what you believe wasn’t just a 19th century phenomenon as you would like us non-mormons to believe - pretty much all of those strange doctrines taught in the 19th c. are in fact still taught today, including the ‘you can be gods’ part. So to make a protest about ‘political correctness’ and ‘views changing’ and ‘19th century quotes’ blah blah is pretty much dishonest, and its definitely disingenuous.

And your comments to ‘we allow people to worship as they see fit’ all at the same time sending out the missionaries does not do that. Yeah, we can say no, but you can stay home can’t you? But you don’t. So....again disingenuous at best. If you truly allowed people to worship as they see fit you would not be trying to convert them.....case closed.

Its this stuff that angers me the most about Mormons. The deliberate deceit, especially when trying to win over new converts. Its deplorable and pathetic. You have a different doctrine, oh yeah, not only different but false. That’s fine if you want to follow after a false prophet thats your business. But when seeking to convert someone at least tell them the truth - stop hiding the “we can be gods” doctrines, or “Jesus is a brother to Lucifer” doctrines, and so on. Be up front about it all instead of trying to hide it under a rug. That’s what I object to - THE DECEIT. Jesus never operated through lying. But Satan does. That should be a big ole red flag clue that something in the LDS isn’t right.


61 posted on 12/03/2010 2:42:24 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma

Have a really nice day. You got all that off your chest. You should feel better now.


62 posted on 12/03/2010 2:59:43 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Paragon Defender
I am very interested in your response to the following. You ignored my prior post, so here it is again.

The basic premise of Mormonism cannot be true. Mormon’s believe that the Church Christ founded somehow needed a restoration. Unfortunately, this cannot be true, unless Christ is a liar. The LDS claims that God chose Joseph Smith to reestablish the Church of Jesus Christ after it had disappeared some 1,700 years earlier following the death of the first apostles.

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20

Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.

So Christ says His Church will not be destroyed or fall away from him, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church to always teach the Truth, and He will always be with us. So which Church do you think it is?

The only reason for a ‘restoration’ is that Christ lied.

63 posted on 12/03/2010 7:36:18 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive; Paragon Defender
I am very interested in your response to the following. You ignored my prior post, so here it is again

Good luck with that FoF. PD can only post his canned message. He has displayed an innate inability to coherently present and defend mormon doctrine, teachings and history. At best you'll get a "go to those links" answer. But thats ok Fof - it is hard for them to defend their doctrines anyway.

64 posted on 12/03/2010 7:41:44 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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