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Mary - the Immaculate Ark of the New Covenant [Catholic Caucus]
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Posted on 12/05/2010 11:00:22 PM PST by Salvation

Mary - the Immaculate Ark of the New Covenant

Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of the purest gold for God's Word. Mary is the ark of the New Covenant and is the purest vessel for the Word of God made flesh.

2 Sam. 6:7 - the Ark is so holy and pure that when Uzzah touched it, the Lord slew him. This shows us that the Ark is undefiled. Mary the Ark of the New Covenant is even more immaculate and undefiled, spared by God from original sin so that she could bear His eternal Word in her womb.

1 Chron. 13:9-10 - this is another account of Uzzah and the Ark. For God to dwell within Mary the Ark, Mary had to be conceived without sin. For Protestants to argue otherwise would be to say that God would let the finger of Satan touch His Son made flesh. This is incomprehensible.

1 Chron. 15 and 16 - these verses show the awesome reverence the Jews had for the Ark - veneration, vestments, songs, harps, lyres, cymbals, trumpets.

Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.

Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.

Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.

Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.

Rev 11:19 - at this point in history, the Ark of the Old Covenant was not seen for six centuries (see 2 Macc. 2:7), and now it is finally seen in heaven. The Jewish people would have been absolutely amazed at this. However, John immediately passes over this fact and describes the "woman" clothed with the sun in Rev. 12:1. John is emphasizing that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant and who, like the Old ark, is now worthy of veneration and praise. Also remember that Rev. 11:19 and Rev. 12:1 are tied together because there was no chapter and verse at the time these texts were written.

Rev 12:1 - the "woman" that John is describing is Mary, the Ark of the New Covenant, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. Just as the moon reflects the light of the sun, so Mary, with the moon under her feet, reflects the glory of the Sun of Justice, Jesus Christ.

Rev. 12:17 - this verse tells us that Mary's offspring are those who keep God's commandments and bear testimony to Jesus. This demonstrates, as Catholics have always believed, that Mary is the Mother of all Christians.

Rev. 12:2 -  Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. It contains varied symbolism and multiple meanings of the woman (Mary, the Church and Israel). The birth pangs describe both the birth of the Church and Mary's offspring being formed in Christ. Mary had no birth pangs in delivering her only Son Jesus.

Isaiah 66:7 - for example, we see Isaiah prophesying that before she (Mary) was in labor she gave birth; before her pain came upon her she was delivered of a son (Jesus). This is a Marian prophecy of the virgin birth of Jesus Christ.

Gal 4:19 - Paul also describes his pain as birth pangs in forming the disciples in Christ. Birth pangs describe formation in Christ.

Rom. 8:22 - also, Paul says the whole creation has been groaning in travail before the coming of Christ. We are all undergoing birth pangs because we are being reborn into Jesus Christ.

Jer. 13:21 - Jeremiah describes the birth pangs of Israel, like a woman in travail. Birth pangs are usually used metaphorically in the Scriptures.

Hos. 13:12-13 - Ephraim is also described as travailing in childbirth for his sins. Again, birth pangs are used metaphorically.

Micah 4:9-10 - Micah also describes Jerusalem as being seized by birth pangs like a woman in travail.

Rev. 12:13-16 - in these verses, we see that the devil still seeks to destroy the woman even after the Savior is born. This proves Mary is a danger to satan, even after the birth of Christ. This is because God has given her the power to intercede for us, and we should invoke her assistance in our spiritual lives



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1 posted on 12/05/2010 11:00:28 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Oh dude, I just got off the other Mary thread.

I don’t think I can hack another one!!

Good night and God bless.


2 posted on 12/05/2010 11:01:43 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Lt. Drebin: Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through.)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...

Immaculate Conception Ping!


3 posted on 12/05/2010 11:02:24 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Question:

Exodus 25:11-21 - the ark of the Old Covenant was made of the purest gold for God’s Word. Mary is the ark of the New Covenant and is the purest vessel for the Word of God made flesh.

I have it as
Exodus 25:11-21 - And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.

Confused why Mary would be talked about Mary in Exodus at all.

Help?


4 posted on 12/05/2010 11:08:36 PM PST by dila813
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To: Salvation

How lovely! Thank you, FRiend.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 11:08:56 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: dila813

It’s prophecy. By the way, you may not have noticed, but this is a Catholic Caucus thread. Thank you for your question, but please allow me to ask, are you Catholic?


6 posted on 12/05/2010 11:10:49 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Yes, I am catholic

Not used to someone quoting a passage and inserting something else there.


7 posted on 12/05/2010 11:23:42 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

Are you a Catholic? This is a Catholic Caucus thread.

The quote from Exodus sets the stage for comparing the Ark of the [Old Testament] Covenant with the Ark of the New Covenant.


8 posted on 12/05/2010 11:28:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, YES I AM CATHOLIC, I am on your freaking ping list.

WAKE UP


9 posted on 12/05/2010 11:32:15 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

Sorry, FRiend. Please forgive me.


10 posted on 12/05/2010 11:36:21 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Salvation

I found the answer. That was all I was looking for.

The quotes are from the Spiritual interpretations of scripture and not the literal quotes.

Used to seeing this talked about with some preamble of where this is coming from.


11 posted on 12/05/2010 11:52:27 PM PST by dila813
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To: Judith Anne

Many Catholics have questions. The only stupid question is the one that isn’t asked.

And yes, I’m Catholic too.


14 posted on 12/06/2010 1:18:10 AM PST by Just Lori
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To: Bibman

Jesus didn’t pray to Mary. Of course not. She was still alive.


15 posted on 12/06/2010 1:19:49 AM PST by Just Lori
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To: kelly4c

Do you think just ANY woman would be chosen to be the mother of God? She was born without original sin. An angel came to her (this IS in the bible) and told her she would conceive a son by the Holy Spirit.

She said yes, but can you imagine how scary that was for her? It would be scary enough now, but she could have been stoned to death if Joseph walked away from her.

By the way, we don’t make stuff up. Many many miracles have been attributed to the Blessed Mother.


16 posted on 12/06/2010 1:28:20 AM PST by Just Lori
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To: kelly4c; Bibman

This is a Catholic caucus thread — I’m guessing neither of you is Catholic . . .


18 posted on 12/06/2010 2:25:14 AM PST by maryz
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Hi kelly4c,
please remember, this is a Catholic caucus. Likewise, we, too, believe everything that the Bible says. Since the Bible is a Catholic gift to the world, it cannot be otherwise. But we do not agree with your personal, fallible interpretation. Respectfully, I think you said your piece well, and I hope you have a wonderful Monday. Salvation, it’s always nice to read a post from Scripture Catholic, great site.


19 posted on 12/06/2010 2:39:28 AM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, this is a great video and really explains a lot about the Blessed Mother.

I have posted it here and there but those threads weren’t a Catholic Caucus so I don’t think any one watched.

Enjoy, here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdYeYy3NQA

I first saw this at a great website:

http://www.conversiondiary.com/

Jennifer was an atheist and is now a Catholic.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 4:39:35 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore
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